sachin is legendary cricketer and great batsman But nobody is bigger than game or team. Being VC he failed with bat . ganguly and sachin have support of other playes and both had success to kick out chappell out of ind dressing room. but cric fans do not require chappell's report for the failure of WC debacle. the early exit of team from WC is b'czu of some players deliberately played the negative cricket and gifted match to bangadesh and SL .chappelll tried push the senior players from comfort zone and treated every body alike and equalthe body language, negative cricket played by some senior players is proof that they did not support dravid as captain. Even knowing all these players are not with him and ganguly is fighting from backstage for captaincy, and vengsarkar, sharad pawar, ravishastri all are with sachin dravid accepted the captaincy. also he should be aware one more defeat means it may be end of his odi career. Dravid gave 100% team when he was playing under sachin , ganguly . He did not promote gropism or never betrayed his teammates. He trusted that seniors like ganguly sachin bajii will support him. Instead may players played petty politics, let down team. It is loss for dravid, then it is loss for ganguly and sachin also. There is no guarantee that sachin amd ganguly can play next WC, Dravid gave his unconditional support and sacrifices to all captians he played under. Check statistics for last7-85 years and see the contributions of dravid forr little success india had WHY CAN%u2019T OTHER SENIOR PLAYERS DO THE SAME NOIW??CRICKET ts a team game and ALL PLAYERS have to contribute from bat and ball Captian and coach did not tell senior players to not take singles, waste more balls than runs scored, poor running bet wkt, drop catches, give so many extra to bowlers, por batting and throwing wkt by playing silly shots%u2026. , leadership can only take the horse to the water but the horse as to drink it and not vommit.
Even though all senior players are not supporting him, he is fighing with board for contract, endorosement issie He took fight against chetan desai/ dirty report leak. he fought for Sehwag/pathan in the selection meeting where the W C squad was picked. . Sewag is highest rungetter and socred 100 against bermeada others batsman did not score 100 even against bermada Dravid refused to identify any teammate as doing groupism or out of form or some players are rotten apple. Dravid accepted the responsibility for defeat in public infront of media( sachin can go media against some bad report / email leak but he never accepted the defeat that he also failed with bat) Dravid also asked for one media manager, ad managaer and a saying of captain in selection of youngsters, How can anyone say he is not aggressive or inimaginative or spineless???
Suman Bhatt is writing a lot of crap on Rediff and is crowding the Board by repeating them n numer of times ,like jerk,not allowing others to write the right view point.Has moderator gone to sleep?? The fact is Rahul Dravid is BCCI agent or else how he could have been retained even after such awful performance in WC.It is difficult to believe that he did not play Srisanth,Pathan & Karthik ,& played Agarkar ,the dud. Suman Bhat should be sent to mental asylum for writing so much of garbage.
RE:Suman Bhat should be barred from MB
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
u r sic person posting some garbage u must be admitted to mental asylum
RE:Dravid and His Young Team
by anurag rai on Apr 09, 2007 11:34 AM Permalink
DRAVID SHOULD RETIRE HE IS SAME AGE AS TENDULKAR AND GANGULY AND....HE IS NOT A GOOD FEILDER....
DRAVID IS THE BIGGEST POLITICIAN AND SHAMELESS....HE PERFOMED BADLY AND INDIA GOT KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF HIS POOR CAPTAINCY.....STILL HE WANTS TO BE THE CAPTIAN....IF THE WHOLE TEAM FEELS.....WHAT SACHIN SAID WAS RIGHT AND GANGULY YUVRAJ SACHIN BHAJJI ZAHEER SEHWAG DHONI......ARE ON ONE SIDE...THEN ITS NOT GROUPISM U IDIOT...THIS IS THE 90% OF THE TEAM THAT PLAYS ALL MATCHES....SO DRAVID IS A IDIOT IF HE WANTS TO REPLACE ALL THESE PLAYERS.....AND GET SOME WHO LISTEN TO HIM...THAT WONT HAPPEN...BECAUSE HE SUCKS
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink
JG Wright 130 68 56&nbs p; 6/0 52.30 GS Chappell 62 32 27&nb sp; 3/0 51.61 & nbsp;
SC Ganguly 146 76 65 &nbs p; 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% The difference of odi wnnin average is only 1% when compared to succss of ganguly & john AND dravid and chappell Ganguly and john had advanatage of leading team more Nos of matches( almost double) and for five yrs and dravid and ccahppell did not even completed 2 yrs team won odis and tests without tendulkar and ganguly under leadership of dravid. chappell hold the mirror of dirty politcis of senior players and he was thrown out of ind team. ganguly sachin bajji dhoni agaraker zahir khan must fight battle on field rather thain in dressing room
RE:Dravid and His Young Team
by amit sharma on Apr 09, 2007 12:45 PM Permalink
Stats as per me for dravid n ganguli ais as under . Why should we include the match which were either cancelled r not played
RE:Dravid and His Young Team
by bharat on Apr 09, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Suman, if I lead the team, how can I have fun writing on this forum just like you do?
Mind you, I am all for Dravid to continue as the captain since whatever the other forumers may criticize him for, he is the best candidate available at this point in time.
RE:Dravid and His Young Team
by Suman Bhat on Apr 09, 2007 12:33 PM Permalink
captaincy myth When players only go against captain and coach and betray teammates why blame captain or coach??If player can not perform for team what is his role ? He should be kicked out team
SC Ganguly 146 76 65 &nbs p; 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% The difference of odi wnnin average is only 1% when compared to succss of ganguly & john AND dravid and chappell Ganguly and john had advanatage of leading team more Nos of matches( almost double) and for five yrs and dravid and ccahppell did not even completed 2 yrs
Dravid gave his unconditional support and sacrifices to all captians he played under. Check statistics for last7-8 years and see the contributions of dravid forr little success india had WHY CAN%u2019T OTHER PLAYERS DO THE SAME NOIW
RE:Dravid and His Young Team
by Circuit on Apr 09, 2007 12:49 PM Permalink
Statistics is a good tool for analysis, but it should be used with caution. There is an old story of a stats teacher who while crossing a river calculated as average depthof river as 4 feet and average hight of the students as 5 feet and went for crossing it, the result , All drowned.
Same thing is here done by Suman Bhatt repeatedly. If wee look at this on year to year basis and take care of some other facts, then it is quite clear that Ganguly-Wright duo started with scratch to build the team after the Fixing scandal and build the team with average of 52% victory, The same team got transfered to Dravid-Chapple duo and till the time Chapples Ideas started in producing the results, it gave 60% victory in 2005, and 2006 onwards when the ideas started giving results, came down to 40%,
So which performance is better Wright-Ganguly's 52% build from scrath or Chapple-Dravid's 51% build from a strong base.
RE:Dravid and His Young Team
by Atal Advani on Apr 12, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
We have a lot of uneducated people here who pick up statistics from google and paste it here ....so when I play one match and win that match my average will show 100% is that performance?? if I play 100 matches and win 99 matches my average will show 99% so which performance is better 100% in one match or 99% in hundred matches ...dravid and gangulys comparison is like that ....dravid doesnt even know how to walk straight if you compare him with ganguly....i mean these are simple things which some idiots cannot understand ...there is no point comparing gold with cowdung dravid.....and this amazing argument that ganguly played slow in the world cup shows how ungreatful and ill mannered indians can get for people who are trying to serve the country....ganguly was slow because he was holding one end .....that was what any intelligent cricketer who has played any cricket will do ....that is what ponting did the other day against england ....he didnt do anything flashy .....i mean the completely illitrate indian public will neva understand these things ...they think cricket has to be played the way sehwag plays ....thats why indian cricket is in this position today the indian team cannot remembre the last time they lasted 50 overs .......hahahahaha and dravid takes advantage of this non cricketing public to shamelessly hold on to his position as captain ....look at lara look at inzimam ..they immidiately stepped down and took complete responsibility and not a single person had the guts to criticize them after they announced retirement ..where as our shameless dravid after disgracing India and cheating india now thats good cricket still wants to be captain , he wants to negotiate about endorsements with BCCI I mean how shamless can someone get ...and here we are trying to disgrace a former captain who is also known to be the most successful captain of all time for working sincerely to get himself a place in the team and doing a very successful comback and standing up for india when the whole team was falling apart like a pack of cards ....Suman Bhat I am not a communal guy I speak from my knowledge of cricket and awareness of simple statistics of mean median mode
With Greg Chappell resigning as India coach, it is interesting to take a look at the senior players? and India?s performance in international cricket under the Australian since his appointment in March 2005. The full details are : Batsmen Category Matches Runs Highest Avg 100 Virender Sehwag Test cricket 17 993 256 &nb sp; 36.78 2 ODI cricket 54 1518 114 &n bsp; 29.77 1 Sourav Ganguly Test cricket 9 486 101 &nbs p; 40.50 1 ODI cricket 18 665 98 &nbs p; 44.33 0 Rahul Dravid Test cricket 17 1455 146 &n bsp; 58.20 3 ODI cricket 58 1945 105 &n bsp; 41.38 2 Sachin Tendulkar Test cricket 12 534 109 &nb sp; 29.66 1 ODI cricket 36 1205 141* & nbsp; 40.16 3 V.V.S.Laxman Test cricket 16 917 140 &nb sp; 39.86 3 ODI cricket 3 29 22 9.66 0 Yuvraj Singh Test cricket 13 528 122 &nb sp; 31.05 1 ODI cricket 49 1852 120 &n bsp; 51.44 5 With Greg Chappell resigning as India coach, it is interesting to take a look at the senior players? and India?s performance in international cricket under the Australian since his appointment in March 2005. The full details are : Batsmen Category Matches Runs Highest Avg 100 Virender Sehwag Test cricket 17 993 256 &nb sp; 36.78 2 ODI cricket 54 1518 114 &n bsp; 29.77 1 Sourav Ganguly Test cricket 9 486 101 &nbs p; 40.50 1 ODI cricket 18 665 98 &nbs p; 44.33 0 Rahul Dravid Test cricket 17 1455 146 &n bsp; 58.20 3 ODI cricket 58 1945 105 &n bsp; 41.38 2 Sachin Tendulkar Test cricket 12 534 109 &nb sp; 29.66 1 ODI cricket 36 1205 141* & nbsp; 40.16 3 V.V.S.Laxman Test cricket 16 917 140 &nb sp; 39.86 3 ODI cricket 3 29 22 9.66 0 Yuvraj Singh Test cricket 13 528 122 &nb sp; 31.05 1 ODI cricket 49 1852 120 &n bsp; 51.44 5 With Greg Chappell resigning as India coach, it is interesting to take a look at the senior players? and India?s performance in international cricket under the Australian since his appointment in March 2005. The full details are : Batsmen Category Matches Runs Highest Avg 100 Virender Sehwag Test cricket 17 993 256 &nb sp; 36.78 2 ODI cricket 54 1518 114 &n bsp; 29.77 1 Sourav Ganguly Test cricket 9 486 101 &nbs p; 40.50 1 ODI cricket 18 665 98 &nbs p; 44.33 0 Rahul Dravid Test cricket 17 1455 146 &n bsp; 58.20 3 ODI cricket 58 1945 105 &n bsp; 41.38 2 Sachin Tendulkar Test cricket 12 534 109 &nb sp; 29.66 1 ODI cricket 36 1205 141* & nbsp; 40.16 3 V.V.S.Laxman Test cricket 16 917 140 &nb sp; 39.86 3 ODI cricket 3 29 22 9.66 0 Yuvraj Singh Test cricket 13 528 122 &nb sp; 31.05 1 ODI cricket 49 1852 120 &n bsp; 51.44 5 chappell big mistake was to push the players from comfort zone and bring professioanlism and treat all super stars alike. nobody is bigger than the team or game. he had guts to expose the ugly face of ind cricket while most of ind cricket experts blaming chappelll destory ind cricket.nobody speaks about the dirty politics of ind players chappell was recommended by ganguly and tim mody was recommeded by dravid. Now everybody appreciating the way srillankas are playing in WC
RE:Why dravid should be captain?
by Raam on Apr 09, 2007 09:56 AM Permalink
Match fixer Ajay and Politician Siddhu should stop speaking on cricket. May be for canvassing for sachin and saurav both of them might have received hefty sums!!
