see, what we have elected for ourselves. we wll have to take these matter to the public to let them know about the real ground realities. i urge the ciizens of india to form a group, let them know the realities and then pressurise the government to act. imagine, if upa was there when the pakis were occupying the kargil !!!no kargil war and the pakis would have occupied kargil and this upa would have held the secretary level talks with pakis only. we need nda urgently and thats for sure.they are not the best, but at least they would have acted on this to keep the indians safe. sunil