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DESPERATE 85% of people in India are desperate working slaves in an informal economy and their lives oscillate between fear and frustration.
EVEN MORE DESPERATE The remaining are always in search of collusion mostly in the form of caste to enhance their wealth.
SOLUTION A credible minimum income guaranteed system for every one whether they work or not will bring in dignity instead of desperation for the working poor and inheritance taxes will stimulate compassion instead of collusion.
Such system will prevent all socioeconomic issues in India viz farmer suicides, dowry deaths, child labor, fear, frustration, corruption, bribery, prostitution, terrorism etc.
In Portugal, Brazil, USA, Belgium, UK etc this system is implemented.
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We were always a superpower .We messed up only in the last 300 years by vrushali gadekar on Feb 15, 2007 10:08 AM | Hide replies
If you look into our glorius history you will understand that we messed up only in the last 300 years but can easily catch up if we introduce some innovation rather than just doing backoffice work.
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RE:We were always a superpower .We messed up only in the last 300 years by hello on Feb 15, 2007 10:24 AM Yes. The lesson in history books ringing in my mind: "Colombus discovered America by thinking super power India".
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Our next goal!!! by hello on Feb 15, 2007 09:47 AM | Hide replies
by sunny chakraborti on Feb 15, 2007 09:15 AM I agree! Please don't be overconfident-Chinese does exactly the opposite. They complete the job, then rest of the world realizes. China is quickly catching up. I recently attended a BPO conference in New York, where I saw how China is maturing fast and inviting attention; additionally Latin America is working so hard to catch up. We cannot relax. Once the trust and hype goes, down will go all the outsourcing jobs from India. Our biggest bottleneck is infrastructure-including Airports, roads, hotels, and communication to name a few. India needs to quickly expand outside the major cities, by building newer cities and airports, since it takes years to improve inside an existing city. China is building new townships, exclusively for software firms. Please focus on this.
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RE:Our next goal!!! by suresha ramachandra on Feb 15, 2007 12:59 PM Heloo, you are in fool's paradise, you do not need to become superpower to be happy in your life. look at the countries Denmakr, sweeden, Australia or newzealand. Are they not happy? look at japan, they are mad, but no other go for them, who wants work for 14hrs per day and say my economy is growing at 10%? you need to have food, shelter, water and good law and order in the society. that is what required not this fancy figures. if you ask any bangalorean , he says he was much more happy 15yrs back than now, now it is more stressful life in bangalore. people do not have time to see friends, spend time with family or cannot walk on streets. look at schools, there are no playgrounds(all bought by real estate developers)
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Confer and capture... by punit on Feb 15, 2007 09:25 AM | Hide replies
I stoutly believe in collective brotherhood. Why ought to we judge against ourselves with other? If you take any system there always exist both advantages and disadvantages. If urbanized countries have the gift of having great infrastructures, bullish market and freedom about everything in life, they lack in human touches. People don%u2019t care for others. The ethics are different from ours. May be it looks right to them but not to us? There is no room to speak frankly about one%u2019s personal matters. Consequently, people are less %u2018willing-to-help%u2019 attitude in developed world than ours. For example, a teenager of a so-called developed country is definitely different than a teenager of our own, and you know who is better. The entire above pros are cons to us and vice versa%u2026 So one and all have their own positive aspect so as negative. It doesn%u2019t count much if we contest on what we lack or they lack. It definitely counts if we analyze convert our weakness to strength by learning from them and help them to convert their weakness too, so as to achieve %u2018too good%u2019 globe.
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Mungeri Lal Ke Haseen Sapne by ravdeepak cheema on Feb 15, 2007 09:20 AM | Hide replies
Its alright that is making progress, but only Metropolitan cities is growing and engine of this growth. prices of real estate rise hapahardly in india.now it is nearly impossible for common person/employee to build a house.knowledge base industry can be easily shifted to ur competitor without much hiccups. so dnt praise urself like BJP did in last election(shining India). take care
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The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by ghanshyam b dave on Feb 15, 2007 08:13 AM | Hide replies
Just dont get carried away by such publicity,I dont think it is true. We have to do lot of improvement in health, infrastructure, road, transportations, public transports and lot and lot. First and formost political interference and governing system, corruptions, educations, social securities, upliftment of female and never ending political sinario. It is not that this not possible!yes if we KILL THE POLITICAL SYSTEM AND PUBLICILY HANG CORRUPT POLITICIANS. ARE YOU READY FOR THIS REVOLUTION? IF YES THIGS WILL BE BETTER SOON!!!
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RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by hello on Feb 15, 2007 08:41 AM Yes. Rightly said. Even if we eliminate, they will still publish this figure or something else. We cannot control others. Only thing is we improve ourselves. By the way, there is a honey for your ear, our President said on Republic day that 24% poverty was eliminated. Is in it great!!!. Did you find in any publications?
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RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by sunny chakraborti on Feb 15, 2007 09:15 AM I agree! Please don't be overconfident-Chinese does exactly the opposite. They complete the job, then rest of the world realizes. China is quickly catching up. I recently attended a BPO conference in New York, where I saw how China is maturing fast and inviting attention; additionally Latin America is working so hard to catch up. We cannot relax. Once the trust and hype goes, down will go all the outsourcing jobs from India. Our biggest bottleneck is infrastructure-including Airports, roads, hotels, and communication to name a few. India needs to quickly expand outside the major cities, by building newer cities and airports, since it takes years to improve inside an existing city. China is building new townships, exclusively for software firms. Please focus on this.
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RE:RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by hello on Feb 15, 2007 09:31 AM Please go to Metha Patkar page in another link in rediff & please copy & paste this message. Very good. I appreciate. Also, very good for the Page about the story of an India who disowned by India. I appreciate.
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RE:RE:RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by hello on Feb 15, 2007 09:43 AM I talked a lot in various postings & I am almost out of points. Mr. Sunny Chakraborti, Shall I copy & post your message in two more pages???
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India -- capable but..... by Confused on Feb 15, 2007 07:29 AM | Hide replies
By the end of one week in USA i could understand that India has everything, like natural resources, large manpower, intelegence, hard working nature, can undergo hardship, Family and community feelings, technological progress ----All this is waste because of a small element we are badly missing that is Sincerity. Yes Corruption is killing our country -We are not only dishonest to others but we are even dihonest to our selves. We want something else to do we do some thing else and we want to show something else. No honesty anywhere btw Not only the people who do corruption are dishonest but the people who pay bribe are more responsible
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RE:India -- capable but..... by Confused on Feb 15, 2007 07:30 AM ... few more thigs too we have ... Beautiful tourist places ... historical places... cultural heritage...and rich literature.
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RE:RE:India -- capable but..... by hello on Feb 15, 2007 07:53 AM I really like USA & its technological advancements, the people behavior & their understanding of world & their eagerness to learn about the world. But you are right, when compare to our motherland, of course, those relationships, feelings, talking w/ mother, relative with phone etc. we cannot compare.
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Check this by navdeep bhatia on Feb 15, 2007 06:58 AM | Hide replies
RE:Check this by hello on Feb 15, 2007 07:58 AM This is the third time I am seeing this message. That's what I said. Those were there even before I born & my father born. What is the new thing is our growth rate is 9% now.
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India is a Super Power. I told one of the World Power before, now I changed after reading your comments. by hello on Feb 15, 2007 05:57 AM | Hide replies
India is a Super Power. I told World Power before, now I changed after reading your comments. Any objections any body???
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RE:India is a Super Power. I told one of the World Power before, now I changed after reading your comments. by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:09 AM Also one more thing, don't give up this under any circumstances. A country may face down-turn or up-turn or other turns. Keep this mantra always, that is what we have to do. What poverty??? What illitracy??? What politicians??? Everything was there a long ago, when the growth rate was 4%,5%,6%,7%,8%,9% etc. Didn't we grow even with all these!!! Didn't we grow even when sactions were imposed on us. Didn't we got independence, with unity, tell me what was the illitracy, what was the poverty. Just see forward & see the positive points!!!
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PLEASEREAD by thepolice stewart on Feb 15, 2007 05:27 AM | Hide replies
WELL SAID THAT ABSOLUTELY TRUE,WE ARE IMPROVING BUT NOT YET THERE,SO THERE IS NO ROOM FOR COMPLACENCY.MY ADVICE TO THOSE PESSIMIST PEOPLE OUT HERE:VISIT OTHER COUNTRIES TO FIND HOW THEY ARE.THEIR SOULS ARE NOT CLEAN(IAM GENERALIZING) HOW SELFISH PEOPLE ARE IN OTHER COUNTRIES.I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN A DIFF COUNTRY FOR 7 YRS AND IAM LEAVING TO INDIA NEXT MONTH TO HELP CHANGE MY NATION AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE GOOD BUT WE ARE LAGGING AND IN THE PROCESS WILL GROW MYSELF AND MY COUNTRY GROW I WISH EVERONE COULD STAY IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY FOR A YEAR TO UNDERSTAND HOW SELFISH PEOPLE ARE,IF YOU LIVE FOR A MONTH OR JUST GO FOR A VISIT U WILL ONLY SEE GREEN. ASK ME ABOUT INDIA AND INDIANS,I HAVE STUDIED IN THE NORTH,SOUTH,WEST,EAST,CENTRAL INDIA AND HAVE WORKED AND STAYED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD FOR 7 YEARS AND I REALIZED HOW GOOD WE ARE AS A NATION (INDIANS SELDOM KNOW),AND I KNEW EVEN BEFORE VISITING AND STATING IN THESE PLACES,ITS JUST THAT I HAVE ENOUGH PROOF. NO,IAM NOT 60 YRS OLD,IAM 27 AND I WILL INSPIRE A FEW. WISH ME LUCK GUYS,I KNOW I WILL FACE MANY CHALLENGES BUT I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME,WICH ME LUCK!
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RE:PLEASEREAD by mehul ved on Feb 15, 2007 05:32 AM You the man!!!...Wish you all the very best!!!...Join you soon!!
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by patriot on Feb 15, 2007 06:56 AM why not now?
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RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 05:49 AM Rightly said. Just tell me when a poor met an accident in India, what will happen. They take to hospital emergency and get TREATED. But in developed country, they do the same & you have to pay for your life if you don't have insurance. Who cares poor more? We are treating poor very good. Giving farmers subsidy etc. So, don't reply with saying like we are giving more to the farmers & make them lazy.
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by Vijay Purbhe on Feb 15, 2007 06:04 AM In India, if you have an accident, people will either ignore it or not take the person to hospital. Unlike India, where hosiptals wont take you in unless the police FIR is filed for some accident or assault, developed countries treat them much better (without insurance and without money if you dont know). Stop blabbering if you dont know the truth about the developed countries and how they operate, IDIOTS.
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:13 AM Take it cool!!! Please go w/o visitors insurance to a developed country, you know
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RE:RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by patriot on Feb 15, 2007 06:57 AM there are many countries where you dont need insurance and get treated better than in india. remember me???? lol
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by srinu reddy on Feb 15, 2007 08:00 AM we are giving more to farmers(good joke).. they why are farmers committing suicide. 9% growth rate for 2 years and you are thinking India superpower.grow up guys.what about people who are doing normal jobs(other than it). what about infrastructure.and basic needs like pure drinking water,food and electricity.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by Vijay Purbhe on Feb 15, 2007 06:05 AM Mr. whoever, I have been staying in the developed country for past 5 years and I dont see any truth in the statements that you have made here. You dont have to get emotional about these issue. You will find cons the moment you land in any Indian airport, what the hell are you talking about?
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:15 AM If that is the case, we have to train the staffs & air hostess with a developed country training school on how to smile on the face.
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:41 AM I am not a curser of developed country, it is far far better. Great freedom, Human Rights! Cleaniness etc are very good. The "Adopt a Highway" concept is a very good one. A lot of good things. But when telling developed country example to undermine India, I little talked aganist developed country, I like their way of life to some extent.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by solomon george on Feb 15, 2007 06:41 AM i live in the US and work in the health sector.as per US law, no person can be turned away from receiving emergency care irrespective of his/her ability to pay.though the stay may be billed,it does not mean that one HAS to pay up especially if disabled or unemployed.and if u r a visitor,it makes sense to take travel insurance,as no tax payer wud like to pay up for someone who has not given his share of taxes.and it dos'nt cost much to get one.one has to learn to always live within ones budget. there r low income families that like to get a luxury car and end up allocating 25-30% of the income on it. why not use that for getting a health insurance instead.whereas in india, someone may take u to a hospital but the surgeon may not operate until payed under the table.(esp in govt hosp). in the private hosp-forget it!
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:45 AM That is what I said before you tell. I am not a curser of developed country, it is far far better. Great freedom, Human Rights! Cleaniness etc are very good. The "Adopt a Highway" concept is a very good one. A lot of good things. But when telling developed country example to undermine India, I little talked aganist developed country, I like their way of life to some extent.
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:56 AM Sorry. I love USA, I love developed country. I love UK. I love Japan. I love Germany, Europe. I love other countries. I am searching for the guy who diverted attention to developed country.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by andre joseph on Feb 15, 2007 08:19 AM Please, I'm not being pessimistic or indulging in India bashing. I am an ordinary middle class Indian who lived a honest life for 42 years in India. I now live in the USA and will be here for a few years. I bought a plot of land with my hard earned money in Bangalore. I got it checked thoroughly by a lawyer and got all the documents in my name. I regularly paid taxes for this property for nine long years and built a compound wall around it. One fine morning.........a bunch of thugs landed up and demolished my compound wall. I ran to the police station as they were destroying my wall and they merely told me it was a "civil issue" and wouldn't interfere. I went to the court and after two long years and a hundred visits won the case against them. Now I hear another goonda who has a local minister's support is again causing trouble. Buddy, there are selfish and bad people everywhere and America or any other western nation is no exception. Incidentally at least the police will come to my rescue in another nation. In India the police supports the mighty, not an innocent like me. If you have money and muscle power, wrong can be right in India at every level. I have experienced this and in no small measure. I am happy to know that at least a few young men like you are going back to India in the hope of improving our lot. I hope and pray you don't return disillusioned. When we say India is improving, many of us avoid saying the number of farmers who committed suicide crossed the thousand mark in one state alone in the same breath. Yes, urban India is improving and at electric speed. I hope this development also percolates to the guy who grows tomatoes in the hope of feeding his family three square meals a day, and with a heavy heart has to dump it on the highway coz there are no takers for his toil. I have always felt we are a gifted country, but somehow we fail to take advantage of our capabilities. We have the best form of Government in the civilized world which is called Democracy, but conveniently forget the fact Democracy minus discipline is the worst form of Government. Unless we put our political house in order, we certainly have no hope with all this development. America has turned us into their steno pool, but I wonder if this is our best option. I hope it is. Good luck Buddy! I wish you the very best. I
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by thepolice stewart on Feb 15, 2007 10:11 AM iam deeply moved,farmers and children are at the top of my list.thanks for your concern. iam ready to sacrifice in this process,at the end of my life even if i turned out to be a failure,i will die happy thinking "i tried".
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by andre joseph on Feb 15, 2007 11:39 AM good to know you are so very committed to helping our country. i plan to come back to india in the year 2011 and i would like to at least help out with such an endeavour. if you will be considering such participation, my e-mail id is major.jacob@gmail.com
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RE:PLEASEREAD by ghanshyam dave on Feb 15, 2007 08:53 AM Thanks my friend,i have, like you travelled and lived out of India many years, rightly said by you but remember the gap between rich and poor is very wide in India or any other asian countries, in western world what we see basic requirements is luxury in India, like many things, i but, still agree with you to some extent that there is corrupton in western world but common people dont have to suffer bcz of that, i am like any other Indian have fire and desire to serve for the Nation but not ready to get get trapped in the hands of corrupt politicians. WHAT WE NEED IS POLITICAL REVOLUTION AND EQUAL LAWS FOR ALL.IN INDIA LAWS ARE FOR COMMON PEOPLE, SPECIAL PERSON GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT(THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE IS SANJAY DUTT, Lalu yadav and his company, jayalalita and many more LALUS AND LALEES).(NEWS:POLICE COMMISSIONER IN WISCONSIN STATE OF U.S.A FINED HIMSELF FOR ACCIDENTLY OVERTAKING SCHOOL BUS) PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU FIND SUCH HONEST PEOPLE IN INDIA I WILL PAY FOR YOUR AIR TICKET AND READY TO PAY FOR TWO MORE REVOLUTIONERS WHO WANT TO COME BACK TO INDIA.
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by thepolice stewart on Feb 15, 2007 10:14 AM dear ghanshyam ji, thanks for your concern,there are many people with great intentions it is just that we need a collective action taken. iam sure there will be at least a million people who could take action out of a billion people. dont worry,iam froma fairly renowed family from south,as i said iam ready to sacrifice myself in this process,at the end of my life even if i turned out to be a failure,i will die happy thinking "i tried".
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by ANIL DHYANI on Feb 15, 2007 10:15 AM India Needs, heavy revolutions against corrupt systems,politicians,rishwat khori. We and new generation could only do this. We also need to remove selfishness from ourselves. We also use to give rishwat when it needs, as our system demands. Loot maar is heavy. We need a positive wave like in China to improve our structure. It needs step by step renovation and with result orientation. It needs to clean up those who comes in middle of these projects. Since, illiteracy is still there, differece of poverty with rich still heavey in many areas. So, it could take time. We should remove monopolistic competition, builders who are capturing the land of agricultures in many areas. If we check it with our population, we find that in future, if builders will cover our agriculture land with same speed, than it will be difficult for ourselves to live here. Farmers are giving up, commiting suiside. So, if we compare ourselves with other world, India needs a big positive mantra,attitude. For which we have to come in front and raise same things to our politicians.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by sriram muthukrishnan on Feb 15, 2007 12:47 PM I really appericiate you... Good luck man!!! Go ahead with confidence.....
I will be joining you soon....
India by m sasikala on Feb 15, 2007 02:08 PM | Hide replies
DESPERATE 85% of people in India are desperate working slaves in an informal economy and their lives oscillate between fear and frustration.
EVEN MORE DESPERATE The remaining are always in search of collusion mostly in the form of caste to enhance their wealth.
SOLUTION A credible minimum income guaranteed system for every one whether they work or not will bring in dignity instead of desperation for the working poor and inheritance taxes will stimulate compassion instead of collusion.
Such system will prevent all socioeconomic issues in India viz farmer suicides, dowry deaths, child labor, fear, frustration, corruption, bribery, prostitution, terrorism etc.
In Portugal, Brazil, USA, Belgium, UK etc this system is implemented.
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We were always a superpower .We messed up only in the last 300 years by vrushali gadekar on Feb 15, 2007 10:08 AM | Hide replies
If you look into our glorius history you will understand that we messed up only in the last 300 years but can easily catch up if we introduce some innovation rather than just doing backoffice work.
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RE:We were always a superpower .We messed up only in the last 300 years by hello on Feb 15, 2007 10:24 AM Yes. The lesson in history books ringing in my mind: "Colombus discovered America by thinking super power India".
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Our next goal!!! by hello on Feb 15, 2007 09:47 AM | Hide replies
by sunny chakraborti on Feb 15, 2007 09:15 AM I agree! Please don't be overconfident-Chinese does exactly the opposite. They complete the job, then rest of the world realizes. China is quickly catching up. I recently attended a BPO conference in New York, where I saw how China is maturing fast and inviting attention; additionally Latin America is working so hard to catch up. We cannot relax. Once the trust and hype goes, down will go all the outsourcing jobs from India. Our biggest bottleneck is infrastructure-including Airports, roads, hotels, and communication to name a few. India needs to quickly expand outside the major cities, by building newer cities and airports, since it takes years to improve inside an existing city. China is building new townships, exclusively for software firms. Please focus on this.
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RE:Our next goal!!! by suresha ramachandra on Feb 15, 2007 12:59 PM Heloo, you are in fool's paradise, you do not need to become superpower to be happy in your life. look at the countries Denmakr, sweeden, Australia or newzealand. Are they not happy? look at japan, they are mad, but no other go for them, who wants work for 14hrs per day and say my economy is growing at 10%? you need to have food, shelter, water and good law and order in the society. that is what required not this fancy figures. if you ask any bangalorean , he says he was much more happy 15yrs back than now, now it is more stressful life in bangalore. people do not have time to see friends, spend time with family or cannot walk on streets. look at schools, there are no playgrounds(all bought by real estate developers)
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Confer and capture... by punit on Feb 15, 2007 09:25 AM | Hide replies
I stoutly believe in collective brotherhood. Why ought to we judge against ourselves with other? If you take any system there always exist both advantages and disadvantages. If urbanized countries have the gift of having great infrastructures, bullish market and freedom about everything in life, they lack in human touches. People don%u2019t care for others. The ethics are different from ours. May be it looks right to them but not to us? There is no room to speak frankly about one%u2019s personal matters. Consequently, people are less %u2018willing-to-help%u2019 attitude in developed world than ours. For example, a teenager of a so-called developed country is definitely different than a teenager of our own, and you know who is better. The entire above pros are cons to us and vice versa%u2026 So one and all have their own positive aspect so as negative. It doesn%u2019t count much if we contest on what we lack or they lack. It definitely counts if we analyze convert our weakness to strength by learning from them and help them to convert their weakness too, so as to achieve %u2018too good%u2019 globe.
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Mungeri Lal Ke Haseen Sapne by ravdeepak cheema on Feb 15, 2007 09:20 AM | Hide replies
Its alright that is making progress, but only Metropolitan cities is growing and engine of this growth. prices of real estate rise hapahardly in india.now it is nearly impossible for common person/employee to build a house.knowledge base industry can be easily shifted to ur competitor without much hiccups. so dnt praise urself like BJP did in last election(shining India). take care
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The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by ghanshyam b dave on Feb 15, 2007 08:13 AM | Hide replies
Just dont get carried away by such publicity,I dont think it is true. We have to do lot of improvement in health, infrastructure, road, transportations, public transports and lot and lot. First and formost political interference and governing system, corruptions, educations, social securities, upliftment of female and never ending political sinario. It is not that this not possible!yes if we KILL THE POLITICAL SYSTEM AND PUBLICILY HANG CORRUPT POLITICIANS. ARE YOU READY FOR THIS REVOLUTION? IF YES THIGS WILL BE BETTER SOON!!!
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RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by hello on Feb 15, 2007 08:41 AM Yes. Rightly said. Even if we eliminate, they will still publish this figure or something else. We cannot control others. Only thing is we improve ourselves. By the way, there is a honey for your ear, our President said on Republic day that 24% poverty was eliminated. Is in it great!!!. Did you find in any publications?
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RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by sunny chakraborti on Feb 15, 2007 09:15 AM I agree! Please don't be overconfident-Chinese does exactly the opposite. They complete the job, then rest of the world realizes. China is quickly catching up. I recently attended a BPO conference in New York, where I saw how China is maturing fast and inviting attention; additionally Latin America is working so hard to catch up. We cannot relax. Once the trust and hype goes, down will go all the outsourcing jobs from India. Our biggest bottleneck is infrastructure-including Airports, roads, hotels, and communication to name a few. India needs to quickly expand outside the major cities, by building newer cities and airports, since it takes years to improve inside an existing city. China is building new townships, exclusively for software firms. Please focus on this.
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RE:RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by hello on Feb 15, 2007 09:31 AM Please go to Metha Patkar page in another link in rediff & please copy & paste this message. Very good. I appreciate. Also, very good for the Page about the story of an India who disowned by India. I appreciate.
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RE:RE:RE:The world is waking up to a New India? A Dream! can be true by hello on Feb 15, 2007 09:43 AM I talked a lot in various postings & I am almost out of points. Mr. Sunny Chakraborti, Shall I copy & post your message in two more pages???
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India -- capable but..... by Confused on Feb 15, 2007 07:29 AM | Hide replies
By the end of one week in USA i could understand that India has everything, like natural resources, large manpower, intelegence, hard working nature, can undergo hardship, Family and community feelings, technological progress ----All this is waste because of a small element we are badly missing that is Sincerity. Yes Corruption is killing our country -We are not only dishonest to others but we are even dihonest to our selves. We want something else to do we do some thing else and we want to show something else. No honesty anywhere btw Not only the people who do corruption are dishonest but the people who pay bribe are more responsible
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RE:India -- capable but..... by Confused on Feb 15, 2007 07:30 AM ... few more thigs too we have ... Beautiful tourist places ... historical places... cultural heritage...and rich literature.
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RE:RE:India -- capable but..... by hello on Feb 15, 2007 07:53 AM I really like USA & its technological advancements, the people behavior & their understanding of world & their eagerness to learn about the world. But you are right, when compare to our motherland, of course, those relationships, feelings, talking w/ mother, relative with phone etc. we cannot compare.
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Check this by navdeep bhatia on Feb 15, 2007 06:58 AM | Hide replies
RE:Check this by hello on Feb 15, 2007 07:58 AM This is the third time I am seeing this message. That's what I said. Those were there even before I born & my father born. What is the new thing is our growth rate is 9% now.
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India is a Super Power. I told one of the World Power before, now I changed after reading your comments. by hello on Feb 15, 2007 05:57 AM | Hide replies
India is a Super Power. I told World Power before, now I changed after reading your comments. Any objections any body???
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RE:India is a Super Power. I told one of the World Power before, now I changed after reading your comments. by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:09 AM Also one more thing, don't give up this under any circumstances. A country may face down-turn or up-turn or other turns. Keep this mantra always, that is what we have to do. What poverty??? What illitracy??? What politicians??? Everything was there a long ago, when the growth rate was 4%,5%,6%,7%,8%,9% etc. Didn't we grow even with all these!!! Didn't we grow even when sactions were imposed on us. Didn't we got independence, with unity, tell me what was the illitracy, what was the poverty. Just see forward & see the positive points!!!
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PLEASEREAD by thepolice stewart on Feb 15, 2007 05:27 AM | Hide replies
WELL SAID THAT ABSOLUTELY TRUE,WE ARE IMPROVING BUT NOT YET THERE,SO THERE IS NO ROOM FOR COMPLACENCY.MY ADVICE TO THOSE PESSIMIST PEOPLE OUT HERE:VISIT OTHER COUNTRIES TO FIND HOW THEY ARE.THEIR SOULS ARE NOT CLEAN(IAM GENERALIZING) HOW SELFISH PEOPLE ARE IN OTHER COUNTRIES.I HAVE BEEN LIVING IN A DIFF COUNTRY FOR 7 YRS AND IAM LEAVING TO INDIA NEXT MONTH TO HELP CHANGE MY NATION AND LET PEOPLE KNOW WE ARE GOOD BUT WE ARE LAGGING AND IN THE PROCESS WILL GROW MYSELF AND MY COUNTRY GROW I WISH EVERONE COULD STAY IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY FOR A YEAR TO UNDERSTAND HOW SELFISH PEOPLE ARE,IF YOU LIVE FOR A MONTH OR JUST GO FOR A VISIT U WILL ONLY SEE GREEN. ASK ME ABOUT INDIA AND INDIANS,I HAVE STUDIED IN THE NORTH,SOUTH,WEST,EAST,CENTRAL INDIA AND HAVE WORKED AND STAYED IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD FOR 7 YEARS AND I REALIZED HOW GOOD WE ARE AS A NATION (INDIANS SELDOM KNOW),AND I KNEW EVEN BEFORE VISITING AND STATING IN THESE PLACES,ITS JUST THAT I HAVE ENOUGH PROOF. NO,IAM NOT 60 YRS OLD,IAM 27 AND I WILL INSPIRE A FEW. WISH ME LUCK GUYS,I KNOW I WILL FACE MANY CHALLENGES BUT I REALIZE THAT THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME,WICH ME LUCK!
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RE:PLEASEREAD by mehul ved on Feb 15, 2007 05:32 AM You the man!!!...Wish you all the very best!!!...Join you soon!!
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by patriot on Feb 15, 2007 06:56 AM why not now?
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RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 05:49 AM Rightly said. Just tell me when a poor met an accident in India, what will happen. They take to hospital emergency and get TREATED. But in developed country, they do the same & you have to pay for your life if you don't have insurance. Who cares poor more? We are treating poor very good. Giving farmers subsidy etc. So, don't reply with saying like we are giving more to the farmers & make them lazy.
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by Vijay Purbhe on Feb 15, 2007 06:04 AM In India, if you have an accident, people will either ignore it or not take the person to hospital. Unlike India, where hosiptals wont take you in unless the police FIR is filed for some accident or assault, developed countries treat them much better (without insurance and without money if you dont know). Stop blabbering if you dont know the truth about the developed countries and how they operate, IDIOTS.
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:13 AM Take it cool!!! Please go w/o visitors insurance to a developed country, you know
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RE:RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by patriot on Feb 15, 2007 06:57 AM there are many countries where you dont need insurance and get treated better than in india. remember me???? lol
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by srinu reddy on Feb 15, 2007 08:00 AM we are giving more to farmers(good joke).. they why are farmers committing suicide. 9% growth rate for 2 years and you are thinking India superpower.grow up guys.what about people who are doing normal jobs(other than it). what about infrastructure.and basic needs like pure drinking water,food and electricity.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by Vijay Purbhe on Feb 15, 2007 06:05 AM Mr. whoever, I have been staying in the developed country for past 5 years and I dont see any truth in the statements that you have made here. You dont have to get emotional about these issue. You will find cons the moment you land in any Indian airport, what the hell are you talking about?
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:15 AM If that is the case, we have to train the staffs & air hostess with a developed country training school on how to smile on the face.
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:41 AM I am not a curser of developed country, it is far far better. Great freedom, Human Rights! Cleaniness etc are very good. The "Adopt a Highway" concept is a very good one. A lot of good things. But when telling developed country example to undermine India, I little talked aganist developed country, I like their way of life to some extent.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by solomon george on Feb 15, 2007 06:41 AM i live in the US and work in the health sector.as per US law, no person can be turned away from receiving emergency care irrespective of his/her ability to pay.though the stay may be billed,it does not mean that one HAS to pay up especially if disabled or unemployed.and if u r a visitor,it makes sense to take travel insurance,as no tax payer wud like to pay up for someone who has not given his share of taxes.and it dos'nt cost much to get one.one has to learn to always live within ones budget. there r low income families that like to get a luxury car and end up allocating 25-30% of the income on it. why not use that for getting a health insurance instead.whereas in india, someone may take u to a hospital but the surgeon may not operate until payed under the table.(esp in govt hosp). in the private hosp-forget it!
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:45 AM That is what I said before you tell. I am not a curser of developed country, it is far far better. Great freedom, Human Rights! Cleaniness etc are very good. The "Adopt a Highway" concept is a very good one. A lot of good things. But when telling developed country example to undermine India, I little talked aganist developed country, I like their way of life to some extent.
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by hello on Feb 15, 2007 06:56 AM Sorry. I love USA, I love developed country. I love UK. I love Japan. I love Germany, Europe. I love other countries. I am searching for the guy who diverted attention to developed country.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by andre joseph on Feb 15, 2007 08:19 AM Please, I'm not being pessimistic or indulging in India bashing. I am an ordinary middle class Indian who lived a honest life for 42 years in India. I now live in the USA and will be here for a few years. I bought a plot of land with my hard earned money in Bangalore. I got it checked thoroughly by a lawyer and got all the documents in my name. I regularly paid taxes for this property for nine long years and built a compound wall around it. One fine morning.........a bunch of thugs landed up and demolished my compound wall. I ran to the police station as they were destroying my wall and they merely told me it was a "civil issue" and wouldn't interfere. I went to the court and after two long years and a hundred visits won the case against them. Now I hear another goonda who has a local minister's support is again causing trouble. Buddy, there are selfish and bad people everywhere and America or any other western nation is no exception. Incidentally at least the police will come to my rescue in another nation. In India the police supports the mighty, not an innocent like me. If you have money and muscle power, wrong can be right in India at every level. I have experienced this and in no small measure. I am happy to know that at least a few young men like you are going back to India in the hope of improving our lot. I hope and pray you don't return disillusioned. When we say India is improving, many of us avoid saying the number of farmers who committed suicide crossed the thousand mark in one state alone in the same breath. Yes, urban India is improving and at electric speed. I hope this development also percolates to the guy who grows tomatoes in the hope of feeding his family three square meals a day, and with a heavy heart has to dump it on the highway coz there are no takers for his toil. I have always felt we are a gifted country, but somehow we fail to take advantage of our capabilities. We have the best form of Government in the civilized world which is called Democracy, but conveniently forget the fact Democracy minus discipline is the worst form of Government. Unless we put our political house in order, we certainly have no hope with all this development. America has turned us into their steno pool, but I wonder if this is our best option. I hope it is. Good luck Buddy! I wish you the very best. I
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by thepolice stewart on Feb 15, 2007 10:11 AM iam deeply moved,farmers and children are at the top of my list.thanks for your concern. iam ready to sacrifice in this process,at the end of my life even if i turned out to be a failure,i will die happy thinking "i tried".
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RE:RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by andre joseph on Feb 15, 2007 11:39 AM good to know you are so very committed to helping our country. i plan to come back to india in the year 2011 and i would like to at least help out with such an endeavour. if you will be considering such participation, my e-mail id is major.jacob@gmail.com
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RE:PLEASEREAD by ghanshyam dave on Feb 15, 2007 08:53 AM Thanks my friend,i have, like you travelled and lived out of India many years, rightly said by you but remember the gap between rich and poor is very wide in India or any other asian countries, in western world what we see basic requirements is luxury in India, like many things, i but, still agree with you to some extent that there is corrupton in western world but common people dont have to suffer bcz of that, i am like any other Indian have fire and desire to serve for the Nation but not ready to get get trapped in the hands of corrupt politicians. WHAT WE NEED IS POLITICAL REVOLUTION AND EQUAL LAWS FOR ALL.IN INDIA LAWS ARE FOR COMMON PEOPLE, SPECIAL PERSON GETS SPECIAL TREATMENT(THE BIGGEST EXAMPLE IS SANJAY DUTT, Lalu yadav and his company, jayalalita and many more LALUS AND LALEES).(NEWS:POLICE COMMISSIONER IN WISCONSIN STATE OF U.S.A FINED HIMSELF FOR ACCIDENTLY OVERTAKING SCHOOL BUS) PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU FIND SUCH HONEST PEOPLE IN INDIA I WILL PAY FOR YOUR AIR TICKET AND READY TO PAY FOR TWO MORE REVOLUTIONERS WHO WANT TO COME BACK TO INDIA.
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by thepolice stewart on Feb 15, 2007 10:14 AM dear ghanshyam ji, thanks for your concern,there are many people with great intentions it is just that we need a collective action taken. iam sure there will be at least a million people who could take action out of a billion people. dont worry,iam froma fairly renowed family from south,as i said iam ready to sacrifice myself in this process,at the end of my life even if i turned out to be a failure,i will die happy thinking "i tried".
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RE:RE:PLEASEREAD by ANIL DHYANI on Feb 15, 2007 10:15 AM India Needs, heavy revolutions against corrupt systems,politicians,rishwat khori. We and new generation could only do this. We also need to remove selfishness from ourselves. We also use to give rishwat when it needs, as our system demands. Loot maar is heavy. We need a positive wave like in China to improve our structure. It needs step by step renovation and with result orientation. It needs to clean up those who comes in middle of these projects. Since, illiteracy is still there, differece of poverty with rich still heavey in many areas. So, it could take time. We should remove monopolistic competition, builders who are capturing the land of agricultures in many areas. If we check it with our population, we find that in future, if builders will cover our agriculture land with same speed, than it will be difficult for ourselves to live here. Farmers are giving up, commiting suiside. So, if we compare ourselves with other world, India needs a big positive mantra,attitude. For which we have to come in front and raise same things to our politicians.
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RE:PLEASEREAD by sriram muthukrishnan on Feb 15, 2007 12:47 PM I really appericiate you... Good luck man!!! Go ahead with confidence.....
