I have been readibg all the comments in this site. Basically Rahul is a very good obidient boy, all parents would like to have. He does not have the guts and courage to impliment his ideas, and thus he is uncomfortable with Sachin & Sourav around. As the parents(BCCI) love him more, they have sacked the other two talented sons. This is expected from the BCCI people eg Shah, Manohar Pawaretc who have never played or understand cricket. Lastly, I personally think that India could have defended 191 against Bangladesh, Had an agressive captain been there. Captaincy in that game was abyssmal.
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 06:29 PM Permalink
If the whole team fails, the captain cannot do anything. See the way we bowled against Bangaldesh, we cant defend even 300 agaisnt Bangladesh.
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 06:30 PM Permalink
Moreoever, Saurav was considered a great captain because he has the players who are all in a good form and indian team is winning. Saurav will fail today in this situation
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Dravid is not a powerful leader and has no respect from the existing senior players. That%u2019s why he is looking for new players who will be grateful for the chance in the team. He is too introvert & self centered to be a captain. For his selfish act and self interest he turned the 'Team India' to a collection of great players. If you can not build a team then you can not be a team leader. Without a %u201Cteam%u201D you can't win.
Sourav had built the team and used get 110% from a player that is the sign of a great leader while Dravid gets only 25% of someone%u2019s potential. We could defend lost against Bangladesh because %u2013 1. Wrong team selection, Kumble should have picked, why Uthappa & Sehwag both in the team what was their individual role as a batsman in the team throughout the WC?? Why Dravid is not in number 3? 2. Munaf who just had a 5 wicket haul in the previous game should have started the bowling or should have brought in attack within first 5 overs, seeing other two are not performing. 3. Should have used Harbhajan, Sehwag, Sachin & Yuvraj lot early after seeing the Bangladesh spinners. 4. Why nourishing Irfan for last two years to make him India%u2019s trump card in WC and not using him at all? THE BIGGEST MANAGEMENT BLUNDER OF ALL TIME IN CRICKET HISTORY!!!
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
you canot blame only Dravid here. decisions such are the decisions taken in the team meeting and coach, captain, vice cpatina and senior players will decide the strategies. Team selection, bowling changes, strategies like whom to bowl in the opneing position all will be discussed as part of the Team meeting.
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by Abhijit Roy on Apr 22, 2007 12:14 AM Permalink
SENIORS ARE THEIR TO GIVE INPUTS. CAPTAINS JOB IS TO ASSIMILATE THEM MAKE HIS FINAL STERN DISCISION; AND NOT GET LOST IN THE MODE OF INDESCISIVENESS.
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
Then Why do we need a captain? Seems like if it is a win, its because of Dravid. But if it is a loss, then it is everyone else fault .. very good. .. In that why not make me captian..I'll take everyone's suggestion ...
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
odi winning average diff ganguly and dravid is only 1% while ganguly led team for 146 ois dravid only 63 matches ganguly was captain for 5yrs while dravid not even 2yrs
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by Faceless Spirit on Apr 21, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
The Board the captain and the captain's fans all are stinking and farting in joy. The entire place is full of foul smell.
India will return loser from Bangla outing. The great captain shall silently pass three more farts in joy again.
Only new player is Manoj. He will not be given any chance to play and be dropped again. The scheme is such that they will call Tendulkar agin but won't give chance to Ganguly.
Farting captain is farting all over the places with his farting fans who write long eulogies on this joker Rahul.
Bare his back and cane him with an oil soaked cane stick 10000 times.
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by Abhijit Roy on Apr 21, 2007 11:07 PM Permalink
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT BOSS! T WHOLE PROBLEM LIES WITH THE BCCIAND THOSE WHO RUN IT.
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 22, 2007 12:12 AM Permalink
Media is making too much noise. Both super stars are rested not dropped Sachin being VC is failed with bat during WC.? How can a ganguly%u2019s performance helped the team ?? His 129-ball 66 against Bangladesh, 114-ball 89 against Bermuda, and 23-ball 7 against Sri Lanka conveyed the impression that he was more concerned with making runs for himself than the team. Poor fielding, poor running between wkt, and unwilling to take singles not rotating strke etc.. Many cricket / media expert are telling dravid influencing the sehwag why reliable sources ?? sehwag is highest run getter with better average and strike rate? He is highest rungetter and scored 100 in WC while no other batsman including yuvraj did not score 100 against Bermuda also When ganguly was captain, laxman and kumble were out of team even after good performance which ended odi career of laxman and kumble. gangauly will go down in history that most successful captain in ditching dalmaiy, dravid and sachin.. why did not ganguly resign whem team failed in 1st in ICC trophy in england 2004?? ganguly will go in histroy that he was successful all his dadagirit promoting groupism? why so successful ganguly never accounted in top 10 ranking of ICC anytime in his 10 yrs career??ganguly will go in history that he is only politician cricketer who used media and politician influence to get the back door entry and sucessful in destroying dressing room/ team spirit by vomiting dressing room conflict infront of media during Zim tour ganguly is successful selfish, oppertunist, cunning politician
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 22, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
take out dravid's performance from ganguly's success and his average succes will be lower than sahcin. dravid gave 100 % commitment to team cause and he trusted that senior players will support but was back fired by sachin, ganguly bajji dhoni agarkar and zahirkahn if so called superstarts deliberatly play negative cricket and make sure team lost match why blame the captain??
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by Abhijit Roy on Apr 21, 2007 11:09 PM Permalink
The captain has to have a PLAN B. He looked all at sea. He does not smile, and is expressionless.
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 22, 2007 12:17 AM Permalink
politician ganguly and VC sachin failed in WC agaisnt SL . sachin failed against bangladesh also. Board/selection committe rested 2 super star players for odis b'czu has both were become sic and tired of dressing room politics.ganguly played negative cirket and gifted match to bangaldesh and Sl ganguly is main culprit for WC debacle. ganguly betrayed dalmiaya, sachin and dravid.team ind in 2004 failed in england in ICC trophy team did not win any series in SA when ganguly was captain team had many humiliated defeats by kiwis ( 56 all out lowes odi score for team india) ausses WI and pakistan take out dravid's performance and ganguly success average as captain will be lower than sachins sahme on politician ganguly promoting groupism and spoiling sports man spirit of younger players encouraging them for petty politics ganguly had huge succes as dadagiri betryaing sachi to get captaincy, betrayed dalmiay who influned for ganguly to continue as captian even after poor pathatic form and ganguly betrayed dravid who anchored the success of ganguly as captain. take out performance of dravid and check the ganguly success record it will be lower than sachins GNAGULY IS SUCCESSFUL IN PROMOTING GROUPISM AND ENCOURAGING YOUNGESTER TO PLAY PETTY POLITICS AGAISNT TEAMMATES AND SPOILING SPORTS SPIRIT.
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by soumendu paul on Apr 28, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
I hope everybody has noticed DRAVID's body language in wc. This body language does not work out to qualify super 8 or playing finals. Just review the past captain's body languages...u will get the answer. ....u farter.
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 22, 2007 01:14 AM Permalink
FOR YOU KIND INFORMATION MR. SUMAN BHAT PLEASE CHECK YOU FACTS FIRST BEFORE TELLING LIES TO SUITS YOUR ARGUMENT. GANGULY WAS ICC TOP 10 ODI RANKING FOR MORE THAN A YEAR. PLEASE CHECK http://www.lgiccrankings.com/test/batting/player-display.php?id=2141. HE IS STILL 36 soon come up in top if DRAVID can let him play .
India lost in WC because of Dravid not anyone else
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Lack of commitment, fighting spirit, negative body language, playing for self recores, to cement place for next matches, sponsers, poor fielding, trying to expose each on the field, promoting groupism etc.. Has coach told instructed for all these?? chappell's big mistake was he treated all players alike, equally and push the players from comfort zone. many superstars were taken their placed for granted.... winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players on the field irrepective of coach, captain, pitch and conditions. SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect the ganguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell but both players may not play WC2011 tee taht t
If Rahul had really said that to the Board, then the BCCI should have named a Junior as the captain (Yuvaraj, Dinesh Karthick, or someone whose place is certain) and left the seniors to maintain their places based on their performances. They have done it before when they named Mohd. Azharuddin as the skipper in the late eighties. Azhar had three ex captains in his team, i.e., Kapil, Vengsarkar and Srikanth. In a country like India where cricket is more than a game, the leader of the team has to be mentally strong, apart from possesing the other necessary qualities.
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 06:22 PM Permalink
But the problem is nobody in the list you said are not so accomplished players and BCCI donot have guts to make such decisions. If SA can make G.Smith as a captain , why cant we make somebody like Yuvraj or Dhoni a captain and ask all seniors to play under them by giving an extended period of arround one year to the new captain?
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by Faceless Spirit on Apr 21, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
The Board the captain and the captain's fans all are stinking and farting in joy. The entire place is full of foul smell.
India will return loser from Bangla outing. The great captain shall silently pass three more farts in joy again.
Only new player is Manoj. He will not be given any chance to play and be dropped again. The scheme is such that they will call Tendulkar agin but won't give chance to Ganguly.
Farting captain is farting all over the places with his farting fans who write long eulogies on this joker Rahul.
Bare his back and cane him with an oil soaked cane stick 10000 times.
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 22, 2007 12:16 AM Permalink
Take out dravid contribution s to ganguly%u2019s succssess as captain the see his average will be lower than sahcins. At least dravid did not ditched any teammates or captain when he played under sachin and ganguly Sachin being VC is failed with bat during WC. IF he had any problem with dravid or chappell why he did not approach the board instead of media? why is always comes with headlines with against dravid ? Whatever happens to ganguly it is projected the is b%u2019cuz of dravid?How can a ganguly%u2019s performance helped the team ?? His 129-ball 66 against Bangladesh, 114-ball 89 against Bermuda, and 23-ball 7 against Sri Lanka conveyed the impression that he was more concerned with making runs for himself than the team. Poor fielding, poor running between wkt, and unwilling to take singles not rotating strke etc.. It seems that some section of Bengal media, whatever bad/ failure happened to ganguly it is b%u2019cuz of dravid? B%u2019cuz dravid made captain from last 20 months? Why ur reliable sources could find out about back stage politics of ganguly?/
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by evelyn abraham on Apr 21, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
Ganguly is the not the answer to the captaincy problems..At this time picking Ganguly as a captain would be the worst thing that could happen to Indian cricket..Ok i agree 192 is a defendable total..What can Rahul Dravid do if the bowlers don't play well..In the end Dravid is being made scapegoat..
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
Captain always need not be so Aggressive. See Stephen flemming, he is a clever, cool captain who dont show any emotions in his face. If thw whole team fails, the captain cannot do anything. See the way we bowled against Bangaldesh, we cant defend even 300 agaisnt Bangladesh.
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 07:20 PM Permalink
Dravid is not a powerful leader and has no respect from the existing senior players. That%u2019s why he is looking for new players who will be grateful for the chance in the team. He is too introvert & self centered to be a captain. For his selfish act and self interest he turned the 'Team India' to a collection of great players. If you can not build a team then you can not be a team leader. Without a %u201Cteam%u201D you can't win.
Sourav had built the team and used get 110% from a player that is the sign of a great leader while Dravid gets only 25% of someone%u2019s potential. We could defend lost against Bangladesh because %u2013 1. Wrong team selection, Kumble should have picked, why Uthappa & Sehwag both in the team what was their individual role as a batsman in the team throughout the WC?? Why Dravid is not in number 3? 2. Munaf who just had a 5 wicket haul in the previous game should have started the bowling or should have brought in attack within first 5 overs, seeing other two are not performing. 3. Should have used Harbhajan, Sehwag, Sachin & Yuvraj lot early after seeing the Bangladesh spinners. 4. Why nourishing Irfan for last two years to make him India%u2019s trump card in WC and not using him at all? THE BIGGEST MANAGEMENT BLUNDER OF ALL TIME IN CRICKET HISTORY!!!
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 07:59 PM Permalink
you canot blame only Dravid here. decisions such are the decisions taken in the team meeting and coach, captain, vice cpatina and senior players will decide the strategies. Team selection, bowling changes, strategies like whom to bowl in the opneing position all will be discussed as part of the Team meeting.
RE:BCCI stop fooling public and take some responsibility
by Faceless Spirit on Apr 21, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
The Board the captain and the captain's fans all are stinking and farting in joy. The entire place is full of foul smell.
India will return loser from Bangla outing. The great captain shall silently pass three more farts in joy again.
Only new player is Manoj. He will not be given any chance to play and be dropped again. The scheme is such that they will call Tendulkar agin but won't give chance to Ganguly.
Farting captain is farting all over the places with his farting fans who write long eulogies on this joker Rahul.
Bare his back and cane him with an oil soaked cane stick 10000 times.
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
dravid played under captaincy of sachin and ganguly and gve 100% commitment and performance for the team. He did not promote groupism but ganguly and sachin betryed him espeically during WC ganguly is selfish, oppertunist politican should be out team
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 22, 2007 12:18 AM Permalink
Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI Indian cricket needs Chappell: Tiger Pautidi he was trying to bring in Indian cricked was kind of shift to the emphasis from individual flair and brilliance to a kind of teamwork - which Australia are so good at - which is why he was actually invited to this country. http://www.cricketnext.com/news/indian-cricket-needs-chappell-pataudi/24441-14.html Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779
Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.html was what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'
Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI
that contributed to our losses against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka." http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 22, 2007 01:16 AM Permalink
"Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs"
U R RIGHT THAT's why Sehwag & Uthappa in Team without scoring
If Rahul had really said that to the Board, then it is time for the BCCI should have named a Junior as the captain (Yuvaraj, Dinesh Karthick, or someone whoe place is certain) and left the seniors to maintain their places based on their performances. They have done it before when they named Mohd. Azharuddin as the skipper in the late eighties. Azhar had three ex captains in his team, i.e., Kapil, Vengsarkar and Srikanth.
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 06:01 PM Permalink
Azhar got rid of them very cleverly dravid is just following the same path ( less cleverly? )
Dravid has no respect from the existing senior players. That%u2019s why he is looking for new players who will be grateful for the chance in the team. He is too introvert & self centered to be a captain.
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 05:47 PM Permalink
But the problem is nobody in the list you said are not so accomplished players and BCCI donot have guts to make such decisions. If SA can make G.Smith as a captain , why cant we make somebody like Yuvraj or Dhoni a captain and ask all seniors to play under them by giving an extended period of arround one year to the new captain?
There are a lot of things that were spoken here about Dravid was not comfortable with seniors? He want them out and so on.
The manager of the Indian team in WC has submitted a secret report to the BCCI which was not disclosed saying that its the seniors like Sachin, Saurav especially Saurav divided the team as pro chappel/dravid and anti dravid/chappel teams and the anti dravid/chappel team led by Saurav deliberately played badly so that the coach goes off and Captain will go and finally Saurav will be given the captaincy again.
Manager submitted a detailed report about wt ever Saurav did like not taking the advise of the dressing room to play fast against Bangladesh, SMSs sent by him to media about the team composition, and when Dravid told Saurav wt to do, Saurav replied back arrogantly saying I was the Indian team captain before and you need not tell anything and so on............
BCCI wants to teach a lesson to Saurav, but fearing a backslash by CAB (Sapura%u2019s state association) included Sachin also in the people who are removed, but has put a polite word rested. :):):)
This happened to lakshman also. The senior players especially Saurav had always has fear that Lakshman will be the next captaincy candidate as he was playing well in the test matches and has a lot of experience as a captain and Selectors once thought of removing Saurav as a test captain and make Lakshman test side captain as Saurav was struggling to get runs in the test matches. Saurav slowly tried to eliminate lakshman encouraging Yuvraj as the test batsman and fought hard to replace lakshman in the test side. This is the reason why lakshman was a never a constant members of the team despite of his good show whenever he gets chance.
Politics always played and plays and still will play in the selection of the players and the way cricket is played in India because the bosses of the BCCI were always either businessmen or politicians.
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
Seems like you have full access to this so called 'secret' not %u2018disclosed%u2019 report. Why not post it for general public to prove your imaginative points. Otherwise I can talk about so many meetings taken place between Dravid, Greg & More to throw Ganguly out of the team but I have no proof to show ...
Only in India we sack our most successful captain after a series win while the captain scored a ton in his last test innings. But we keep our captain (and probably our coach too if he wanted to stay) after such a measurable performance in world cup, champions trophy and so on%u2026 Why we were out of Champions trophy in the first round as well? We had young team, NO GANGULY, perfect home pitch, world most successful & intelligent Captain Mr.Rahul Dravid and the best strategist Guru Greg Chappell? Why same for the ODIs in SA?
We only started wining after Ganguly joined started scoring runs and up lift the team moral
RE:Saurav, the Great manipulator
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
I may not have a full access to the report, but if you have seen SETMax and ESPN just 2 days after the BCCI meeting, you will know wt I am speaking. Charu sharma and Harsha Bhogle touched these points. John wright who is commentating in SetMax at that time said its a common phenomenon in INdian Cricket and Ravi in that program categorically denied to answer and discuss the report because he is officially the manager of Indian Cricket TEam. :)
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 07:31 PM Permalink
I also heard that Dravid sent Dinesh kartkic at least four times to Ganguly saying he has to try hitting a 'Six' in each ball in Bermuda match? How good of a captaincy is that? First you have to trust your teammate, their motive and their judgement.
If you can not do that then you will be like the case Mughal Samrat Aurangajeb..where you can not trust anyone.
Remember Rahul in his early days of one day? where he could not able to scored runs quickly and used to put the team in pressure? Did Sourav question his intension? That's not how you run a team...
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 07:36 PM Permalink
Dravid was removed from the team at that time and was asked to refine the game. He went back, played alot of ranji games, did worked hard and came back with his pure hard work.
RE:Saurav, the Great manipulator
by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
Dravid was never droped. Sourav new how good a player he was ...convinced the player kept him in the team...created his position by asking to keep wicket..Actually Dravid status as a batsman in one day changed after that when he was assured of his place in the team...
RE:Saurav, the Great manipulator
by Abhijit Roy on Apr 22, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
RAHUL IS AT PRESENT INDIA'S BEST BATSMAN, BEST VICE CAPTAIN(very good cricket brain)AND WORST CAPTAIN(cannot controll the team).
I really don't see any necessary to blame dravid for the selection..The channels reported that dravid was not comfortable with the seniors and hence he did not want them and it was all decided in the meeting..If so y did vengsarkar call them before the meeting and inform them..And also y was there a news saying that sachin and sourav will be dropped for the tour even 3 days prior to the meeting..I am not trying to support dravid but just being logical and trying to think rationally.. If it is this then i think they had already decided before dravid even entered the meeting that ganguly and sachin should be dropped..I think the BCCI is using dravid as a scapegoat and trying to blame him for all their decisions and justifying that nothing is wrong in their part.. This was done even before the WC started by vengsarkar that dravid wanted sehwag and the funny part in this was that Sehwag was the top scorer..BCCI is just trying to justify it and blame their decisions on someone else..
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 05:44 PM Permalink
thats wt BCCI do always. when they wanted say endorsmenets are the real reasons for players not performaing, they said the former captains told this to BCCI. when media asked all the captians who attended the BCCI meeting, everybody denied saying so. So Wt BCCI does is it decides on something, takes the decison and endorses somebody to take the decison and have the later consequences of the Decision and BCCI runs away from the decision. :)
Politics always played and plays and still will play in decision making process because the bosses of the BCCI were always either busienssmen or politiciians.
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by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 05:58 PM Permalink
Dravid is not a powerful leader and has no respect from the existing senior players. That%u2019s why he is looking for new players who will be grateful for the chance in the team. He is too introvert & self centered to be a captain. For his selfish act and self interest he (with the help from another two similar minded person Greg& More ) turned the 'Team India'( inherited from great Ganguly era) to a collection of great players. If you can not build a team then you can not be a team leader. Without a %u201Cteam%u201D you can't win. Consequently we dropped from ICC ranking 2 to 6. He has no influencing power and does not have any charisma to be a captain. He himself understands that. That%u2019s why now he got another a couple of south colleagues (Prasad & Sing) to get the help, support and the %u201Cpower%u201D to make the players agree to his silly plans. Remember if that plain fails he will complain like a child that his players didn%u2019t support him.
A person who can%u2019t lead himself how can he lead 1.2 billion people ?
RE:Blaming Dravid
by evelyn abraham on Apr 21, 2007 06:07 PM Permalink
This is supporting one player and undermining the other..Just take the stupid NDTV story where they reported abt rahul dravid's selection drama..Read the story and you will c two different sets of remarks..Let me highlight it to u. NDTV said that sources close to the BCCI informed them that dravid was not comfortable with the senior player..If so y did vengsarkar call both sachin and sourav before the match and inform them. and one more thing which seems to be totally opposite selectors were very unhappy with the BCCI's directive to rest Sachin Tendulkar and Sourav Ganguly for the one-dayers but they had no choice but to toe the line. If this is the reason y blame dravid.. India won under ganguly becoz all the players were in good form..Under Dravid no one seems to be in form the bowlers or the batsman..He never complained that the players did not support him..This is what the media is doing..Setting up the people against cricket becoz v people are stupid enough to believe them..
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by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 06:21 PM Permalink
These senior players dont respect Dravid because he is a perfecionist and always pushes others to be the same. So called seniors are always in a comfort zone and dont want to come out of that Comfort Zone. If somebody like Greg or dravid or previous Coach John Wright wanted to change them and challenge their status-co, their ego gets hurt and thats why they dont like dravid.
Dravid is the most talented, humble and a storng team man We have even seen in the last 10 years. He took the pain of keeping wickets also when Saurav and John wright asked him to do because he thoguht thats good for Indian Team. Remmebr howmany times, he stood like a wall between indian defeat. The best way to llok at his compare the 4th innings scores and averages of Dravid, Lakshman, Sachin and Saurav in the test matches. Dravid has the highest 4th innings average of 35 among 4 of them, lakshman comes next, Sachin next and Saurav last. The greatness of a players is evidnt when he scores an match saving innings or atleast prevent humiliating defeats and Dravid is one of them. so called Greats like Sachin, saurav or even Sunil gavaskar doesnt have a good 4th innings score because they never played well under pressue and saved the team from the defeat.If a team collpase on a 5th day 4th innins sachin/Saurav will be the first wicket to go with Dravid at the wicket struggling to build an innings. Howmany times we have seen this? Be frank.
RE:Blaming Dravid
by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 07:44 PM Permalink
Dravid is our all time great batsman by miles there is no question about that. But is not a great leader, a leader always stands by his team member and fight against others first then sort it out internally. Just like Imran or Sourav. Sourav always backed Yuvraj/ harbhjan aaianst the board for displinary actions. That's how he earned the respect of the players, even when he was not scoring and holding up a place in the team.
RE:Blaming Dravid
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
wt dravid did now? Did he talked anything against any player in the press? He always stood by the team and he himself took the full responsibility for the WC debacle. Did any other members (Other than Sachin) spoke in press accpeting the responsibility? I dont know wt he did wrong to take away from the captaincy. WC failure is a failure and its a team failure and its time to rebuild and look to the future.
Dravid still backs all of his team memebrs. thats why Sehwag was playing in WC even he is not in form. Harbhazan was choosen infront of Kumble because we ll know he has talent, but not delivering. He stood by vuthappa even if he is not scoring consistently because he beleives utappa has talent and its only matter of time Utappa gets experince and becomes more matured player.
Wt more you want? Does anybody saw dravid speaking any small word against players?
RE:Blaming Dravid
by Faceless Spirit on Apr 21, 2007 08:59 PM Permalink
The Board the captain and the captain's fans all are stinking and farting in joy. The entire place is full of foul smell.
India will return loser from Bangla outing. The great captain shall silently pass three more farts in joy again.
Only new player is Manoj. He will not be given any chance to play and be dropped again. The scheme is such that they will call Tendulkar agin but won't give chance to Ganguly.
Farting captain is farting all over the places with his farting fans who write long eulogies on this joker Rahul.
Bare his back and cane him with an oil soaked cane stick 10000 times.
RE:Blaming Dravid
by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 10:01 PM Permalink
What is Dravid's position in Greg Vs Sachin, Geeg Vs Sourav,. Even Greg made comments about Yuvraj, Sehwag ..Did he defend anyone publicly? Ever made a statement my players are the best ...that's how you grain trust from your team mates...Not by keeping silent and let them fight their own battle...you hv to be a father figure to be a leader ...
RE:Blaming Dravid
by harrycheema on Apr 22, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
Dear Upadrasta in world cup in both matches against Bangla Desh and Sri Lanka Dravid came to bat after Ganguli and had lot of time to play and stand between India and defeat.But he could not do anything.We did not see the wall anywhere.And did you not see the way he threw his wicket against Lanka and gifted the match to them.
RE:Totally Biased
by shahjehan on Apr 21, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
AFTER THEIR HARDWORK IN WEST INDIES, BCCI DECIDED TO KEEP THEM REST. THEIR CENTURIES AGAINST SRILANKA & BANGLADESH - A TREAT TO WATCH FOR ALL OUR CRICKET LOVERS. SO CERTAINLY THEY NEED FOR REST.
AND I PRAY TO ALMIGHTY- MAY THEIR SOULS REST IN PEACE RESPECTIVELY.
RE:RESTED FOR WHAT....
by shahjehan on Apr 21, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
AFTER THEIR HARDWORK IN WEST INDIES, BCCI DECIDED TO KEEP THEM REST. THEIR CENTURIES AGAINST SRILANKA & BANGLADESH - A TREAT TO WATCH FOR ALL OUR CRICKET LOVERS. SO CERTAINLY THEY NEED FOR REST.
AND I PRAY TO ALMIGHTY- MAY THEIR SOULS REST IN PEACE RESPECTIVELY.
