RE:The Board the captain and the captain's fans all are stinking and farting in joy.
by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
Have your ever thought of your stinking racist smell? Feeling really sorry for you as you have really nothing else in your life to celebrate for
Where is the column for strike rate in the table?It is a pity if the author does not know the importance of strike rate in one day cricket.It outweighs the 'average' in most cases.
RE:Strike rate
by deepa on Apr 21, 2007 08:42 PM Permalink
SACHIN & SOURAV R NOT RESTED. THEY R SACKED. CONGRATS TO BCCI FOR SELECTING A YOUNG TEAM WITH MONGIA,SACHIN,SOURAV, RAHUL & SEHWAG. RAINA,KAIF,PATHAN & BADRINATH R VERY OLD PLAYERS FOR BCCI.
RE:RE:foolish Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi
by Harish Bhatia on Apr 21, 2007 09:17 PM Permalink
Bappa Maiti - May be he's your actual father. Take a DNA. Then say "peiri pena papa" Baagban Ishtyle . . Chuckle Chuckle . . I am so smart !!
RE:foolish Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi
by Upadrasta PardhaSaradhi on Apr 21, 2007 08:29 PM Permalink
Everybody has the right to express his own ideas and opinions. If you dont like them , skip reading them.
I feel this is the worst the selectors could do. On one hand they say rest and on the other hand they say "youngsters". Rahul Dravid has played so much cricket himself, so why not give him rest. What about Dhoni? He too needs rest. Yuvraj could have been the captain for this tour and Rahul, Sachin, Ganguly, Dhoni rested. This in turn would have given some more youngsters a chance. Bringing back Mongia is no problem, but then more youngsters could have been selected. Poor Pathan, I feel he should have been, since this is the right time to groom him. Bangladesh is easy target, I am sure that India will THRASH them and avenge the world cup loss.
India should thrash Bangladesh as WI did in 1983. Bashar has spoken more than what he should have. Losing a match does not make INDIA or Pakistan inferior to Bangladesh and Ireland.
The selection deserves much to b talked about.May b under pressure and out of haste inorder to overcomethe current trauma,the selectors hav favoured some written-off players a relife to once again ship the prestige of the nation.Many reasons may b attributed but in the end what is going to happen we allknow.The team is not going to do any big to reverse the debacle.Old wine in new bottle.Gutless and soineless selectors chaired by a timid cowardwho has subjected to the influence of the powerbigs.What is the use of crying & clamouring for justice in the gamenow. A hapless BCCI, helpless fans and a hopeless team.How else to describe the situation.In the process,we aremaking onedulkars/duckdulkars only.Any way indian fans please putup with the torture once again as we have no say against the mafia gangs that rule the game.Better boycot seeing the matches but know from media of the shameful results.Best way to console & comfort ourselves.
BCCI is playing politics to play by common people%u2019s emotion. They are trying to divert the attention from the actual fact that under the combined effort of this BCCI management and captaincy of Rahul Dravid India has slipped down to ICC ranking 6, from ICC ranking 2.
We got out in fist round of world cup, champions trophy and after continuous defeat and putting the country down Rahul Dravid is still the Captain. There is no change in the BCCI management. For world cup we are putting the senior players as scapegoats without saying the current team management and BCCI had two years to short out things and they failed measurably.
We already used the same strategy of trying young players under the experienced captain in last champions trophy. We had young team, BCCI%u2019s successful & intelligent Captain Mr.Rahul Dravid and the best strategist Guru Greg Chappell? No Ganguly or Sachin and home ground, but still we could not go to the second round. Why might get away with the team against Bangladesh but it not going work in long term and the selectors themselves saying they need bring the seniors against the strong teams.
We lost in WC cup because we didn%u2019t had any clear strategy and the players were not given any role as a part of bad management and we didn%u2019t pick the right team. Under a different team management this team could have gone to semi-final easily.
BCCI only interested to show who control the players and who are in charge. Not to help or listen to the players or to sort out the long term problems of Indian cricket.
BCCI is busy hiding the fact that they have foolishly sacked their most successful captain Ganguly after a series win, while he scored a century in his last test innings. They talked about the so called %u2018taking the team to next level%u2019. Fact is from ICC ranking 2 we are now at 6 but at the same time they are keeping the captain (and probably could have kept our coach too if he wanted to stay) after such a measurable performance in world cup, champions trophy and so on.
Unless some under hand deal is going on how this is possible. Look at all the nations who couldn%u2019t do well in WC they are changing the team management first %u2013 Pakistan, WI, England.
This BCCI management & Rahul Dravid has taken the team to the next level but not in the upward curve. They have successfully transformed the 'Team India' ( inherited from great Ganguly era) to a collection of some great players. Without a %u201Cteam%u201D you can't win. If you can not build a team then you can not be a team leader. That is point where Dravid lacks considerably he is not a leader but a great follower. He has no respect from the existing senior players now. We should leave him to do the job he does best, batting for India and bring us glory. We should pick someone will fit chair of captaincy of Indian team and accpetable to everyone. Yuvraj is the best but BCCI will not make him captain for not cricket related issue
RE:RE:Indian Cricket %u2013 A postmortem and facts.
by Ramesh Saripalli on Apr 21, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
How surprising that bengalis cannot think beyond ganguly?
RE:Indian Cricket %u2013 A postmortem and facts.
by SANJAY GUHATHAKURTA on Apr 21, 2007 10:53 PM Permalink
Saripalli -- from the South -- blind folded. How surprising that the South cannot think beyond idlis and the idli-brained Dravid.
But for a change, you guys "think". That's good enough.
Why can't you accept that Rahul Dravid is not at all a good leader? And why don't you accept that Sourav Ganguly -- irrespective of he being a captain or not -- IS the leader. I know its a bitter pill....but that's truth.
RE:RE:RE:Indian Cricket %u2013 A postmortem and facts.
by Sandipan Gupta on Apr 21, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
Please don't judge the Bengalis or for that matter, any other community, based on the people who post their messages in this forum.
RE:RE:RE:Indian Cricket %u2013 A postmortem and facts.
by Rahul Roy on Apr 21, 2007 09:39 PM Permalink
You R dead right, as the whole INDIA and BCCI & people like you still can not think beyond Rahul Dravid. Who is delivering nothing but failures matches after matches....We atleast back the proven WINNER not the proven Looser
RE:RE:RE:Indian Cricket %u2013 A postmortem and facts.
by satyadev gowda on Apr 23, 2007 01:15 AM Permalink
Neither do Kanadigas beyond Hosur,Tamilians beyond Coimbatore and Telugus beyond Secunderabad.....dont be acting so pure friend.
RE:Indian Cricket %u2013 A postmortem and facts.
by Suman Bhat on Apr 23, 2007 01:00 PM Permalink
Lack of commitment, fighting spirit, negative body language, playing for self recores, to cement place for next matches, sponsers, poor fielding, trying to expose each on the field, promoting groupism etc.. Has coach told instructed for all these?? chappell's big mistake was he treated all players alike, equally and push the players from comfort zone. many superstars were taken their placed for granted.... winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players on the field irrepective of coach, captain, pitch and conditions. SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect the ganguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell but both players may not play WC2011 tee taht t
Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI
Indian cricket needs Chappell: Tiger Pautidi he was trying to bring in Indian cricked was kind of shift to the emphasis from individual flair and brilliance to a kind of teamwork - which Australia are so good at - which is why he was actually invited to this country. http://www.cricketnext.com/news/indian-cricket-needs-chappell-pataudi/24441-14.html
Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779
Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.html was what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'
Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI
that contributed to our losses against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka." http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms
I think BCCI had made wrong decision by dropping Sachin, Saurav and Pathan. In cricket age factor should not be considered only performance should be considered. See in Australian team only aged performed will. Australians looked for performance in the team thatz why they are the strong contenters of this world cup. Our team needs experienced players as well as talented young players. Failing in 2 matches does not tell that sachin is out of form. one should remember sachin was man of series of the last series played.
As a cricket fan I have carefully gone thru the discussion on the WC debacle the changes in the team etc.Let us forget the match against BanglaDesh in the WC as it seems to queer the pitch in taking clear decisions.First of all Dravid as captain can lead by example as he can hold his place by virtue of his batting.Nobody can dispute that.Does he have leadership qualities?It looks like he has to deal with Ganguly,Yuvraj for their attitude.He has to deal with Sachin for being childish.He has to deal with Sehwag for being foolish very often.In all this we miss performance when it matters.There is no doubt Sachin is a shadow of himself having watched him ever since he came on the scene.Ganguly against good attacks bottles up one end adds pressure.Dravid was guilty of this earlier but he has improved.A good team does not crack up if they lose 2 wkts upfront.The rest shd handle the situatio.The Indian position is that only one among the rest usually Dravid stands and plays.This is serious and needs to be addressed.The target shd be that 1,2,3,4 batsmen shd fire at all times failing perhaps once in a bluemoon.We don't have this.So let us build for the future with Robin,Sehwag,Dinesh Karthik and Manoj Tiwary.Let them score well with80% strike rate at least 75% of all the times they bat or else move them out and try others.Others could be Pujara,Gambhir{again one last time},Yusuf Pathan and Rohit Sharma.Like Australia we should ease out the tired and done with.Damien Martyn was the classic case-the game has to go forward.The batting spots 1234 have to be the key.On bowling a pace attack with Zaheer,Sreesanth,Munaf seems ok.Both Munaf and Zaheer have to be on the watch list for fitness and attitude.All three should step up their batting skills under strict watch.Munaf has to be guided on fielding, attitude etc.The spinners spot is a problem.We can try Romesh Pawar but he looks over the hill and shows bad attitude in batting.Over the long haul it has to be him or Piyush Chawla.Harbajan looks spent.India has to come up with a wicket taking spinner like Brad Hogg or Jeetan Patel.The other thing is every batsman in the team needs to hone up on his bowling skills.This has to be insisted upon.Take SL or NZ the do this very well.The selectors have been very timid in their approach not wanting to ruffle feathers.Vengsarkars attitude is dismal.He has no intensity no josh.He was like that in his playing days.He also seems an awful communicator.A bised selection policy in favour of regions results in Gambhir,R.P.Singh,VRV Singh,Mongia getin despite clear lack of ability.Selectors shd give a run of 5 innings to each guy and if he does not come good75% of the time keep him out.Let them get better before they merit a look in again.It is sad to see Indian cricket go this way.I shudder to think of India going to Aus end of this year and next.Let Sachin and Saurav sit out clear thir cobwebs and if they are good enough on current performance on proper intl standard pitches come back.The point is that they have to be good and not rest on thir laurels with a demigod status.That era is over.Performance alone should count at this point and not history and statistics.
RE:Re:Team Selection for Bangla tour
by Nandu R on Apr 21, 2007 07:29 PM Permalink
When you make whole changes You will try one bunch who cant perform after couple of series. then try again whole new bunch who cant perform after couple of series. Only trying new combination will be there but the result is not going to change. People expect karthick to have 20 average to be in the team. People expect dravid to have 35 average to be in the team. People expect ganguly to have 40 average to be in the team. People expect sachin to have 100 average to be in the team. Only brainless morons can have such standards. If you still think u have any brain left see how much sachin averages from ODI matches in Kulalumpur DLF Cup.Sachin averages 41.23 with 2 century, where as dravid averages 37.31 with no century. I still wonder how brainless morons like you support dravid and bash sachin. Can you please tell me how many great batsman who has averages above 40 in the last one year. Substandard people, emotional fans, brainless supports, Cunmen in BCCI, Jokers as selectors. What else can we expect from a country like India?. When people can keep laloo prasad yadav in power for 20 years in India. How can we expect any great from the same Indian public when it comes to cricket.
