for Gavaskar to criticize Greg Chappell as he is not a Maharashtrian, why does'nt he criticize Sachin Tendulkar and the Indian batting for failing in the WC. After all the coach doesnt play and even if he is a bad coach, Sachin and other paper tigers are expected to play well, they are not kids they are experienced players
Sunil blaming Greg Chappell for the current state of the Indian Team, is just one among the many he has been doing all through his life.. During his playing days, he was never supportive of his own team members. Sunil was more interested in creating records for himself and such was his dominance over the establishment that no action was ever contemplated. Without contributing anything worthwhile for the game after his playing days, he is now like the proverbial pot - calling the kettle black.
Gavaskar just said what players couldnt say due to the media gaga.... Q1 What has gavaskar to again out of this.....he is in contention to be the coach if he wants..????so why will he burn his own hands by telling the truth to dumb INDIANS.
Q2 Ask yourself ...was India that bad before chappel became the coach.....i mean exit in the first round from the world cup and championstrophy exit at home????????? I DONT THINK SO....
Q3 Was the team divided like this...... I DONT THINK SO.....
Q4 WE WENT CHAPPEL WAY FOR THE CHAMPIONSTROPHY....DID WE GET ANY RESULTS...???? I DONT THINK SO....
Q5 Was PATHAN and Sehwag our leading performers ...??????? YES
Q6 Team will never be united.....? Thanks to DRAVID AND CHAPPEL.
1.Ganguly,Yuvraj,Sehwag,Pathan, Harbhajan,Zaheer you call that a group?
2.Sachin,Agarkar..
3. ANYWAY U LOOK AT IT....DRAVID ONLY FIGURES IN ONE GROUP ...THATS DRAVID AND CHAPPEL.....thats what i called groupism....if 10 are united and 1 is with the coach...thenhe has a problem...
DRAVID the reason y India will never be united under his leadership.
Q7.DONT BE DUMB.....READ WHAT GAVASKAR SAID....WAS THERE ANY SPECULATION...........U DUMB FOOLS??????
RE:REMOVE DRAVID...
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect the ganguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell but both players may not play WC2011 tee taht t Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI Indian cricket needs Chappell: Tiger Pautidi he was trying to bring in Indian cricked was kind of shift to the emphasis from individual flair and brilliance to a kind of teamwork - which Australia are so good at - which is why he was actually invited to this country. http://www.cricketnext.com/news/indian-cricket-needs-chappell-pataudi/24441-14.html Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779
Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.html was what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'
Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI
that contributed to our losses against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka." http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms
RE:REMOVE DRAVID...
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 11:20 AM Permalink
odi winning average diff ganguly and dravid is only 1% while ganguly led team for 146 ois dravid only 63 matches ganguly was captain for 5yrs while dravid not even 2yrs
RE:REMOVE DRAVID...
by Girish Rao on Apr 23, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
for question 2) yes we did remember 2004 Champions trophy. for question 1) we were humiliated in the finals and the only reason we reached finals was because our bowlers bowled well and we had Kenya as our S/F opponents. Our bowlers bowled badly in finals and we lost. r batting is/was always overrated. We batted well only against Pak in a important match
RE:RE:REMOVE DRAVID...
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
Q1 - during WC03 sacin batted brillently and dravid did keeping for team cause to add one more extra batsman and srinath bowled to his heart? where was captain when team required his service? sewag and dravid scored in final match MOST IMP IN Wc 2007 IT SENIOR PLAYERS BACKSTABBED DRAVID. MAINLY GANGULY?? any win WC match would have harmed the record of ganguly ganguly and gang had major role in WC debacle rather than dravid's captincy?/ WHAT ABOUT TEAM EXIT IN 1ST ROUND DRUING CHAMPIOSN TROPHY 2004 IN ENGLAND ?? Q2 team ind won champions trophy not b;cuz of ganguly leadership but rain spoil the game and SL and ind delcared joint winnier 3 ganguly only promoted groupism. LAXMAN KUMBLE Were not fitted in his group and shown door even after the good performance.?? team selection during ganguly's cpaticny done by dalmiay and ganguly both were fullpower thought nobody will dethrone them from the seat ganguly is selfish oppertunist, he is not only promoting goupism,but spoiling sportsman spirit of younger player like bajji, zahi, dhoni by encouraging to play petty politics Pls highlight dravid's contributions to gangyl's succes as captain if ganguly is great leader or sports mand ( as u think) should have reciprocate 50%what dravid has contribted for his success of five yers. gangulu had last laugh that he got rid of chappell and humiliated dravid but He is looser see public poll result almost 50% supported dravid's captaincy and mejority favoured the decision of resting sperstares for BD odi series. Before WC debacle if there was poll for captaincy 90% would have voted for ganguly and many turned to dravid, yuvraj, sachin... some channels like ndtv, news papers go on dravid bashing ( see the jadeja's comments) and praise ganguly...even ganguly marketing stretagy/ flamebouncy is not helping...
RE:REMOVE DRAVID...
by Arup Palit on Apr 23, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
it is the duty of the captain to get the best out of his players. this is where ganguly is far ahead than dravid.
try to understand, suman bai, if at all u have brain to understand
RE:gavaskar
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
Lack of commitment, fighting spirit, negative body language, playing for self recores, to cement place for next matches, sponsers, poor fielding, trying to expose each on the field, promoting groupism etc.. Has coach told instructed for all these?? chappell's big mistake was he treated all players alike, equally and push the players from comfort zone. many superstars were taken their placed for granted.... winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players on the field irrepective of coach, captain, pitch and conditions. SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect theanguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell but both players may not play WC2011
DNA newspaper reported that it is sachin, ganguly yuvraj and sreesant signed contract till 2011. this resting and discussion media speculation are just eyewashing business nobody has guts to remove 2 super starts rrom the team
RE:THEN and NOW!
by stalin on Apr 23, 2007 11:21 AM Permalink
You are absolutely right,Aniruddha The coach made negative comments about the MOS of WC 03 even before starting his coaching assignment He should rather have encouraged and helped players to get into form to
RE:THEN and NOW!
by aatank on Apr 23, 2007 11:03 AM Permalink
great post, you know what, in what we call ndiscipline, was an inherent passion to excel, wan a planning from the captain every time they faced challenges,like down under or pakis, or world cup. they were almost world beaters, time was to move on and conquer, irony they have moved back and are nowhere, wish they can do something about it, unfortunately, its late, mr.gavaskar, u and saurav foughtto get chappell with th eright intentions, but unfortunately you guys picked the wrong guy.. u ppl have great harm to this nation by getting this crook to coach india
RE:THEN and NOW!
by kisari sridhar on Apr 23, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
Its very simple, the logic of great sportsman as a great man said - " Give them everything, spoil them and then you expect. You will see them perform above expectations," & this holds good for the Indian Cricket team. NO MILITARY SYSTEM IN SPORTS PLEASE. The game is all about enjoying your game. Discipline will score above dedication is sports. Its only dedication,commitment and enjoyment that will make a great team or a player.
RE:THEN and NOW!
by VishwaMurti Gupta on Apr 23, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Anirudda sen so u want to say indians are not going to change. Buddy instead of finding problems in greg think of problems in ur GREAT INDIAN TEAM.
RE:THEN and NOW!
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Lack of commitment, fighting spirit, negative body language, playing for self recores, to cement place for next matches, sponsers, poor fielding, trying to expose each on the field, promoting groupism etc.. Has coach told instructed for all these?? chappell's big mistake was he treated all players alike, equally and push the players from comfort zone. many superstars were taken their placed for granted.... winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players on the field irrepective of coach, captain, pitch and conditions. SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect the ganguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell
RE:THEN and NOW!
by kisari sridhar on Apr 23, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
Its very simple, the logic of great sportsman as a great man said - " Give them everything, spoil them and then you expect. You will see them perform above expectations," & this holds good for the Indian Cricket team. NO MILITARY SYSTEM IN SPORTS PLEASE. The game is all about enjoying your game. Discipline will score above dedication is sports. Its only dedication,commitment and enjoyment that will make a great team or a player.
Sunil Gavaskar has mustered the courage to spaek now!! How ridiculous--here is a man who played only for individual records and had not commented on Greg at all. Now he recommends to the BCCI that advertisements should be restricted for players--where is the connection between this and Greg? Come on Mr. Gavaskar--grow up
Why dont you save this nonsense talk until India really performs well and start winning? When you commeneted on Aussies on-field behavior, Ponting said one straing comment "We all know the way he played his cricket. Dont we" and also said that "India never performed well overseas". All this was before world cup and what happened...The same old story and what evet Ponting said has come to true. Your comments on Aussies have done more damage to India than Aussies. So for now, stop this nonsense talk and save this until India starts winning again.
Search the main frame for "nick". There in u find that our Gava had actually nicked the 2nd ball of the infamous 36 run innings but it was never appealed for by England.
It is my strong feeling that Australian team was afraid of India, after the great Calcutta defeat! Mr. Greg Chappel was sent to India as a coach with a hidden plot to sabotage Indian Cricket. And he is successful to some extent. Our poor (Not economically but mentally) BCCI played in to his ploy.
I am happy that Gavaskar has come out openly. Only India can outsmart Australia in Cricket. Kris Sishtla
Dont even day dream of beating australia. They r professionals -- 1 cheer for every letter of the word. Indians dont even stand a chance even in their dreams. Forget it.
RE:Mr.Gavaskar is absolutely correct
by rohan patil on Apr 23, 2007 10:45 AM Permalink
I fully agree with you. After appointment of Chappel Indian team has done the worst.
None of the Senior & young players have done well. The Seniors lost their form due to constant change in the batting position. Also Irfan our main spear head ace bowler lost his rythmn after being promoted as one down batsman. Today he is not in the team.
RE:Mr.Gavaskar is absolutely correct
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
that contributed to our losses against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka." http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms