So you are saying that manners and etiquettes are measured by a yardstick set up by western world? You should have read Swami Vivekananda%u2019 address ! Yes we don%u2019t hold doors open for women and we don%u2019t say artificial pleasantries to them, but Hinduism tells them to respect as our mothers and sisters. and not like west, you say polite things but next thing you want it get laid, or you objectify women a %u2018thing%u2019 to desire. We don%u2019t need western benchmark for our thinking , way of life. Our Hindu value system is greatest , and it was NEVER IN Dark ages- that is a term for Europeans. We were ahead before, and we will be ahead soon.