Arvind, could not agree with you more. The Indian media (NDTV, CNN IBN et. all.) have been building up this Board meeting happening tomorrow as if it were a World Cup final. They made the same mistake when they did a build up to the World Cup, which one of the channels (Times Now) acknowledge after the debacle.
But they do not seem to have learnt from their mistake.
This boars meeting will be an eyewash. No one will be blamed, and it will hunky and dory, since we have a series with Bangladesh which we will obviously win (The reason I say this so confidently is because after such a humiliation, Sachin & co. will have some fire in their belly). And once this win hppens, our media will again go gaga over "revenge", "improvement" and all and sundry.
RE:Sachin be Indian Coach
by Suman Bhat on Apr 05, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
NDTV report said that sources very close to coach gave info...... it was not greg the report said senior players and the news did not mention any single name of any particular player The answer sachin given were drafted by a senior person of Saatchi and Saatchi- first goal of group is achieved getting rid of chappell next is dravid%u2026. toi The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
: When it really mattered, India's batsmen failed to deliver. Winning and defeat of team depands on performance of XI players irrespective of coach, pitch, stretagy and conditions. Bangladesh and SL victory against India is best example and a captain is as good as his team and it is individual palyer to deicide to support team and captain or play for self ?? When chappelll tried to give chance to youngesters many ppl said expereinece players required. When experienced failded now same ppl are asking for youngsters%u2026 If a player can get negative inspiration why can%u2019t same palyer /what is problem in getting positive inspiration play for team ??? How many players of team are counted in ICC ranking from 2004 onwards... It will tell the truth about performance of out players Ind%u2019s early exit from WC is b%u2019cuz lack of commitment to team cause some players deliberately played negative cricket and gifted the match to SL and bangladesh Winning and defeat of team depands on performance Is that a coach who told senior players to play slow, teaches star players to get out on zero, to do bad fielding and bowling on the ground, the important matches if senior players played poor? Give extra runs ? drop cahtches? When chappelll tried to give chance to youngesters many ppl said expereinece players required. When experienced failded now same ppl are asking for youngsters%u2026 What about performance of XI players of team??? If a player can get negative inspiration why t same palyer needs coach%u2019s help to gett positive inspiration play for team ???
chappell hold mirror of Indi cricket how it is hyjacked by power, politics, money, media. Chappell%u2019s big mistake he tried to treat all players alike and pushed the players from comfort zone. instead he was only kicked by players olitics, groupism negative cricket played by some seniors.. instead everybody is telling chappell destroyed the ind cricket.
RE:Sachin be Indian Coach
by kuntal banerjee on Apr 05, 2007 06:31 PM Permalink
On what basis are u believing Greg Suman.......just because he is a Aussie or a great player....Do u know he was involved in a under hand bowling story to win a match....and was a failed coach in Queensland(Australia)
Dravid has failed as a captain. I too like dravid,but only as a batsman, he lacks lot of abilities of captain. Look at pakistan's team, they failed more miserably than indian team, but inzy as a sportive captain took the whole responsibility of the failure. Thats the reason why you are nominated to be a captain. Rather than pushing the blame on other team members dravid should have accepted that it was his failure that he could not held all 11 together to work them as a team. What leadership quality has dravid shown from the time he has become captain? Look at jaywardhane, how he has mastered SL to a strong position, he ignited spark in ex-captain(jayasurya) who was out of form. This is a way to motivate a team. the way he manages his bowlers, fielders is exceptional for his stature and experience. What did dravid see in agarkar and harbhajan that they were played in place of pathan and kumble? agarkar cannot bowl and bat,and kumble is better option than bhajji. This show that dravid is not analytical and innovative(forget about irfan promoted to bat at number 3, its history now & moreover it was chapell's move). HOw many time has dravid involved key member of team for onfield discussion(other than sachin) he should take opinion of key players too. This proves that he does not believe in team work. Now with all these & more one can only conclude that Dravid himself is to a great extent responsible for indian cricket teams down fall
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by Suman Bhat on Apr 05, 2007 06:18 PM Permalink
captaincy myth when dravid made captain team was broken ship and ranked NO8th in ICC rankingnow even after so many defeats it is ranked NO 6th( till yesterday's varified) dravid is still No 12th in odi ranking . Indian captains in ODIs
Names Matches Won Lost Drawn/Tied Won%
Kapil Dev 74 40 32 2 54.05% M Azharuddin 173 89 76 6/2 51.45% SR Tendulkar 73 23 43 6/1 31.51% SC Ganguly 146 76 65 &nbs p; 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% dravid led team lesser no of matches and winning average is only 1.22% less than ganguly's success as captain b'cuz ganguly had advantage of leading team more nos of mathces and more lengthier period. Ganguly had god father called dalmiya and full support of bcci but dravid is criticized by chief slectore board officials etc%u2026 India team early exit is b%u2019cuz of dirty negative criket played delebartely by some senior player and chappell had guts to raise issue all senior players are responsible for WC debacle. Some players deliberately played negative cricket and gifted match to Bangladesh.IF players wer not ready to support team cause or captian, why blame captain and coach?? Many ppl say dravid is not inspirational captain and ganguly had that spark If players has to decide to play for team cause or self. And motivation /inspriration can be attained by self attempt ( by positive thinking and right mindset) captain can only tell but individual player has to believe in self strength. In big event like WC if players can get motivated to play negative cricket why can%u2019t they inspire to play for team???
were not ready to play for team cause, then how can captain Ganguly%u2019s media ageing singing one song dravid chapelll should go sachin should retire and ganguly should be captain and yuvraj make VC After his come back ganguly is playing for self to save his wkt and cement his place not even one performance did not for team cause. He is selfish oppertuinst and promote groupism no media makes noise about his dadagiri. Ganguly did not return with team, but when he arrived next day he was not in team uniform but some channel was highlighting it was warm return attitude%u2026.etc.. whole team is responsible for loss and why coach and captain made scapegoat If captain and coach has to go then sachin ganguly sewag zahirkahn harban, dhoni also be out of team
RE:Dravid not a good leader
by kuntal banerjee on Apr 05, 2007 06:28 PM Permalink
Hi Suman! I agree Dravid took captaincy when India was a broken ship....When Saurav took captaincy Indian team was going through match fixing problem with some great players under trouble...So I feel both took over during difficult situations
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by NA on Apr 05, 2007 05:46 PM Permalink
Why should I do that? you are self nominate for such jobs, please carry on. moreover try to post something reasonable,atleast readable
RE:Dravid not a good leader
by Suman Bhat on Apr 05, 2007 06:16 PM Permalink
ganguly and his gang should be thrown out team deliberarly played negative cricket and gifted match to bangaladesh to humiliate dravid. early world cup exit to prove dravid a poor captain ang ganguly stat of succes did not harm. when team players only betray the team why u blame coach and captain?? the root cause of problem is politician ganguly he dtiched dalmiay and dravid he can do it his chelas like bajji, dhonik zahir, yuvraj sewag??/ dravid anchored the scueess of ganguly as succes ful captain. but ganguly ditched dravid and WC is best event for that.team won 18 odis by cahsing without ganguly under dravid captaincy. ganguly had great comeback but always played for self , saving wkt, scoring runs to cement his place. in SA it is sreesant, pathan and dinesh karthick ganguly is promoting groupism. he did not built any team When ganguly was out and dravid made captain team was ranked 8 in ICC ranking, now even after early exit from WC it is ranked ^th and odi winning average difference is only 1.22% for dravid when comapred ganguly 5 yrs success. ganguly led team for more nos matches and had 38 wins againsst weaker side like kenya, namibia, Indian captains in ODIs
Names Matches Won Lost Drawn/Tied Won% Kapil Dev 74 40 32 2 54.05% M Azharuddin 173 89 76 6/2 51.45% SR Tendulkar 73 23 43 6/1 31.51% SC Ganguly 146 76 65 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% http://www.hindustantimes.in/htcricket/74_1959563.htm india team did not play as unit the body language and attitude of some players on the field was not encouraging ( as if they were playing a practice mathch) A captain is as good as his teammates some ganguly %u2018s marketing agents ( ex cricketers ) are screaming that draivd is not inspirational captain and ganguly should be reinstalled. If is player to get motivated and decide to play for team or self ( without help of coach and captian) IF PLAYERS CAN GET MOTIVATION/ INSPIRATION TO PLAY NEGATIVE CRICKET TO PLAY DELIBERATLY NEGATIVE CIRCKET to ditch captain and betray team, why cant%u2019 they be motivedted for playing for team. IF some players are not readyt o commit to team but not support captain and team why don%u2019t blame the individual players??
RE:Dravid not a good leader
by NA on Apr 05, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
stop writing crap Suman. What ever you have written has to do nothing with dravid's attitude as an captain. The fact is he has failed tremendously as a captain. Prove me wrong on the basis of the points that I have posted above. One more fact. I an ganguly hater, so no use in abusing ganguly , I am not going to say anything in his favour.
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by kuntal banerjee on Apr 05, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
Suman pasting this comment "ganguly and his gang should be thrown out team deliberarly played negative cricket and gifted match to bangaladesh to humiliate dravid. early world cup exit to prove dravid a poor captain ang ganguly stat of succes did not harm. when team players only betray the team why u blame coach and captain?? " ....Do u have logic to prove this or u are dancing on media reports...
