oh well, there's a bunch who think it is :) thats ok. however much we try and thrash it out here, things are different on the field. rediff boards are sometimes crazy with a lot of emotions. unfortunately, a lot of aussies i see and opine here think india is pretty much like effigy burning, message board spamming ones. well, good for them if they cant understand a complex country, cos it does not make a difference. for better or for worse, india's pretty slow to change in a lot of things, and we still have a lot of teething problems. anyways, im tired of speding time on these boards too. any constructive argument is met with single pointed propaganda. all the very best :)