JGN, I have seen your enough posts to know weather you hate muslims or not...given a chance you will ready to cause a MUSLIM HOLOCAUST...such is the hatred in your commnents. I have talked about second verse with detail example...what else you need? about the verse which you, people like you commonly bring is ""go and kill the non-beleivers where ever they are found" to fuel their propagenda has been many times answered by me, many other muslims in this post and noted muslims scholars. You are deliberately omting the verses before and after this verse.If You are pretending to be aslept, no one can awake you. I don't know much about Shia and their beliefs so I won't comment about it like you who don't know anything about Islam in real and just red some "revisionims" material and started chattering about it. By the way..can you tell me in recent times where shia were found of killing " non beleivers whereever they find them?? I clearly told the two verses you first mentioned and their context..what else do you want? and @ "I am open to discuss the matter in an unbiased manner. I have no preconceived notions." give this crap to somone is new to reading your post..the reason you post your quesiton and comments is not for discussing or geting your knowledge corrected...you only post them to express you deep hatred against Islam and creat same feeling amongst the readers.