Only Mr. Sunil has shown the courage to say the actual truth behind India's such a debacle. Everybody else is rather poloticizing and searching their own fruit (including Board President)out of it. Mr. Chappel was taking 'TEAM INDIA' into the Zimbabwe way and sadly we still seem to adhere to it. India got independance more than 50 years back, but how sad it is that we still are happier in meaningless appreciation of them, even if it causes lots of harm to us.
RE:Govaskar's comment on Chappel
by Hinoo Bakra on Apr 22, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
It's a donkey braying when it sees another donkey. Bakwaskar cannot help because his tail is tied to Chappal's tail !
RE:Govaskar's comment on Chappel
by faizanquershi faiz on Apr 22, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
Hi, Its so strange that people still blame the coach for the world cup debacle,where our so called hyped non performing players should be blamed .Mr Gavaskar has not done any thing for indian cricket ,if he was so worried he should have been coach by now.He is one of those selfish and biased cricketer who has done no good for indian cricket.
RE:Govaskar's comment on Chappel
by kraft on Apr 22, 2007 05:53 PM Permalink
You are wrong Faiz, gavaskar has done one thing. He tried desperately to promote his son Rohan Gavaskar into the Indian Team, but failed. Now he will criticise others like Greg.
Indian administrators were tardy in their approach towards encouraging the limited-overs game. The initial thinking was that it was a fad that would not last long. Also there were doubts as to whether the Indian cricket fan, weaned on Test cricket for years, would take to the shorter version of the game. While the Gillette Cup was launched in England in 1963, it was not until 1973 that the BCCI constituted the first one-day domestic tournament, the Deodhar Trophy.
The unimaginative approach was reflected in how the Indian cricketers tackled the intricacies of the one-day game. India had played just two ODIs in England in 1974 before taking part in the inaugural World Cup in England the following year. Today%u2019s hype surrounding the Indian team was nowhere in evidence; interest in their campaign was lukewarm. Test matches were still uppermost in the minds of the Indian cricket fan, though, it was hoped that placed in an easier group, India with some luck might make it to the semi-finals.
Easier group was right, for while West Indies, Australia, Pakistan and Sri Lanka were bunched together in group B, India were alongside England, New Zealand and East Africa in group A. East Africa would be a piece of cake, while England it was conceded would be too strong for India. So the crucial game for India would be the one against New Zealand. Read more
Surprising to hear this from Gavaskar, professional always, he could well have been less condescending whatever maybe the animosity he has has with Greg. He should also know as captain previously, the Indian team needs no help in floundering against any team, as for BCCI and Zimbabwe, I would give the benefit of doubt to Zimbabwe as a country as against an organization and known for the politics.
Gavaskar has always critized the people who have failed. If he is so much worried about indian cricket why he didn't take himself the job. I am sure if he puts his application for National cricket coach he will be given the job. But no he only will do the commentry as its the easiest job one can do. One can talk anything and you are not answerable to anyone but still make a lot of money. So Gavaskar please stop critising and jump in the ring and give this indian cricket some knowledge you think you have. Otherwise shut up. Critising is the most easiest job in the world. And you are doing it perfectly. Wnever your name has come up to take up the job you have put forward your professional commentments first. Well this proves how concern you are about the state on indian cricket.
RE:Gavaskar only talks
by Hinoo Bakra on Apr 22, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
Bakwaskar only puts his foot into his mouth. Perhaps, if BCCI had stuffed his locker with enough green bills, he may have been interested in coaching. Mercifully, we have been spared.
RE:Gavaskar only talks
by kraft on Apr 22, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
Whenever gavaskar opens his mouth, he does it widely to enable his Foot to go into it! For the sake of Indian Cricket and decency ask him to Shutup.
RE:Both greg and gavaskar are
by Hinoo Bakra on Apr 22, 2007 05:38 PM Permalink
It's a donkey braying when it sees another donkey. Bakwaskar cannot help because his tail is tied to Chappal's tail !
RE:RE:Both greg and gavaskar are
by hash good on Apr 22, 2007 05:40 PM Permalink
Hello prince, be decent on net. You not only seed hatred in people's minds but bring down the standard of a highly regarded discussion forum. Please.
RE:RE:Both greg and gavaskar are
by Gaurav Deol on Apr 22, 2007 05:35 PM Permalink
yea in a world cup match in 1978, i think..he played out 60 overs and made 34 not out..In those days, the matches were not 50 over a side, it was 60 overs a side
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by Gaurav Deol on Apr 22, 2007 05:36 PM Permalink
here is the link for that..in fact he scored 36.. http://sify.com/khel/wc_fullstory.php?id=14384314 Indian administrators were tardy in their approach towards encouraging the limited-overs game. The initial thinking was that it was a fad that would not last long. Also there were doubts as to whether the Indian cricket fan, weaned on Test cricket for years, would take to the shorter version of the game. While the Gillette Cup was launched in England in 1963, it was not until 1973 that the BCCI constituted the first one-day domestic tournament, the Deodhar Trophy.
The unimaginative approach was reflected in how the Indian cricketers tackled the intricacies of the one-day game. India had played just two ODIs in England in 1974 before taking part in the inaugural World Cup in England the following year. Today%u2019s hype surrounding the Indian team was nowhere in evidence; interest in their campaign was lukewarm. Test matches were still uppermost in the minds of the Indian cricket fan, though, it was hoped that placed in an easier group, India with some luck might make it to the semi-finals.
Easier group was right, for while West Indies, Australia, Pakistan and Sri Lanka were bunched together in group B, India were alongside England, New Zealand and East Africa in group A. East Africa would be a piece of cake, while England it was conceded would be too strong for India. So the crucial game for India would be the one against New Zealand. Read more
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Conventional wisdom had it that the ideal bowling line-up in one-day cricket was four seamers and one spinner. But India should have been the exception to this rule given their traditional spin strength. The team management, however, stuck to convention while picking the team for the opening game against England with disastrous results.
The four-man seam attack of Karsan Ghavri, Mohinder Amarnath, Madan Lal and Abid Ali was treated rather harshly and the result was that England rattled up 334 for four in 60 overs. The lone spinner in skipper S Venkatraghavan was the most economical among the bowlers. England made merry with opening batsman Dennis Amiss getting 137 off 147 balls with 18 hits to the fence. He put on 176 runs for the second wicket with Keith Fletcher. In the final stages, Chris Old piled on the agony by clouting an unbeaten 51 off 30 balls with four fours and two sixes.
The Indian reply was limp made unforgettable in a hideous sort of way by Sunil Gavaskar%u2019s infamous 36 not out in 60 overs. He played 174 balls hitting but a solitary boundary and India finished at a highly unsatisfactory 132 for two off 60 overs. The Indian reply left a bad taste in the mouth and as Tony Lewis wrote at the time ``It was a perverse moment of self-inflicted shame%u2019%u2019
RE:Both greg and gavaskar are
by hash good on Apr 22, 2007 05:35 PM Permalink
Go first learn basics of cricket and its history before making hollow, abusive and irrelevant comments, Mr Prince Prince.
BCCI should think on the fact that Indians have potential to have coach of Lions. Gavaskar and Kapil Dev can be called for this and they shouldn't deny as afterall it matters for the country as a whole.
I am glad that finally Sunil Gavaskar is coming out openly and taking a moral stance,I would have liked it even more had he spoken out during that era when Chappel,along with his assistant(more) and the serventlike Dravid ,were ruling like Myanmar s millitary Junta------- playing with Ganguly s career just to settle personal score,trying out bizare "experimentation", behaving like a headmaster with the team and so on.now that Chappel has a problem with Sachin Tendulkar we see that Gavaskar comes openly against Chappel. Their is no doubt that Chappel with his dictatorial attitude and insulting manners demoralised the players ,a demoralised bunch can never perform,so he was responsible . However we must not believe that Chappels exit means end of all problems ,Chappel and his forigners have gone but they have been repolaced by the Shashtri led "Bombay lobby' ,which would impose itself on the dummy,sub servient Dravid and make no mistake about this hardly any North zone or East zone player would find a place on the side. Not only this Chappl is gone but the greedy,selfish,parochial,BCCI the main villain is not going it improve.
RE:Sunny Knows best
by deepa on Apr 22, 2007 05:31 PM Permalink
HOW U CAN SAY SUNNY IS RIGHT?? IF THE PLAYERS R NOT PLAYING WELL, WHAT CAN A COACH DO? CAN HE BAT ON BEHALF OF PLAYERS? STUPID TALK BY SUNNY & U ARE AGREEING WITH HIM? SEE BCCI'S POLITCS & SELECTORS ATTITUDE; WE CANNOT CHANGE INDIAN CRICKET EVEN BY THE END OF 2100AD! EVEN COACH FROM MARS CANNOT CHANGE THIS INDIAN TEAM!! SO, DONT BLAME GRG, Mr.SUNNY
RE:RE:Sunny Knows best
by Tony Joseph on Apr 22, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
deepa, when u start talking facts people jus abuse..all india needs is jus people like so called mr.gavaskar who does not have the guts to speak up in a BCCI meeting..and is now talking rubbish
