Mr.ABCD,may be.. you can recommend this scenario to Lalit modi, for IPL09. understand that, even if u loose by 1 run, you LOOSE!! if you tie, you LOOSE 1 point! so, no point in discussing the run rate when MI already hit the end of the road! Moral of the story : If ya hunger is satisfied by 5 apples, you can't eat the 5th apple first to get ya hunger done!!! :) Win,Win,points..points... there you go to semis!