Even a ranji trophy captain or a state captain could have played better cricket than Dravid during the match against Bangladesh. Think when the opener Hamim was coming out of the crease and hitting the ball even myself was telling that the keeper should come near the stumps. Why Dravid didnt think? Why dont the bowler think? they say they have played plenty of cricket. Where is the experience when u r not using it at proper time. Dravid is a clear flop as a captain. I thought the board is going to give dravid, tendulkar, dhoni (i feel his hair is obstructing the view of the ball, it(HAIR) is only good for the advertising), ganguly a break for the bangladesh tour. But instead it cut the match fees and restored the same flop players. What action is taken against shewag? Why the board has not asked Dravid's explanation for not including Shreeshanth and karthik in the crucial match against Srilanka? What is the use of agarkar and harbajan in the side. Why tendulkar was given so many chance? Just for boosting his wallet!!!!. I honestly request the board to scrap tendulkar, dhoni, shewag, agarkar and harbajan from the national side. Let them prove in ranji trophy, etc. and then reselected in the national side.
RE:POOR CAPTAINCY
by Suman Bhat on Apr 10, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
captaincy myth when dravid made captain team was broken ship and ranked NO8th in ICC rankingnow even after so many defeats it is ranked NO 6th( till yesterday's varified) dravid is still No 12th in odi ranking . Indian captains in ODIs
Names Matches Won Lost Drawn/Tied Won%
Kapil Dev 74 40 32 2 54.05% M Azharuddin 173 89 76 6/2 51.45% SR Tendulkar 73 23 43 6/1 31.51% SC Ganguly 146 76 65 &nbs p; 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% dravid led team lesser no of matches and winning average is only 1.22% less than ganguly's success as captain b'cuz ganguly had advantage of leading team more nos of mathces and more lengthier period. Ganguly had god father called dalmiya and full support of bcci but dravid is criticized by chief slectore board officials etc%u2026 India team early exit is b%u2019cuz of dirty negative criket played delebartely by some senior player and chappell had guts to raise issue all senior players are responsible for WC debacle. Some players deliberately played negative cricket and gifted match to Bangladesh.IF players wer not ready to support team cause or captian, why blame captain and coach?? Many ppl say dravid is not inspirational captain and ganguly had that spark If players has to decide to play for team cause or self. And motivation /inspriration can be attained by self attempt ( by positive thinking and right mindset) captain can only tell but individual player has to believe in self strength. In big event like WC if players can get motivated to play negative cricket why can%u2019t they inspire to play for team???
were not ready to play for team cause, then how can captain Ganguly%u2019s media ageing singing one song dravid chapelll should go sachin should retire and ganguly should be captain and yuvraj make VC After his come back ganguly is playing for self to save his wkt and cement his place not even one performance did not for team cause. He is selfish oppertuinst and promote groupism no media makes noise about his dadagiri. Ganguly did not return with team, but when he arrived next day he was not in team uniform but some channel was highlighting it was warm return attitude%u2026.etc.. whole team is responsible for loss and why coach and captain made scapegoat If captain and coach has to go then sachin ganguly sewag zahirkahn harban, dhoni also be out of team
sunil gavaskar, kapildev, A gaikwad, GR vishwanath, chetan chauhan, kiran more, have supported dravid continue as captian
RE:POOR CAPTAINCY
by siva kumar on Apr 10, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
i VERY MUCH AGREE THAT SACHIN GANGULY, SEWAG, ZAHIR AND DHONI SHOULD BE OUT OF TEAM. tHEY HAVE TO FIRST PROVE THEIR BASICS IN THE RANJI TROPHY MATCH AND THEN GET SELECTED ALONG WITH OTHERS. THE SCORES SCORED BY SACHIN IN ALL THE THREE MATCHES CAN BE EASILY SCORED BY ANY 11TH PLAYER OF ANY TEAM. I AM NOT JOKING. IT IS FACT. IF WE HAVE TO WIN MATCHES WE HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT COMBINATION. NOT PLAYERS WHO HAVE 14,000 RUNS AND NOT SCORING A SINGLE MATCH. tHOUGH GANGULY PLAYED FOR HIMSELF HE SCORED MOST RUNS IN ALL THE THREE MATCHES. HOW CAN U CALL HIM SELFISH. LET IT BE FOR HIS CAUSE, HE SCORED RUNS AND INDIA NEEDS RUNS. WHY PLAYERS LIKE RAHUL SEWAG DIDNOT PLAY FOR THEIR CAUSE ATLEAST. THEY KNOW THEY WILL NOT BE DROPPED FROM THE TEAM. I SUPPOSE THEY MUST BE THROWN OUT OF THE TEAM. DONT COMPARE CAPTAINCY ISSUE WITH OTHERS. HIS CAPTAINCY AGAINST BANGLADESH AND SRILANKA IS VERY POOR AND HIS TEAM SELECTION AND FIELD PLACEMENT IS ALSO VERY POOR. WHY HE BACKS SEWAG AND UTTAPA? HE SHOULD HAVE REPLACED THEM BY SRISHANTH AND KARTHIK. DRAVID PLS GO OUT OF THE TEAM FOR THE GOOD OF INDIAN CRICKET. AND PLEEEEEEEEEEEEASE SACHIN JUMP OUT OF CRICKET AND ACT IN BOOST ADVERTISEMENT.
RE:POOR CAPTAINCY
by Jarnail singh on Apr 10, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
very right dear, if they could have restricted hamim from bashing indian teams fortune would have been different. no slazing, no bouncer and thinking someone will come from heaven and save them.
RE:Bengalis are great..
by Sandeep on Apr 10, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Tell you what..Our regionalism leads to our downfall. No wonder in western world Indians are know to have crab mentality. It is a pity that we support our Idols to such an extent that they become Gods and all their wrong doings are just forgotten.. for eg Sidhu still free after killing the person, Salman Khan (needs no Introduction) and Ganguli (Still thought of the best batsman cricket has ever produced by people of WB)
RE:Bengalis are great..
by Riaz on Apr 10, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
Didn't explain my argument though. Right or wrong. Atleast Bengali's have a united stand. Right can be made wrong and vice versa depends on how you argue your case in unity. Sachin would have been made the CM had he been bengali.
YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN FOR INDIAN TEAM. DRAVID IS USELESS IN DEALING WITH SENIOR PLAYERS. ALL SENIOR PLAYERS DIDN'T SUPPORT DRAVID IN THE WORLDCUP, ALL OF THEM WERE PLAYING FOR THEMSELF ONLY. SPECIALLY GANGULY, AND SO HE GOT A WARM WELCOME IN CALCUTTA. BANGALI PEOPLE ARE SELFISH AND THEY ARE THINKING ABOUT BANGAL ONLY NOT FOR THEIR COUNTRY.
RE:YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN
by on Apr 10, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
I do not know how people can so easily regionalise the whole issue. I am not a Bengalee - but i would like to point out what ever it may be - but Sourav Ganguly played well - and we cannot deny that!! Even if he has played for himself. Tell me one other player in the team who has played for himself - leave apart the team. Actually apart from the match against Bermuda ( which is a near equivalent to India D team - if ever there was a team so formed) .... show me one player who has player.
I feel we need to put forward our opinions based on practicality and not just what we feel at the spur of the moment...
RE:YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN
by SUSIKTA CHAUDHURI on Apr 10, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Don't pass any stupid comments here. what u know abt bengali's freedom struggle. U r sick man. Shame on you!!!!
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by on Apr 10, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
Both of you are completely way off topic!!
Ganguly has played well... No doubt.. we need to acknowledge the fact - infact i think all have already acknowledged the same. If he plays well - people say he has played for himself - and if he doesn't play people say that he can't play for nuts....
Ok - then let us all ask our cricketers to play for themselves atleast - so that we achieve decent totals in the scoreboard....
RE:YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN
by Subrata Roy on Apr 10, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
you talking like a stupid manners, in feature you should careful this type of thinking. ihope so you understsnd.
RE:YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN
by Rajnish Singh on Apr 10, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
This is true. Take for example Ganguly. He never plays for Nation. We all remember the politics created by Ganguly and dalmiya.
RE:YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN
by Jayanto Roy on Apr 10, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
what stupid comments? My dear friend, you are living in free India, so do you know how many Indians gave their lives in the freedom struggle & out of them how many were Bengalis? And you dare to make a general comment that Bengalis are selfish. Shame on you!!!! I really pity you & your way of thinking!
RE:YUVRAJ SHOULD BE CAPTAIN
by Suresh Yadav on Apr 10, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
They are not talking of any freedom fighters or noble bengalis. But overall today's bengalis have a myopic view of the country. They do not see any thing beyond bengal.
History will remember Dravid as a very good Model (has a pleasant personality), a Good Player (till greed him apart) , a poor Captain (Born quality). Lets not bring Ganguly into all this. Ganguly was a good player when he had confidence in 2001-2002 (Remember he was a match winner in many games). Now he should accept the fact that he is not in his usual touch and should duly retite unless ofcourse he is thinking of Ad Money. Tendulkar is hopelessly trying to get as much money from the Tax Payers (through Ads) before calling it quits. Three other A******s in line Agarkar, Harbhajan and Sehwag need to be kickedout.
RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by Durgesh Sen on Apr 10, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Dravid is best Captain India have today.
RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by Ashok on Apr 10, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Durgesh, If we have no better person than Dravid to captain India, it is better we stop playing cricket. Rather than having a completely hopeless fellow as captain.
RE:RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by Suman Bhat on Apr 10, 2007 01:35 PM Permalink
if senior playes can get negative motivation / inspiration to group against captain, and playe deliberarly negative circket and gift the match to Bangla and SL what captain can do for taht??? A horse can be taken to water force to drink but sallowing or vomitting water will be done by horse it is senior players betryed the team and captain also no cpatin can't win matches when all the members are not with the captain. Most of the matches won by India under ganguly was because of Dravid's great knock and selfless attitude by way of keeping wickets and batting like a champion!!! At any nos. but dravid trusted seniors like sachin, yuvraj ganguly zahir and bajji but backfired by these palyers IN NDTV poll 80% cricketers told dravid continue to as captain where in ndtv programme ganguly paid ageent jadeja and siddu scrreams on top voice anti dravid and pro ganguly on daily basis Cricnext.com Sanyjah 100% supporte of ganguly Should Rahul Dravid be replaced as the captain of the Indian team? And the answer was in the negative with 86 per cent saying he should not be removed with only nine per cent saying that he should be replaced. The rest five per cent did not have any opinion. Indian express pool morethan 50% ppl voted for dravid.. dravid wihot any meida chelas, politician support and dadagiri is still surviaing b'cuz of honest hardwork and performance on the field Even KNOWING very well that ravishashstri, vengi, sharad pawar all sachin boys and ganguly gang is grouped onceagain and playeing dirty politics in dressing room and cricket filed, still he accepted captaincy...one more defeat will maight end his odi careers Then HOW DO CALL HIM AS PATHATIC??? HE IS FAR BATERR CRICKERER AND COMMITED PLAYERS THAN SO CALLED SUPERSTARS WHO BPLAY BACK STAGE POLITICS AND FIGHT IN DRESSING ROOM RATHER THAN ON FILED..... Dravid is actually doing the right things & consulting the other team members in decision making.The only mistake he made is by supporting his senior team mates which has back fired on him.
no cpatin can't win matches when all the members are not with the captain. Most of the matches won by India under ganguly was because of Dravid's great knock and selfless attitude by way of keeping wickets and batting like a champion!!! At any nos. but dravid trusted seniors like sachin, yuvraj ganguly zahir and bajji but backfired by these palyers
RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by on Apr 10, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
Dravid is a spineless bloke. He let Chappell divide and rule. Never heard such blatant regionalism in earlier times under other captains. Jai Hind.
RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by Riaz on Apr 10, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Dravid is a coward. He should be kicked and publicly pasted stripping of his clothes on the road.
RE:RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by on Apr 10, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
I agree, Riaz. How about sending Dravid to the Northwest Frontier Province in Pakistan?
RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by sam dath on Apr 10, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
Ganguly should be kicked up and beaten up in roads of india. He has all started this politics in the team.
RE:Dravid - a very good Model, a Good Player, a poor Captain
by Riaz on Apr 10, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
Sorry. Time will tell. Dravid will be out soon and probably will be humiliated to death.
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by on Apr 10, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Agreed. However, as captain, Rahul Dravid should show the way. All the other 10 can be lynched thereafter.
Dravid best captain, we have. This shows the captain quality, he supports the whole team even when they are down. He has ability to bind the team again. He can show the youngsters of india, how the captain has to behave. Hats of to Dravid. You will bring sucess to India.
RE:Dravid
by shankar venkat on Apr 10, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
It is in his closet. You will not be able to find it unless you go and search .....you know where??????
RE:Dravid
by paper india on Apr 10, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
A good player, but his zeal to retain captaincy has brought India to this state. His dirty politics has divided the team and finished its morale. Still the guy is busy trying to get rid of Ganguly and Sehwag rather than uniting the team. What a shame ?
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by shankar venkat on Apr 10, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
But Dravid is the same guy who wanted Sehwag in the WC team despite his wretched form. Now that he wanted to get rid of Sehwag? Sehwag along with Harbajan should be dumbed in Indian Ocean. They are useless
RE:Dravid
by ramachandran nair on Apr 10, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
dravid has everything in him, except captaincy. He lacks leadership quality and he should be ruthleness when in the field. What we need is a thinking captain and not mere a batsman. Dravid was always depending upon Chappel as to how to go about and the result is that we were out from WC. I do not understand as to why he is being crowned / burdened again with this captaincy. This position ought to have been given to Ganguly, the most successful and proven captain.
RE:[object]
by on Apr 10, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
I somehow agree with Mr. Ramachandran - whatever it may be Ganguly is a proven captain... good success rate!!
RE:Dravid
by Suman Bhat on Apr 10, 2007 01:36 PM Permalink
if senior playes can get negative motivation / inspiration to group against captain, and playe deliberarly negative circket and gift the match to Bangla and SL what captain can do for taht??? A horse can be taken to water force to drink but sallowing or vomitting water will be done by horse it is senior players betryed the team and captain also no cpatin can't win matches when all the members are not with the captain. Most of the matches won by India under ganguly was because of Dravid's great knock and selfless attitude by way of keeping wickets and batting like a champion!!! At any nos. but dravid trusted seniors like sachin, yuvraj ganguly zahir and bajji but backfired by these palyers IN NDTV poll 80% cricketers told dravid continue to as captain where in ndtv programme ganguly paid ageent jadeja and siddu scrreams on top voice anti dravid and pro ganguly on daily basis Cricnext.com Sanyjah 100% supporte of ganguly Should Rahul Dravid be replaced as the captain of the Indian team? And the answer was in the negative with 86 per cent saying he should not be removed with only nine per cent saying that he should be replaced. The rest five per cent did not have any opinion. Indian express pool morethan 50% ppl voted for dravid.. dravid wihot any meida chelas, politician support and dadagiri is still surviaing b'cuz of honest hardwork and performance on the field Even KNOWING very well that ravishashstri, vengi, sharad pawar all sachin boys and ganguly gang is grouped onceagain and playeing dirty politics in dressing room and cricket filed, still he accepted captaincy...one more defeat will maight end his odi careers Then HOW DO CALL HIM AS PATHATIC??? HE IS FAR BATERR CRICKERER AND COMMITED PLAYERS THAN SO CALLED SUPERSTARS WHO BPLAY BACK STAGE POLITICS AND FIGHT IN DRESSING ROOM RATHER THAN ON FILED..... Dravid is actually doing the right things & consulting the other team members in decision making.The only mistake he made is by supporting his senior team mates which has back fired on him.
no cpatin can't win matches when all the members are not with the captain. Most of the matches won by India under ganguly was because of Dravid's great knock and selfless attitude by way of keeping wickets and batting like a champion!!! At any nos. but dravid trusted seniors like sachin, yuvraj ganguly zahir and bajji but backfired by these palyers
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by on Apr 10, 2007 01:44 PM Permalink
Hi Suman - I do not know how so easily you can say that Ganguly bribed sidhhu and others... Shameful to even write all of this is a public forum.
I agree that you have great admiration for Dravid. Dravid is a great player - and perhaps a pillar of Indian Cricket. But Ganguly makes a better captain lets face that. And how can he pull the strings when he was not in indian cricket scene for two years.
Your stats may be correct but you got the complete deduction wrong. Think rational.
RE:Make Sachin as ODI coach by C Mohan on Apr 10, 2007 12:54 PM India being such a big country, each state should be allowed to form its own team, which should become eligible to become a test or International ODI team.Compare it to Srilanka , bangladesh. India has potential to make atleast 5 top international teams.And there is a very less probablity of all indian teams exiting in prelim round.
RE:DRAVID HAS PROVED!
by Suman Bhat on Apr 10, 2007 01:42 PM Permalink
if the senior players go against the captain and team cause why don't u blame same players not captain Chappelll hold the mirror of dirty politics in ind cricket.Nobody speaks against the 2 superstars like ganguly and sachin ppl blame dravid is not inspriraional captain? But when players only grouped against coach and captain why do't blame the players????
sachin is legendary cricketer and great batsman But nobody is bigger than game or team. Being VC he failed with bat . ganguly and sachin have support of other playes and both had success to kick out chappell out of ind dressing room. but cric fans do not require chappell's report for the failure of WC debacle. the early exit of team from WC is b'czu of some players deliberately played the negative cricket and gifted match to bangadesh and SL .chappelll tried push the senior players from comfort zone and treated every body alike and equalthe body language, negative cricket played by some senior players is proof that they did not support dravid as captain. Even knowing all these players are not with him and ganguly is fighting from backstage for captaincy, and vengsarkar, sharad pawar, ravishastri all are with sachin dravid accepted the captaincy. also he should be aware one more defeat means it may be end of his odi career. Dravid gave 100% team when he was playing under sachin , ganguly . He did not promote gropism or never betrayed his teammates. He trusted that seniors like ganguly sachin bajii will support him. Instead may players played petty politics, let down team. It is loss for dravid, then it is loss for ganguly and sachin also. There is no guarantee that sachin amd ganguly can play next WC,
Dravid is the Best Captain India ever had. He should have been made captain long before world cup 2007 to get accimatized with the post. Given a strong team he would have won us the World Cup. Captain should not be blamed for failure nof the team. BCCI has atleast done one good thing by retaining him as the captain.
RE:BEST OF THE BEST
by pitar parkar on Apr 10, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
captain should not be blame; rather bus driver of team chappell should be blame. do you follow cricket at all? dravid was made captain long before the world cup and get his team according to vengsarkar. we have seen his captaincy in the champions trophy also. mr. chauhan is right, dravid proves how to make it in bcci's good book without performance as a captain.
RE:BEST OF THE BEST
by Suman Bhat on Apr 10, 2007 01:37 PM Permalink
if senior playes can get negative motivation / inspiration to group against captain, and playe deliberarly negative circket and gift the match to Bangla and SL what captain can do for taht??? A horse can be taken to water force to drink but sallowing or vomitting water will be done by horse it is senior players betryed the team and captain also no cpatin can't win matches when all the members are not with the captain. Most of the matches won by India under ganguly was because of Dravid's great knock and selfless attitude by way of keeping wickets and batting like a champion!!! At any nos. but dravid trusted seniors like sachin, yuvraj ganguly zahir and bajji but backfired by these palyers IN NDTV poll 80% cricketers told dravid continue to as captain where in ndtv programme ganguly paid ageent jadeja and siddu scrreams on top voice anti dravid and pro ganguly on daily basis Cricnext.com Sanyjah 100% supporte of ganguly Should Rahul Dravid be replaced as the captain of the Indian team? And the answer was in the negative with 86 per cent saying he should not be removed with only nine per cent saying that he should be replaced. The rest five per cent did not have any opinion. Indian express pool morethan 50% ppl voted for dravid.. dravid wihot any meida chelas, politician support and dadagiri is still surviaing b'cuz of honest hardwork and performance on the field Even KNOWING very well that ravishashstri, vengi, sharad pawar all sachin boys and ganguly gang is grouped onceagain and playeing dirty politics in dressing room and cricket filed, still he accepted captaincy...one more defeat will maight end his odi careers Then HOW DO CALL HIM AS PATHATIC??? HE IS FAR BATERR CRICKERER AND COMMITED PLAYERS THAN SO CALLED SUPERSTARS WHO BPLAY BACK STAGE POLITICS AND FIGHT IN DRESSING ROOM RATHER THAN ON FILED..... Dravid is actually doing the right things & consulting the other team members in decision making.The only mistake he made is by supporting his senior team mates which has back fired on him.
no cpatin can't win matches when all the members are not with the captain. Most of the matches won by India under ganguly was because of Dravid's great knock and selfless attitude by way of keeping wickets and batting like a champion!!! At any nos. but dravid trusted seniors like sachin, yuvraj ganguly zahir and bajji but backfired by these palyers Indian captains in ODIs Names Matches Won Lost Drawn/Tied Won% Kapil Dev 74 40 32 2 54.05% M Azharuddin 173 89 76 6/2 51.45% SR Tendulkar 73 23 43 6/1 31.51% SC Ganguly 146 76 65 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% ganguly captaincy advantage of leading more nos of matcges for 5 yrs) while dravid is leading team from last 16 motnths. the difference of winning average of oids under ganguly cpataincy and dravid is only 1.2% dravid many odis and tests without gangulys and tendulakar while ganguly succes was anchored by dravid and sachin laxaman and kuble. Not B'UZ OF LEADERSHIP QUALITY OR AGRESSSION One more win WC team would gone to Sleague and there won't be question of changeing captaincy. ganguly used wc event to humiliated dravid and betrayed team. ganguly deliberately played negative cricket, played big role in defeat against match bangldesh early wc exit means ganguly 's record did not harm, and prove dravid is not good captainNOW GANGULY IS ONLY RUNNING FRONT FOR CAPTAINCY RACE SIMPLY BACKSTAGE POLITICS NOT AGGRESSION OR LEADERHSHIP QUALITY
