I will be the first person to accept that Rahul Dravid along with Sunil Gavaskar and Sachin Tendulkar are the three greatest Indian batsmen of all time!!
But here the issue is Dravid as a captain, not as a player!!
as a captain, Dravid needs to take lessons from Ganguly in man management and team building!!
RE:Advice to Suman Bhat !!
by India fan on Apr 08, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
Both of them are uncles, it does not make any difference, the only problem is one is right handed and another is left handed. Also, Ravi Shastri doesn't have to give any tips to either of them. They play like tortoises, just like Ravi.
RE:Advice to Suman Bhat !!
by Suman Bhat on Apr 08, 2007 03:37 PM Permalink
ganguly should stop playing politics and promote groupism. He ditched dalmiay and dravid
there is an opinion sachin plays for records and when in crucial matches he wont' ber there for team service. IF he is great legent, why he insisted to open batting. ??
IF IND PLAYERS FIGHT THE BATTLE ON THE GROUND RATHER THAN IN DRESSING ROOM THEY WOULD NOT HAVE OUT OF Wc IT IS NOT LOSS OF DRAVID BUT ALSO GANGULY AND SACHIN. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS AND PERFROMANCE IN wc MATCHES DID NOT BRING ANY LAURELS TO BOTH GANGULY AND SACHIN
and performance brings ICC awards and dravid's career is best example for that
ganguly and sachin both are better stroke players and odi opening pair and got more runs and 100s than dravid but DRAVID STILL AHEAD OF BOTH OF THEM XII IN ICC RANKING...
dadagiri groupism politics will bring bad name
if ganguly thinks he took revenge it was his loss also. do u think he and sachin will be there in team for next WC???
dravid is knowing all this that some players are with ganguly, and pawar, vengi ravishastri are all sachin's men.
ganguly and right build team also watched how it collaspes also.. when dravid made captain team was ranked 8th and now it is still ranked 6t..
many ind cric fans can realise that why ind lost which player contribtued to team loss b'cuz of huge media coverage. IF ganguly thought early exit in wc will project him super hero and dravid not good captain ..but it did not happened,. ind ppl do not need a chappell report many ppl watched the performance of sachin ganguly bajji dhoni and thieir body langugage..it is loss for dravid as well as gnaguly and his gangsters also.
RE:Advice to Suman Bhat !!
by Lotiya Pathan on Apr 08, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
suman bhat, pls know what chappal feels about ganguly:
On Sourav Ganguly: "He has practiced most of what I had preached during the time he was out of the team. He has shown plenty of determination in winning his place back. I hope he continues to work hard on his fitness and score heavily for the team."
captaincy is given to dravid after his poor show, it indicates that mere politics is going on. Its very true, that south looby is presuring on BCCI to make poor dravid as a captain.
dravid is the captian not by choice but as we have no other options currently.i lost all faith in dravid when he continued playing with virendra sehwag.all seniors should have been sacked -lets see who will take them in ads then.it would have also been a eye openor for juniours.
RE:no option
by rayker rayker on Apr 08, 2007 04:21 PM Permalink
supporting sehwag was a bad choice by dravid. we need a younger captain like yuvraj, karthik, whoever - sick and tired of the older lot. no ganguly or sachin too please! we are tired of thier failed attempt. groom one who will lead us to the next world cup final, not these ageing crickters.
Sourav vs Dravid: %u2018I Know What Is Right%u2019
During Sourav Ganguly%u2019s knock of 66 (129 balls, four fours) in the opening game against Bangladesh, Dravid is reported to have sent word twice or thrice to his predecessor to get the scoring rate going, but did not draw the desired response. The left-handed batsman, known to be a scourge of left-arm spinners, made just 45 runs off 69 balls against three left-arm spinners. He got out in the 44th over and left the later order with a lot to do, making Dravid fret and fume.
***
An SMS query about team composition that a journalist had meant for Sourav Ganguly ended up with another player. Of course, as is the nature of intrigues in the Indian team, the latter promptly shared it with skipper Rahul Dravid. The captain told Ganguly at a team meeting that he did not appreciate such interaction with the media. Ganguly shot back: "I have been captain of the Indian team and I know what is right and not. In any case, unlike you, I%u2019ve friends in the media." Enough said.
. the early exit of team from WC is b'czu of some players deliberately played the negative cricket and gifted match to bangadesh and SL .chappelll tried push the senior players from comfort zone and treated every body alike and equal. some paid marketing agents of ganguly blame chappell for pathatic performance and scream on top voice dravid is not good captain and ganguly should be appointed and sachin should retire. these ppl act like cric expert does not highlight the ganguly's contribution to defeat , the petty politcis he played with his chelas like bajji, zahir, dhoni and
Yesterdat NDTV programme =big cricket poll ( with state cricket asso) more than 80% of ppl voted dravid to continue as captain.
RE:batsman let down the tam
by rayker rayker on Apr 08, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
dravid isnt a good choice. but he's the only choice that we have. ganguly, and sachin have been captains in the past. ganguly's captaincy was good in the begining, and he was desperately out of form and trying his best to retain himself in the team first and then his captaincy. sadly he had to go out. now he's come back with vengeance, and his only aim seems to be to accumulate runs, at any cost.
he is far from what he used to be : "god of offside" . not even the form he used to be in earlier.
RE:batsman let down the tam
by Lotiya Pathan on Apr 08, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
suman bhat, pls know what chappal feels about ganguly:
On Sourav Ganguly: "He has practiced most of what I had preached during the time he was out of the team. He has shown plenty of determination in winning his place back. I hope he continues to work hard on his fitness and score heavily for the team."
captaincy is given to dravid after his poor show, it indicates that mere politics is going on. Its very true, that south looby is presuring on BCCI to make poor dravid as a captain.
ganguly is the best person to be captain.he brought our teams to a gr8 victory.he didnt performed but made team to do well.this is wat we expect 4m a capatin make our team play.
RE:plz dont try dravid again
by rayker rayker on Apr 08, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
ganguly WAS good in the earlier part of his captaincy. the later part was a rot and erosion of team india.
RE:plz dont try dravid again
by Ifear paceman on Apr 08, 2007 02:29 PM Permalink
Even slow scoring with Bermuda was designed to throw india out of WCBut other platers scored briskly so we survived for time being.
Bangladesh was playing with 12 players in WC win against India. whereas India played with 10 players.
RE:plz dont try dravid again
by varun krishan on Apr 08, 2007 03:04 PM Permalink
oh please.. u agree that he didnt perform but the team performed.. And who was there in the team .. the same dravid and tendulkar.. These were the players who made ganguly the most succesful captain.. And if we give dravid the same time as ganguly he will surpass not only ganguly but also kapil.. just wait and watch.. For that definitely ganguly politician and tendulkar legacy should be DROPPED..
- After the Wolrd Cup dabecle, players stand cornered
LOKENDRA PRATAP SAHI
Mumbai: Nobody may confirm, but there apparently were phases in recent times when captain Rahul Dravid had to act as a %u2018messenger%u2019 between coach Greg Chappell and most players.
Sounds unbelievable, but it reportedly did happen.
The complete breakdown in communication meant Dravid, an introvert himself, had to face the music. It%u2019s anybody%u2019s guess just how much it affected him as a person and as a cricketer.
%u201CDravid has come through a very tough period,%u201D is what somebody in the know told The Telegraph on Saturday, the day after the World Cup review.
Meanwhile, Dravid hasn%u2019t only been backing Virender Sehwag both inside and outside selection meetings %u2014 he stood by all his players during the review.
%u201CAt least one official specifically asked about the attitude of certain players, but Dravid insisted there had been nothing wrong with anybody%u2019s behaviour,%u201D revealed a well-placed source.
The gentleman added: %u201CThroughout, Dravid kept saying if anybody had to be faulted, it would be him... His attitude enhanced the already high respect he enjoys...%u201D
Dravid has kept the captaincy and, on the face of it, shouldn%u2019t have problems with stand-in cricket manager (coach) Ravi Shastri. There%u2019s enormous repair work to be done and, so, their task is cut out.
RE:RE:dravid mediated between chappell, vsganguly during ZImb tour
by varun krishan on Apr 08, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
you create your own bengal nation team and make ganguly the maharaja the captain of your team... we will see then wat happens.. u guys are more region oriented than nation oriented.. shame on you..
Guys dont read too much into this. Dravid was made captian again cos THERE IS NO ALTERNATIVE. Ganguly no longer commands the respect among his teammates now which he used to commmand before, and also ganguly is batting well now cos he doent have captiancy burden. And sachin also failed earlier as captian. And if our defeats are analysed it was not due to draids captiancy failure. Now because greg has gone, and also match fees to players have been fixed based upon performance, and also since the BCCI has given order to regional cricket boards to make fast/bouncy pitches in india so that our batsmen get used to these kinda pitches, our team will once again pick up I hope.
If India has to loose and Rahul and Greg have to loose their position in the team, and also I have to retain my place in the team- 1) Play test match- 50 runs - in 100 balls 2) 7 runs in 23 balls this will be good chance, if I get out of 0 or 2 or 3 in early match then tey will kick me out of team and people will blame me. 3) So I must also score and India must also loose 4) It is like snake should also die and stick also must not broke !!! Thanks for my Bengali's for supporting me! I played Ding dong with Nagam film actor but Still my peoplre supported me!! thanks bengali's
RE:I had only one choice
by Ifear paceman on Apr 08, 2007 02:24 PM Permalink
Even slow scoring with Bermuda was designed to throw india out of WCBut other platers scored briskly so we survived for time being.
Bangladesh was playing with 12 players in WC win against India. whereas India played with 10 players.
RE:I had only one choice
by karteik kotagiri on Apr 08, 2007 02:09 PM Permalink
Looks like ur trying desperately to give a bad name to bengal. I am sure other bengalis are not like u!!
RE:RE:I had only one choice
by kris on Apr 08, 2007 02:23 PM Permalink
sourav as captain in one day sachin as captain in test the committee doesnt care about the team in future. bad luck to indian team
RE:I had only one choice
by Sourav Ganguly on Apr 08, 2007 02:19 PM Permalink
No I am correct,One year I was out of team, I was out of captaincy, where the hell Dravid went, when Yuvraj, Tendulkar, Harbhajan, Sehwag suppoted me, I can tell my happiness to media, or any one like this so I am clebrating ,my happiess in this rediff, nobody knows I am Ganguly, everyone thinks some Bangali with my name chatting, I am the Mahraja , I am sourav, Amour bengal! I am right I took revenge becoz they cheated me!!!
RE:I had only one choice
by reju thomas on Apr 08, 2007 02:27 PM Permalink
you took revenge...good but you put your motherland into shame,cheating your motherland is the worst sin and you hurt millions of fans. If you feel it's good keep on doing
RE:I had only one choice
by Sourav Ganguly on Apr 08, 2007 02:38 PM Permalink
Mohammed Azahrudin got chance for 3 world cups as a Captain, even though the team didnt reach finals, I took the team to finals why I was got only one chance, if you say this is correct, Then Wht I did was also correct! I dont feel shame, Shame on all other people who dropped second successful captain of India Like sourav, who else has taken to finals except me in world cup ? amour Bengal, I dont care who dont support me, Bengali's are supporting me its my strentgh, a Kerala, kannada, Mahartasta, Gujrat etc dont support I dont care, I will become captain very shortly agian !
Dravid as Captain was awful in world Cup. He allowed himself to be stooge of Chappel & BCCI.He has brought shame to our country and as a token of this achievement ,he has been rewarded by BCCI.
BCCI is governed by most corrupt ,self serving persons like pawar & he has brought Jokers like Ravi Shastri, Venatesh Prasad to detroy the team completely.Only Robin Singh is genuine.
RE:Political move to retain Dravid
by Aneesh on Apr 08, 2007 02:05 PM Permalink
Govt. has to make law to keep politicians away from bcci. Pawar is a cheap and shameless politician and he will continue play his game until finish his tenure. Biggest jokes are the appointment of venkatesh prasad and retain dravid as captain.
Offcourse I played selfish game, poor game aginst Bangldesh 129 balls - 66 runs, 23 balls 7 runs vs sri lanka, Because-
1) I was out of captaincy. 2) I was out team 3) Rahul dravid remained silent- Never supported me 4) It was painful - Needed revenge I had ability to score 100 agianst Bangladesh and Sri lanka, i Became man of the match and man of the series against Sri lanka in last series held in India, I got out for 7 in 23 balls in world cup, becoz I wanted-
1) Greg chappel to out of team, I knew if we loose the world cup- Greg is out of team 2) Rahul will be out of captaincy 3) I will become captain sooner or later.
I had pre planned revenge- 1) Harbhajan was my chella- He didnt play well itt was my wish
I showed them what is Bengali's Revenge !!! India will be destroyed if anyone says anything about Bengali's ! All states are just for namesake infront of Bengal, Amour Bengal, Jai Bengal !!!!
