BCCI To decided each player first up all to play baseball in practice session.more advantage to player.but no tendency to play base ball in indian cricket.
RE:BCCI
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
Sourav vs Dravid: %u2018I Know What Is Right%u2019 During Sourav Ganguly%u2019s knock of 66 (129 balls, four fours) in the opening game against Bangladesh, Dravid is reported to have sent word twice or thrice to his predecessor to get the scoring rate going, but did not draw the desired response. The left-handed batsman, known to be a scourge of left-arm spinners, made just 45 runs off 69 balls against three left-arm spinners. He got out in the 44th over and left the later order with a lot to do, making Dravid fret and fume.
An SMS query about team composition that a journalist had meant for Sourav Ganguly ended up with another player. Of course, as is the nature of intrigues in the Indian team, the latter promptly shared it with skipper Rahul Dravid. The captain told Ganguly at a team meeting that he did not appreciate such interaction with the media. Ganguly shot back: "I have been captain of the Indian team and I know what is right and not. In any case, unlike you, I%u2019ve friends in the media." Enough said.
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by Rocker on Apr 09, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Change Hindustan to Bangalistan... Bangali will be national language Saurav will be President, Prime Minister and Captain of Bangalistan team. And the matches will be played in Eden Gardens and all the Banglistan players will write B in place of V. Hail Bangalistan......
RE:BCCI
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
With Greg Chappell resigning as India coach, it is interesting to take a look at the senior players? and India?s performance in international cricket under the Australian since his appointment in March 2005. The full details are : Batsmen Category Matches Runs Highest Avg 100 Virender Sehwag Test cricket 17 993 256 36.78 2 ODI cricket 54 1518 114 29.77 1 Sourav Ganguly Test cricket 9 486 101 40.50 1 ODI cricket 18 665 98 44.33 0 Rahul Dravid Test cricket 17 1455 146 58.20 3 ODI cricket 58 1945 105 41.38 2 Sachin Tendulkar Test cricket 12 534 109 29.66 1 ODI cricket 36 1205 141* 40.16 3 V.V.S.Laxman Test cricket 16 917 140 39.86 3 ODI cricket 3 29 22 9.66 0 Yuvraj Singh Test cricket 13 528 122 31.05 1 ODI cricket 49 1852 120 51.44 5
Note : Matches played by Sehwag and Darvid during the Super Series in Australia are not considered here .
Hi guys, I think the board has taken a right stand by restricting the players to 3 companies. By this way they will be able to concentrate on their sole target and job-TO PLAY WELL CONSISTENTELY.
In the past what used to happen is the new guys who do well used to go mad by signing 10-12 companies straight away after performing in 10-12 matches as if they want to earn the bucks for their whole life in 1 year. Money's "HAVAS" is always bad. By this policy they will still earn a reasonable amount of money but this policy will also force them to perform more n more better so that they can earn that much money from 3 companies which they used to earn from 7-8 companies. This urge of continuous performance will help ultimately our team. Board must stick with this policy and should not change it in future what so ever the circumstances. The other good thing the board has done is abolishing the CONTRACT system which keeps the players on guard always becos this will going to be their sole source of income from matches.
WHATEVER, but tell me guys isn't that shame for us that our players are driven by money and not by National Pride. Look at Aussies 'The Baggy Green Cap' is enough for him to do good performance. Playing for Australia is enough for him. Alas, would that our players develop that LOVE FOR THE NATION.
RE:LOVE FOR THE NATION
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 10:21 AM Permalink
the early exit of team from WC is b'czu of some players deliberately played the negative cricket and gifted match to bangadesh and SL .chappelll tried push the senior players from comfort zone and treated every body alike and equal. some paid marketing agents of ganguly blame chappell for pathatic performance and scream on top voice dravid is not good captain and ganguly should be appointed and sachin should retire. these ppl act like cric expert does not highlight the ganguly's contribution to defeat , the petty politcis he played with his chelas like bajji, zahir, dhoni andGanguly had big role in defeat in mathch against Bangladesh. He gifted match t o bangaldesh deliberately playing negative cricket just to humiliate dravid and to take revenge against chappell ?? but he betrayed the whole team ganguly wasted more balls than runs he scored poor fielding and poor running wkt and unwilling to take singles cost more runs to team also created pressure on batsman on other side He did not bother to try and hold an easy catch during agarka bowling , Never tried to accelerate run rate He did not tried to hold simple catch during agarkar%u2019s bowling 60 runs in 130 balls how it can help a team cause?? Ganguly had one stage for having batted through nearly 11 overs to make a mere 7 runs. Yuvraj Scored 47 runs in 10 overs India Scored 191 in 50 overs Ganguly Scored 66 runs in 21 overs wasted more balls than runs he scored., Yuvraj Scored 47 runs in 10 overs Rest of team scored 50 in 19 overs Against burmada Ganguly scored 89 in 114 balls wasted 25 balls that is around 4.6 runs per over... compare it to the indian teams average of 8.26 Ganguly was struggling while batting against burmuda, and got 3 lifes Ganguly 7 in 23 balls against SL: Harbajan singh went wktless in 2 matches dhoni failed with bat was laughing when he dro[[ed catch t there were not sight in picture which tv channel shown when India lost ot SL all other players are in tears Tendulkar scored a duck, Ganguly 7 in 23 balls and Yuvraj 6? Dhoni 0?( match against srilanka) zahirkahn was wktless in firest match and in he took 2 wkts against SL but he gave more extra runs b'cuz of erratic bowling. VC captain sachin failed completely with bat coz the players who played all 3 matchs Except dravid munaf yuvraj nobody has shown commitment?
RE:Bangali Egobe
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 09:55 AM Permalink
Vote for players on www.cricketvotes.com. Some interesting facts. 66% think Tendulkar shd retire 59% think Ganguly shd go. More marathi folks think that Tendulkar shd retire. 56% support venkatest prasad for bowling coach 92% think Robin is a good fit for fielding coach. Dinesh Karthick of the most supported player , with 95% asking him to be in. Agit agarkar is the most unwanted, 80% want him out, follwed by 79% for Harbajan singh. NDTV's first question to 15 senior officials from different state associations including major ones like Delhi, Mumbai, Punjab and Karnataka was whether the Indian skipper should be sacked or retained.
A staggering 80 per cent said he should continue, while just 13 per cent said he should go.
http://www.ndtv.com/ndtvcricket/showstory.aspx?id=SPOEN20070007947&site=ndtv sachin and ganguly should realise that both are not bigger than the team and game. figing on fiedl will bring rewards rather than derssing room petty politics. NDTV ajay jadeja and siddu both are no 1 campaigners anti dravid and pro ganguly%u2026
Ideas for Indian cricket I don't know if anyone thought of this
Now that there is a bowling, batting and fielding coach, there should be a way of accounting players for their efforts. The respective coaches and their support staff must grade the platers and rank them according some standards (same as the standards used by ICC or any known standard)
1. Have a fielding ranking of all 25-40 players 2. Have a bowling ranking of all players 3. Have a batting ranking.
Notice that order is India's fielding(weakest), bowling (Weaker) and then batting (weak). Surprisingly though the bowling in recent times has been a tad bit better than the batting.
This grading system must be in place for all domestic cricket too. This give a huge sense of accountability for all players and coaches and selectors concerned.
Finally, Top ranked fielder, bowler and batsman of the year will be given an award, with a chance to place his endorsement of choice through the BCCI. Now this ranking should be compared to world ICC standard and if any player is on the top of that list for a full year a special award should be made in his honour.
Coaches on all levels need to be graded and ranked too, to develop better coaches and standards in India. Use of technology to the fullest must be encouraged.
Now there is only one problem with this idea and that is players play selfishly. So for batting and bowling a grading system in which the points earned by a player in an India loss is half the points earned in an India win. For any good fieling there can be no selfishness hence an equal point grading for a loss or win for this aspect. This should give a lot more incentive to play unselfishly for the team.
Let me know what anyone thinks of this idea.
PS: To everyone out there - Don't complain and fight about the terrible things that have already happened. Strive in trying to see what went wrong and fix it by making a positive change.
RE:Rankings - Accountablity
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
ganguly should stop playing politics and promoting groupism. He ditched dalmiay and dravid he can backstab his gangster like bajjik yuvraj sewag , dhoni , zhirkhan dravid knows that ravishastri, sahrad pawar, vengsrarkar with sahcin and ganguly and his gang are promoting groupism, he still accepted captaincy?? How can u say he is coward?? HE is fighting with board for player%u2019s contract, endorosments, and asking for media manager and a saying of captain to choose the younger players selection .. are these not leadership qualities ? What is so called being aggressive captain %u2013taking out shirt and rooling shirt yelling some bad words OR AFTER HISTORIC WIN IN sa, WEAVING THE IND FLAG AND THNKING SUPPORTERS??
Dravid played under captaincy of sachin and ganguly, but he did not promote groupism or negative cricket. He anchored the success for ganguly%u2019s captaincy in odis and test.. But when he was leading team some players did not support him. If players are not for team cause & play deliberately negative cricket and gifted match to Bangladesh SL, the players should be balmed.? There is an opinion sachin plays for records and when in crucial matches he wont' ber there for team service. IF he is great legent, why he insisted to open batting. ?? IF IND PLAYERS FIGHT THE BATTLE ON THE GROUND RATHER THAN IN DRESSING ROOM THEY WOULD NOT HAVE OUT OF Wc IT IS NOT LOSS OF DRAVID BUT ALSO GANGULY AND SACHIN. LATEST DEVELOPMENTS AND PERFROMANCE IN wc MATCHES DID NOT BRING ANY LAURELS TO BOTH GANGULY AND SACHIN and performance brings ICC awards and dravid's career is best example for that ganguly and sachin both are better stroke players and odi opening pair and got more runs and 100s than dravid but DRAVID STILL AHEAD OF BOTH OF THEM XII IN ICC RANKING... dadagiri groupism politics will bring bad name if ganguly thinks he took revenge it was his loss also. do u think he and sachin will be there in team for next WC A HORSE CAN BE TAKEN TO RIVER AND FORCE TO DRKIN WATER . BUT HORSE CAN ONLY SALLOW WATER OR VOTMIT IT IS A PLAYER TO DEICE TO PLAY FOR TEAM, OR SELF.
RE:Rankings - Accountablity
by anurag rai on Apr 09, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
DRAVID SHOULD RETIRE HE IS SAME AGE AS TENDULKAR AND GANGULY AND....HE IS NOT A GOOD FEILDER....
DRAVID IS THE BIGGEST POLITICIAN AND SHAMELESS....HE PERFOMED BADLY AND INDIA GOT KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF HIS POOR CAPTAINCY.....STILL HE WANTS TO BE THE CAPTIAN....IF THE WHOLE TEAM FEELS.....WHAT SACHIN SAID WAS RIGHT AND GANGULY YUVRAJ SACHIN BHAJJI ZAHEER SEHWAG DHONI......ARE ON ONE SIDE...THEN ITS NOT GROUPISM U IDIOT...THIS IS THE 90% OF THE TEAM THAT PLAYS ALL MATCHES....SO DRAVID IS A IDIOT IF HE WANTS TO REPLACE ALL THESE PLAYERS.....AND GET SOME WHO LISTEN TO HIM...THAT WONT HAPPEN...BECAUSE HE SUCKS
RE:Rankings - Accountablity
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 12:36 PM Permalink
Dravid gave his unconditional support and sacrifices to all captians he played under. Check statistics for last7-8 years and see the contributions of dravid forr little success india had WHY CAN%u2019T OTHER PLAYERS DO THE SAME NOIW??CRICKET ts a team game and ALL PLAYERS have to contribute from bat and ball Captian and coach did not tell senior players to not take singles, waste more balls than runs scored, poor running bet wkt, drop catches, give so many extra to bowlers, por batting and throwing wkt by playing silly shots%u2026. , leadership can only take the horse to the water but the horse as to drink it and not vommit.
Even though all senior players are not supporting him, he is fighing with board for contract, endorosement issie He took fight against chetan desai/ dirty report leak. he fought for Sehwag/pathan in the selection meeting where the W C squad was picked. . Sewag is highest rungetter and socred 100 against bermeada others batsman did not score 100 even against bermada Dravid refused to identify any teammate as doing groupism or out of form or some players are rotten apple. Dravid accepted the responsibility for defeat in public infront of media( sachin can go media against some bad report / email leak but he never accepted the defeat that he also failed with bat) Dravid also asked for one media manager, ad managaer and a saying of captain in selection of youngsters, How can anyone say he is not aggressive or inimaginative or spineless??? 65% think Tendulkar shd retire 61% think Ganguly shd go. 56% support venkatest prasad for bowling coach 92% think Robin is a good fit for fielding coach.
Dinesh Karthick of the most supported player , with 95% asking him to be in. He is followed by Dravid and Yuvraj singh. Agit agarkar is the most unwanted, 81% want him out, follwed by 78% for Harbajan singh. on www.cricketvotes.com.. cricketvotes.com/news.html
Nothing can be more unfortunate than seeing Dravid as a captain. He is already proven disastrous. I assume that his failure did count good marks for captaincy. It is clear that the regional lobby is more powerful. I do not see the difference in what people used to raise voice against Dalmiya for godfathering Ganguly. At least under his captaincy we reached the final. Besides this, he has a way better track record than the current one. But the capabilities hardly count. What all count is the naked nepotism spiced in regionalism. My bet however, was for young players say Yvraj,Sewag or Kaif.
After the win, you must have atleast offered to quit? The words from your mouth were at best equivocal. Now, a narrow win in Bangladesh your regional supported will praise you like you're the god.. Same with Tendulkar and Ganguly.. That will cement their places until next world cup..
Vote for players on www.cricketvotes.com. cricketvotes.com/news.html is the only bookmark you need to read upto date cricket news from major news outlets, including rediff.
Some interesting facts. 66% think Tendulkar shd retire 59% think Ganguly shd go. More marathi folks think that Tendulkar shd retire. 56% support venkatest prasad for bowling coach 92% think Robin is a good fit for fielding coach. Dinesh Karthick of the most supported player , with 95% asking him to be in. Agit agarkar is the most unwanted, 80% want him out, follwed by 79% for Harbajan singh.
RE:Dravid, do you lack conscience man?
by Shohaker Roddur on Apr 08, 2007 10:57 PM Permalink
Chappel bhebhchhilo shay John Wright ke chhariye jaabe aar Powar mone korchhen tini Dalmiyar theke boro proshashok. Ei tin jon Bharotiyo cricket ke dubiyechhe aaro dobabe.
RE:Dravid, do you lack conscience man?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 09:59 AM Permalink
captaincy myth when dravid made captain team was broken ship and ranked NO8th in ICC rankingnow even after so many defeats it is ranked NO 6th( till yesterday's varified) dravid is still No 12th in odi ranking . Indian captains in ODIs
Names Matches Won Lost Drawn/Tied Won%
Kapil Dev 74 40 32 2 54.05% M Azharuddin 173 89 76 6/2 51.45% SR Tendulkar 73 23 43 6/1 31.51% SC Ganguly 146 76 65 &nbs p; 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html a captain is as good as his team and it is individual palyer to deicide to suppor team and captain or play for self ?? I IN NDTV big cricket poll survey %u2013 which was conducted by among 15 state criciket associations 80% ppl voted for dravid to retain captaincy Retain Dravid as captain, Sachin should quit ODIs Should Rahul Dravid be replaced as the captain of the Indian team? And the answer was in the negative with 86 per cent saying he should not be removed with only nine per cent saying that he should be replaced. The rest five per cent did not have any opinion. http://www.cricketnext.com/news/retain-dravid-as-captain-sachin-should-quit-odis/24099-13-2.html Indian cricket needs a revolution
RE:Dravid, do you lack conscience man?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 10:25 AM Permalink
The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
While India's players blame their recent poor form on everything from a manipulative coach to a sense of insecurity to an indifferent captain, the plain truth is this: When it really mattered, India's batsmen failed to deliver.
Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779
Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.html was what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'
Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm
Kapil won 83 world cup, 87 world cup semis plus topped the group in 87. He was stripped of the captaincy. ANd here we have Dravid exit first round in WC and get confirmed for 3 more trips as captain. What double standards of BCCI..who can beat their double standards. Ravi Shastri at top...thats just another beginnning of downfall ...next WC we will even lose to Bermuda.
RE:What a joke
by on Apr 08, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
I completely agree..its a joke....win in ireland and confirm dravid as captain until he retires...that will send a stability message to indian cricket...hahaha
RE:What a joke
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 10:00 AM Permalink
Chappell or Sachin: Who's the bigger problem? Sumit Chakraberty Thursday, April 05, 2007 22:09 IST
For http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1089155 Tendlya vs Chappell Almost as soon as he took over as coach, Chappell made a comment saying he didn%u2019t think Sachin was "ever going to be the player he was".
Rahul Dravid was distant while his teammates were being humiliated by Chapell. Now, that BCCI's policy is likely to affect his endorsements as well, he is talking of representation to the BCCI. Shouldnt his motivation be questioned as well?
RE:RE:Money talks
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 10:17 AM Permalink
Mumbai: Nobody may confirm, but there apparently were phases in recent times when captain Rahul Dravid had to act as a %u2018messenger%u2019 between coach Greg Chappell and most players. Sounds unbelievable, but it reportedly did happen. The complete breakdown in communication meant Dravid, an introvert himself, had to face the
music. It%u2019s anybody%u2019s guess just how much it affected him as a person and as a cricketer. %u201CDravid has come through a very tough period,%u201D is what somebody in the know told The Telegraph on Saturday, the day after the World Cup review. Meanwhile, Dravid hasn%u2019t only been backing Virender Sehwag both inside and outside selection meetings %u2014 he stood by all his players during the review. %u201CAt least one official specifically asked about the attitude of certain players, but Dravid insisted there had been nothing wrong with anybody%u2019s behaviour,%u201D revealed a well-placed source. The gentleman added: %u201CThroughout, Dravid kept saying if anybody had to be faulted, it would be him... His attitude enhanced the already high respect he enjoys...%u201D http://www.telegraphindia.com/1070408/asp/sports/story_7620613.asp
RE:Money talks
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 10:14 AM Permalink
Sourav vs Dravid: %u2018I Know What Is Right%u2019 During Sourav Ganguly%u2019s knock of 66 (129 balls, four fours) in the opening game against Bangladesh, Dravid is reported to have sent word twice or thrice to his predecessor to get the scoring rate going, but did not draw the desired response. The left-handed batsman, known to be a scourge of left-arm spinners, made just 45 runs off 69 balls against three left-arm spinners. He got out in the 44th over and left the later order with a lot to do, making Dravid fret and fume.
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An SMS query about team composition that a journalist had meant for Sourav Ganguly ended up with another player. Of course, as is the nature of intrigues in the Indian team, the latter promptly shared it with skipper Rahul Dravid. The captain told Ganguly at a team meeting that he did not appreciate such interaction with the media. Ganguly shot back: "I have been captain of the Indian team and I know what is right and not. In any case, unlike you, I%u2019ve friends in the media." Enough said.
