Lavakar loves to write distasteful and capricious articles denigrating the deposed India's achievers. Even after watching Chappell%u2019s antics for 2 years and seeing him rave and rant at the media, our dear Lavakar continues his "native-bashing" to gain the white man's favor. Wake up, Lava: quite saying "me love you long time..." to any old white man.
This is the age of Indian champions... be justly proud of our great achievers.
There are many "old" players like McGrath, Jayasurya, Jacques Kallis, who are doing great this WC. They were well "coached" and motivated by their captains. If these guys had Chappell, they would have sucked much worse than our oldies.
The Indian team looked very "badly coached" and totally lacked "leadership" on the field. So even bright young players looked lazy and confused on the field.
Every player (even stars) need to be "strategically" guided for EVERY GAME, since each game is different. The team cause is also badly hurt by a "cry-baby" captain like Dravid.
I am not qualified to comment on who should stay and who should not, in the Indian team. There are much better people than you or me to decide that. But I am sure about one thing. Greg Chappell failed at his job, so we need to hire someone else. And we need a motivator as a captain that can out-smart the opposition.
RE:Lavakar is A*Slicker
by Sandeep Ing on Apr 07, 2007 09:46 AM Permalink
Thakurta , you are one sick writer i have even seen.were you living in a dumpster when Dravid gave his unconditional support and sacrifices to all captians he played under. Just scratch your head and look back for last 5 years and you will know who was responsible for that ever little success india had .With due respects to all players, people should understand its a team game and contribute from bat and ball , leadership can only take the horse to the water but the horse as to drink it and not vommit. Better wake up now and write sensibly rather than blabbering rubbish .
RE:Lavakar is A*Slicker
by ABC XYZ on Apr 07, 2007 08:30 AM Permalink
Well said buddy!!! Lavakare like few other is still Chappell struck and cannot come out of it. If Tendulkar was unhappy with the decisions Lavakare mentions in his column, it was justified. Dravid has poor leadership skills and it has been demonstrated several times. He doesn't know how to back his team members. He kept on following what Greggu Dada told him to do until recently he got somewhat ackwardly stuck to Sehwag. If you declare an innings when a guy is few runs short of his double century without any resonable reason, the guy has every right to be angry.
RE:Lavakar is A*Slicker
by Truth Seeker on Apr 07, 2007 08:52 AM Permalink
I can understand why a selfish guy like Tendulkar keeps a grudge againts Dravid for declaring the innings before he makes his double century. But, why do you have to keep such things in mind, instead of thinking about the present. Dravid is a much better captain than Tendulkar ever was. Why do we need a player like Tendulkar who fails everytime we need him. It's better Tendulkar retires gracefully.
well actually there is no solution. if the board and selectors are going to play politics and get in bed with the hero-class players, the end result will continue to be a stinking mess just as it was in WC 07.
I read a column last week which made a very pointed and critical point: in an elite program such as Australia's, you do not get to play for the national team once your performance level drops. Period. End of conversation. No questioning the coach, or the captain, or the selectors. And that is how you ensure success, that is how you ensure that you field the best team in the land.
There is an old saying in American sports, There is no "I" in TEAM. But in India we have 11 I's and no team. Everyone is pulling their separate way. The result is there, sadly, for the world to see. And instead of being ashamed of their disgusting performance, our heros are pointing fingers at their leadership. Makes me sick to the stomach.
Would Ponting be Ponting we know today if he wasn%u2019t an Australian. Would he dominate if he was not playing against weaker attacks with less pressure than if he was playing against McGrath, Warne, Lee, Gillespie and the best of fielders to back them up?
These bowlers have a record, and they have destroyed the figures for many batsmen. Why do we blame Sachin if he failed against Australia? How many batsmen have dominated this Australian Team?
Is sachin the worst bowler in World or Indian Cricket %u2013 NO Is sachin the worst Fielder in World or Indian Cricket %u2013 NO Is sachin the worst batsman in World or Indian Cricket %u2013 Definitely No
So how come others deserve to be there and he doesn%u2019t. Do we have better players in the pipeline? Do you know?
So we lost! You are feeling bad. Entire India is feeling bad. The players are feeling worst.
People have now started crictizing how much money Sachin makes or what does he do after work? What did you think he would refuse millions? OR if this was Shah Rukh khan and give 3 flops in a row would you count his money too?
Would anyone of you like to be told what you should be doing once you get done with your work? Why condemn each and every move he makes. Would you all like your boss to sit on your head and count every mistake you make? How long would you last in that job???
Sachin and Sourav for that matter have done their jobs. Sachin broke almost all batting records and Sourav took us to the finals didn%u2019t he .Dravid continues to be the Wall and is consistent.
Seniors should retire, true. But do all have to go at once is the question .Raina, Badrinath Rohit Sharma great finds but don%u2019t they need experience around them to blossom. Didn%u2019t Sehwag find batting with Sachin useful? Or for that matter didn%u2019t sachin when he batted alongside experienced Azhar, Kapil. What happened to West Indies when most of their greats quit at once. They didn%u2019t have anyone to build a team around. Lara almost quit. But was given chances again and again and he did bounce back and is still going strong. What about Jayasuriya? SriLankans thought he was old, he was dropped but they give him all the support and brought him back and look how well is he doing.
Did anyone burn Herschelle Gibbs house when he dropped the all crucial Steve Waugh%u2019s catch in the world Cup. He was given a pat on the back and told well tried
Do you think it Sachin cares whether he makes an additional 100 crores considering all the abuse he is getting? Just how someone stated he already has 800 crores. Do you still think he needs to slog himself out on the cricket field and then work shoots for ads and get abused with all that money! Would anyone of you do it if you had that kind of money already . Would anyone start counting Shah Rukh Khans or Amitabhs money if they give three flops in a row!
We Indians want result fast! and we will try the next think possible to get these fast results. We lose one match drop selector, we lose two drop coach, we lose three drop senior players, we lose four drop younger players, and we lose world cup fire the entire team!
Sachin should be given another chance to bat where he is most comfortable and that is to open the innings. He never wanted to drop 2 down. He never performed there when he was initially brought into the scene. He broke all records while opening. Why would the stupid Australian Coach change that? Was it to cover Sehwag or Gangly because they don%u2019t know how to bat in any other position?
Last but not the least Sachin is just 33 and younger than 7 players in the Australian Squad.
Let%u2019s give him the support he deserves. If he is in the squad lets back him and if hes out let me go out gracefully will all of us standing and applauding. He deserves every bit of it!
RE:Spare a thought for Tendulkar - Pavan
by Truth Seeker on Apr 07, 2007 08:58 AM Permalink
I don't have patience to read your opinions, but how many players do you want in a team? Do you want 11 seniors and 11 juniors? Very funny!!
RE:Spare a thought for Tendulkar - Pavan
by Truth Seeker on Apr 07, 2007 09:01 AM Permalink
By the way, do you expect Sachin to play any better when he plays against Australia in future. He will fail again anyway. I guess, even after the next world cup, in which Sachin will for sure fail, you will ask everyone to give him a chance in 2015. Here's a word for you. Rebuilding. Think about it.
RE:Spare a thought for Tendulkar - Pavan
by pandu on Apr 07, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
what if sachin is 33 or 17, what matters really is whether he is playing or not? Every body know that he is not able to delivery as per his caliber.. He either needs rest, temporarily or once for all. Players who are currently playing only are to be given a chance, senior or junior no matters
RE:Spare a thought for Tendulkar - Pavan
by Xpress Myself on Apr 08, 2007 07:04 AM Permalink
Yes Aussies have players older than Sachin, but they are not in the team for 17 years and almost burnt out. Time for Sachin to say bye - may be we will not have any world records like Sachins but the country could groom young players to replace him - who knows may be he will have a better average overall, may not be records. Change is always better and good. We may not have good cricket or will loose a few games for not including a world class senior player, but eventually will have better contribution from a few young promisingplayers.
Mr. Lavakare, I respect your wisdom and experties on Cricket but try playing Cricket and reach 194 and then let your captain declare the innings. We would love to see your happy and excited face then.
Sachin knows Indian cricket better than Greg Chappel. In retrospect, Sachin's sending a signal that he should open the innings was right as the results of his playing at 6th position is for everyone to see.
As for Pawar's backing for Marathi people is concerned, not sure what would you call Dalmiya's backing of Ganguly OR Karnataka's 6 players in the team when Deve Gowda was PM. This is the way in India. This is the precedent. And I'm not sure if we should blame Pawar for that.
RE:Can't agree
by Ravi Jain on Apr 06, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
Mr. Pradhan displays the kind of mentality which explains why the so called stars can get away with non-performance. It shows the mania about statistics; who cares whether India wins or loses? Tendulkar has to get his 200 along with his other mostly useless centuries. As long as this star worship continues, jaded cricketers like Tendulkar, Ganguly, Sehwag, etc. will continue to ruin Indian cricket.
RE:Can't agree
by Ankit on Apr 07, 2007 12:40 AM Permalink
I despise people like yourself who form theories which result in futile solutions. Let's face it, changing a few faces in the team MIGHT resolve things temporarily. Remember when Ganguly was dropped and people didn't spare a thought for him when we were winning almost everything. As soon as we were mauled by SA, the first thing the selectors did was bring back Ganguly (and if you check the records he wasn't doing all that well in domestic cricket either).
The problem is the development of players. To give you an analogy, you are not going to become a software developer by using VB.Net occassionally. You have to be working in the environment regularly. Similarly, you can't expect to do well abroad if you play on those sort of pitches seldomly. You become an expert by doing so regularly. And that's where the problem is. We need to change the roots to see the results.
The cricketers you named will be the first ones you'll fall back on once your so-called youth brigade fails over and over again. I am certainly not against bringing in youth (after all they are the future), but we don't need to rush things to the extent that a few failures destroy their confidence. We need to develop them under diverse conditions (be it hostile for batting or bowling) to develop their all round cricketing skills. And to be brutally honest, I don't see that happening by dropping these players and bringing in a few rookies.
RE:RE:Can't agree
by ABC XYZ on Apr 07, 2007 08:38 AM Permalink
My dear Ankit,
You're clever not to mention that when Ganguly was brought back for Indian squad in South Africa, he did score and became the highest scorer keeping behind the so called young blood. So, why was it such a bad decision. To add to that back home, he was top scorer for both WI and Sri Lanka matches and was even declated Man of Series. So, you mean all that was hogwash. So, tell me why was it wrong to bring back GAnguly to squad when our young turks were repeatedly failing. Greg Chappell lacks vision and is a theory buff without any practical knowledge of coaching. A high egoist guy can never be a successful leader.
RE:Can't agree
by Xpress Myself on Apr 08, 2007 07:11 AM Permalink
There is a vast difference between Ganguly and Sachin. Sachin WAS a record making machine in cricket and is a money making machine where as Ganguly was not. Drop Sachin for a few games (which will never happen when Pawar is OWNS BCCI) for not playing well or out of form.... can he take it in a sportman spirit and rebound like Ganguly? He said cricket is his life.... it is time for him to prove it by contributing for the country and the fans who made him a national hero. Or gracefully quit...but who would like to loose the 400 million endorsements!
RE:Can't agree
by Ravi Jain on Apr 07, 2007 04:50 PM Permalink
Sure, if you get rid of the old guard and bring in young turks, the team may not start winning right away. But, they will at least put up a fight, show a hunger to win, be quick in fielding, and overall, play more entertaining cricket. I would rather see and enjoy a great team performance and spirit than a bunch of selfish and jaded stars piling runs against weak attacks.
Is it possible that some self-respecting indian lawyer will use the RTI act and gain acces to the coach's & manager's report? It's high time the "boys" nexus in the team - Seniors mafia - are called into question by the entire nation whe they let down to settle personal scores. Et Tu Tendulkar? You, of all people have come to such a pass? Shame on you, because your let-down is 100 times worse than the others' put together. All of you are just indian cricketers & not king makers. The time to clean up indian cricket is NOW. If BCCI doesnt do it, then the courts will have to.
RE:World Cup DEBACLE enquiry
by Vaibhav Pradhan on Apr 06, 2007 08:12 PM Permalink
How Tendulkar's let down is 100 times worse than others? If you want to put 100 times more blame on him then you have to give him 100 times more authority to begin with.
