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RE:I took my revenge against Rahul dravid and Greg Chappel
by AAA on Apr 08, 2007 01:52 PM  Permalink
exactly!! thats ganguly

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by srihari mohanty on Apr 08, 2007 02:04 PM  Permalink
read the message by sourav ganguly at 1.51 pm.that is absolutely correct.

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RE:why dravid kept as the captain ?
by srihari mohanty on Apr 08, 2007 02:01 PM  Permalink
read the message by sourav ganguly at 1.51 pm.that is absolutely correct.

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Can isolated Dravid be an effective captain?
by sudip majumder on Apr 08, 2007 01:50 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

"Dravid, undeniably a failure as leader on the field at both Tests and ODIs based on India's recent results, has also proven to be a failure as leader off the field.

Known to be a strong ally of the much-despised Greg Chappel, he remained completely silent as the obnoxious ex-coach publicly maligned cricketers who have been Rahul Dravid's colleagues for a decade. It was left to Sachin Tendulkar to defend the team from the Australian's attacks in the form of sneaky leaks to his media friends.

Now he has managed to be retained as captain despite dismal performances by the team, but at what cost? He is seen as an obedient employee of the BCCI (just as he was of Chappel.) He is not seen as trustworthy from the team's point of view."

http://www.sportnetwork.net/main/s119/st114352.htm


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RE:Can isolated Dravid be an effective captain?
by srihari mohanty on Apr 08, 2007 02:04 PM  Permalink
read the message by sourav ganguly at 1.51 pm.that is absolutely correct.

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RE:RE:Can isolated Dravid be an effective captain?
by Ifear paceman on Apr 08, 2007 02:25 PM  Permalink

Even slow scoring with Bermuda was designed to throw india out of WCBut other platers scored briskly so we survived for time being.

Bangladesh was playing with 12 players in WC win against India. whereas India played with 10 players.

Ganguly played for himself and Bangladesh.


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Dravid & Shastri - the McDisaster combo!!!
by tushar choudhury on Apr 08, 2007 01:49 PM  Permalink 

Guys, brace yourself for another defeat to bangladesh!!! this time, more than once!!! dravid has shown enough of his unimaginative captaincy, his backing of wrong players & his lack of motivational skills in the world cup! shastri will be there to whip the guys to go to bed by 10 pm so that he can have fun till dawn!! watch out guys - another disaster in a month's time!!

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RE:Yuvraj singh openly backs Tendulkar!!
by Aneesh on Apr 08, 2007 01:47 PM  Permalink
Dravid is a SHAMELESS creature! He told he was taking the responsibility of WC defeat. Then he has to resign from captaincy to show his responsibility in the defeat. Still hang around there to become captain.. bl00dy stupid fellow.

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by AAA on Apr 08, 2007 01:49 PM  Permalink
I am not adravid fan ,but infact there is no one in our teasm to be a capable captain, right now in this situation, other than dravid.
Forget about ganguly, he won't accept to be captain, he know the situation , he is smart and selfish. when everything cools down then he(ganguly ) will start to play his cards

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RE:Yuvraj singh openly backs Tendulkar!!
by AAA on Apr 08, 2007 01:41 PM  Permalink
They have no alternative rather than backing up sachin, becos of his(sachin's) hold in BCCI. If he is thrown out, these guys will be thrown out along with him.
Dravid has been guven a chance again for 3 series, which again will be tough for him becos he is again given same bunch of so called stars to play and now with experts like shastri and prasd.
Ganguly is smart enough to keep mum and see dravid's downfall. Ganguly will wait and watch and try to seize the best possible chance to be india's captain again

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RE:Yuvraj singh openly backs Tendulkar!!
by Suman Bhat on Apr 08, 2007 01:42 PM  Permalink
even knowing that all senior players are not with him and druing WC it is so called senior players let down team STill HE ACCEPTED THE CAPTAINCY? still u think him a puppet??
May be senior players will group against him but dravid will play for team
Chappell or Sachin: Who's the bigger problem?
Sumit Chakraberty
Thursday, April 05, 2007 22:09 IST



For http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1089155
Tendlya vs Chappell
Almost as soon as he took over as coach, Chappell made a comment saying he didn%u2019t think Sachin was "ever going to be the player he was".
http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20070416&fname=Column Boycott %28F%29&sid=2&pn=1


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RE:RE:Yuvraj singh openly backs Tendulkar!!
by Ifear paceman on Apr 08, 2007 02:26 PM  Permalink
Even slow scoring with Bermuda was designed to throw india out of WCBut other platers scored briskly so we survived for time being.

Bangladesh was playing with 12 players in WC win against India. whereas India played with 10 players.

Ganguly played for himself and Bangladesh.


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RE:Yuvraj singh openly backs Tendulkar!!
by AAA on Apr 08, 2007 01:47 PM  Permalink
Suman
why are you using others mesage to prove your point. YOu are a big fan of dravid!!!!

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RE:Yuvraj singh openly backs Tendulkar!!
by AAA on Apr 08, 2007 01:44 PM  Permalink
hey sandeep,suman is back

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RE:Rediff is a bullshit site !!
by Shohaker Roddur on Apr 08, 2007 02:38 PM  Permalink
Mukherjee babu cha niye ashun

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RE:Rediff is a bullshit site !!
by Aneesh on Apr 08, 2007 01:41 PM  Permalink
100% correct.

Hope they are the agents of ............

It is extremely useless and waste of time if we come here and comment based on every stupid articles/news. Better stay away.

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Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by sudip majumder on Apr 08, 2007 01:23 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Joker captain with joker coaches92) and joker manager. Rahul is the most corrup politician on the planet earth with no conscience what-so-ever ; He is such a useless fellow that his time is spent on licking either Greg or licking his own tongue. cann't India get a better captain than that moron rahul . Trust with Rahul India is already below 8 and it would be worse going forward. Rahul is the general and rest are servants. What happened to Bindra and Dalmya now. They should throw the jokers in BCCI srini, sashank of the world. Rahul and Shastri what a deadly combination - both are jokers in their own merit - one as captain and the other as wearing pants in reverse!

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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by pramit palit on Apr 08, 2007 01:31 PM  Permalink
Rahul is a great batsman but a very bad captain.I wonder what made the BCCI choose him again. As a captain he has been autocratic and vain - one who has never consulted his other players.He himself should have quit.

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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by Sourav Ganguly on Apr 08, 2007 02:13 PM  Permalink
Offcourse I played selfish game, poor game aginst Bangldesh 129 balls - 66 runs, 23 balls 7 runs vs sri lanka, Because-

1) I was out of captaincy.
2) I was out team
3) Rahul dravid remained silent- Never supported me
4) It was painful - Needed revenge I had ability to score 100 agianst Bangladesh and Sri lanka, i Became man of the match and man of the series against Sri lanka, I got out for 7 in 23 balls, becoz I wanted-

1) Greg chappel to out of team, I knew if we loose the world cup- Greg is out of team
2) Rahul will be out of captaincy
3) I will become captain sooner or later.      
      
I had pre planned revenge-
1) Harbhajan was my chella- He didnt play well
itt was my wish

I showed them what is Bengali's Revenge !!!
India will be destroyed if anyone says anything about Bengali's ! All states are just for namesake infront of Bengal, Amour Bengal, Jai Bengal !!!!

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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by Suman Bhat on Apr 08, 2007 02:29 PM  Permalink
hardwork and performance brings ICC awards and dravid's career is best example for that
ganguly and sachin both are better stroke players and odi opening pair and got more runs and 100s than dravid but DRAVID STILL AHEAD OF BOTH OF THEM XII IN ICC RANKING...
dadagiri groupism politics will bring bad name
if ganguly thinks he took revenge it was his loss also. do u think he and sachin will be there in team for next WC

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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by Suman Bhat on Apr 08, 2007 01:53 PM  Permalink
Check the dravid performance / statistics in team ind win in last 5-6 years. Dravid played under azar, sachin, ganguly and gave his 100% to team. Most of time his innings came when team was in trouble, under curcial match and he performed against all strong teams. He is only player who batted from No1 to 7 position, stayed at wkt till the finishing of match and building partnerships, dravid anchored the succss of ganguly as captain in odis as well as in tests. in test match he scored 28% of total runs, in 21 tests which team won under gangulys'captaicny. But when dravid is captain he is not getting the players support. IS it his mistake? If ganguly is good leader he should reciprocated what dravid has contributed to his success. Sachin is great player but team is not bigger than him. Why he he should insists that he wanted s to bat opening.The calibra of sachin's like batsman should be able to bat at any no or any condition???
it is ganguly who is promoting groupism,his gang only plyed negative circket and gifted match to bangadesh and sl.
it is ganguly a selfish, oppertunist politician not dravid..
india is ranked 6th in odi now and it was ranked 8th when dravid appointed captain
                               
      


SC Ganguly             146      76      65 &nbs p;    5      52.05%
R Dravid              65      33       28       4       50.77%
The difference of odi wnnin average is only 1% when compared to succss of ganguly & john AND dravid and chappell
Ganguly and john had advanatage of leading team more Nos of matches( almost double) and for five yrs and dravid and ccahppell did not even completed 2 yrs


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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by Ifear paceman on Apr 08, 2007 02:26 PM  Permalink

Even slow scoring with Bermuda was designed to throw india out of WCBut other platers scored briskly so we survived for time being.

Bangladesh was playing with 12 players in WC win against India. whereas India played with 10 players.

Ganguly played for himself and Bangladesh.


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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by Take it easy on Apr 08, 2007 01:32 PM  Permalink
who according to you can cap india?

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RE:Joker captain with a joker manager, joker coaches.
by sandeep sharma on Apr 08, 2007 01:43 PM  Permalink
ponting but even he would be failure as indian captain because of other 10 jokers

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How long this article will stay on the front page?
by Aneesh on Apr 08, 2007 01:17 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Anybody noticed? Any news in favour of the spineless captain [dravid] will stay looooong here on the rediff's front page! If you comment against dravid or if you appreciate ganguly/tendulkar, such posts will be removed immediately.

Rediff is shit and palying for dravid, chappel, more and other clowns from bcci.

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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by S Narain on Apr 08, 2007 01:52 PM  Permalink
Rahul is spineless & a dreadful Captain?? Why he did not play ,Shrisanth,Pathan & Karthik in WC 07. He would ruin the Indian cricket with help of Jokers like Pawar& unholy BCCI ,Anti Indian Ravi Shastri,mediocre Venkatesh Prasad.Only Robin Singh is good


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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by Guruprasad N on Apr 08, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink
Gabguly won the macthes only because of dravid.
Tendulakar has shown that he plays for himself by refusing to drop to no. 4(Though he finally had to, as Chappel asked him to warm the bench, if he doesn;t want to bat at no. 4). So who better than Dravid who is a team-man fit to lead the team? Unfortunately we Indians have a culture to celebrate stars and not the team persons? Very unfortunate.

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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by duga rao on Apr 08, 2007 01:40 PM  Permalink
ya...... rediff making indians fools, by making us to rotate around these cricket news(bullshit) daily

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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by Take it easy on Apr 08, 2007 01:23 PM  Permalink
Dravid is a consistent player, he has always performed consistently and also he has proven to a good captain. Now if star like ganguly, sachin or yuvraj failed to play what can he do? Let him prove his leadershi capability , may be defeat in WC will make him more agressive.
Regarding sachin or ganguly what have they done in recent past for their article to be in front page for so long.

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by Suman Bhat on Apr 08, 2007 02:03 PM  Permalink
Winning or defeat in matches depends on performance of XI players irrespective of captain, coach, pitch, stretagy and conditions. Bangladesh and SL victory against India is best example and a captain is as good as his team and it is individual palyer to deicide to suppor team and captain or play for self ?? I
When chappelll tried to give chance to youngesters many ppl said expereinece players required. When experienced failded now same ppl are asking for youngsters%u2026
If a player can get negative inspiration why can%u2019t same palyer /what is problem in getting positive inspiration play for team ???

F team win all players come forward to take credit then all players will be responsible for the defeat.
Ind%u2019s early exit is b%u2019cuz of attitude and ego problem of some players and lack of commitment to team.has captain and coach told players to drop catches, bowlers to bowl so many extras , poor running bet wkt or not interested to take singles or rotate strike???
This WC team India %u2018s early exit, b%u2019cuz some players delieberatley palyed negative cricket and betryed team and dtiched dravid /team. If players are not ready to support team cause what capatain.some players fielding and body language was visible that as if they were playing an practice match and gifted match to Bangladesh an early exit from WC means dravid is not good captian and ganguly%u2019s records not harmed
When players only go against captain and coach and betray teammates why blame captain or coach??If player can not perform for team what is his role ? He should be kicked out team


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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by sudip majumder on Apr 08, 2007 01:24 PM  Permalink
leadership can not be developed - some people has it and some do not. Raul belongs to the 'do not category' He does not command respect from his fellow cricketers - period.

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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 08, 2007 02:00 PM  Permalink
Ind%u2019s early exit from WC is b%u2019cuz lack of commitment to team cause some players deliberately played negative cricket and gifted the match to SL and bangladesh it is team players not chappell who performed pathaticlly on field.
The real culprits by S Rajesh
http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
Acaptian is as good as a team. if some senior players grouped against captain what captain can do..A horse can be taken to the water and forced to drink but salllowing or vomoting should be done by horse? so player has to decide to play for team, or self??sachin is legend but he is not above game or team. He can get back into team without proving fitness test,
Atleast greg chappell had guts to speak agaisnt petty politics played by seniors. Now knowing politicina ganguly and great sachin and all senior are together still he accepted the capticany ?? U think he is still a coward???
ganguly and sachin should realise that they are not greater than team or game or ind cricket. all are equal b'cuz cricket is team game

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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by Take it easy on Apr 08, 2007 01:32 PM  Permalink
Sudip please take some management lessons(if you are old enough to)Leadership qualities can be developed in anyone, provide he gets proper lessons/coaching from their mentors.
If dravid would not have had these qualities then India would not have won 17 straight ODI's chasing the targets. When top notch faile he as agood leader led an example by anchoring his innings. For you if agression is the only leadership quality that one should have, then please take a break

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RE:How long this article will stay on the front page?
by Aneesh on Apr 08, 2007 01:35 PM  Permalink
Leadership can not be developed my dear "Take it easy". A cat can't become a tiger!
Also Dravid's mind is full of poison and jealousy and he doesn't know how to deal and respect other players. That's why none of the seniors like him. Understand???

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why dravid kept as the captain ?
by anjan datta on Apr 08, 2007 01:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is a suicidal decision to keep Rahul Dravid as the captain of Indian cricket team. At this moment we need a brave man as captain with positive attitude and who can lead the team by standing infront of the squad. More important is that he should be acceptable for all payers of the squad. It is really shocked that Dravid has not these qualities and BCCI has again done a wrong to keep him as the captain.

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RE:why dravid kept as the captain ?
by Aneesh on Apr 08, 2007 01:20 PM  Permalink
why dravid? because most of the clowns love dravid's a$$h0le! Also they still love chappel and his opinion. clowns think white skin is precious!

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why dravid kept as the captain ?
by anjan datta on Apr 08, 2007 01:15 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It is a suicidal decision to keep Rahul Dravid as the captain of Indian cricket team. At thi

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RE:why dravid kept as the captain ?
by sandeep sharma on Apr 08, 2007 01:47 PM  Permalink
if not Dravid then who? please dont say ganguly that would be end of indian cricket

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RE:why dravid kept as the captain ?
by srihari mohanty on Apr 08, 2007 02:03 PM  Permalink
read the message by sourav ganguly at 1.51 pm.that is absolutely correct.

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RE:why dravid kept as the captain ?
by Ifear paceman on Apr 08, 2007 02:27 PM  Permalink

Even slow scoring with Bermuda was designed to throw india out of WCBut other platers scored briskly so we survived for time being.

Bangladesh was playing with 12 players in WC win against India. whereas India played with 10 players.

Ganguly played for himself and Bangladesh.


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