Forget it, this is Indian territory. Either be with India or Pakistan. There's no independence or anything for illegal Muslim occupiers of the land belonging to the true Kashmiri natives - the Hindu Kashmiri pandits. Yes, the people of Kashmir - the Pandits want independence from the illegal occupiers of their land - the Muslims in the valley. And Hindus will continue to shove it down till all the traitorous elements and kicked out. Kashmir is Indian territory. Hope the converted barbarians can understand that.