Come on Sachin ! Deny everything what has been attributed to u. Start praising Greg now blaming the media ( like any other politician)and praise Greg like the complimentaries Pak team gave to their Coach.
why should Indian cricketers be denied of adds? They can act in adds, but but first let them remember that they are playing for dBCCUI and India, let the BCCI take the money from add give some %(?50%) to the players and use the rest of the money to the development of Indian cricket, develop the standards of ranji and train the next generation cricketrs and some money for charity and give some as pensions to thesse players only when they retire from the team.
How cowardice was it from Sachin to come out in Media and create the sas-bahu kinda emotional drama to divert his and team failure attention. Didn't he has enough courage to speak earlier?. No doubt he failed as a captain and on more than one occasion. I ask where is the performance?. Don't these so called super stars of indian cricket believe in themselves and their capabilities?. Fear of failure and security comes only when you either do not have talent or don't believe in urself and reach a position which you don't deserve. If you are good enough, you will automatically come back if you are dropped.
Gregg was a perfectionist and always played to win. He wanted to build an indian team who believe in themselves and do not fear of anyone. He needed a new blood as we can see how coward and sick are you super heros but unfortunately new blood also didn't live up to the expectation and he had to become the scapegoat of another typical plagued indian culture.
RE:Sachin u r a coward
by Rishab on Apr 05, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Oh my god. Get ready for the abuses that are going to follow. By the way i am not the Rishab who has posted this.
RE:Sachin u r a coward
by hitesh sharma on Apr 10, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Do you know whom you are talking about.... Sachin is coward.... this is the first time he opened his mouth..... this guy is the most serious criketer....yes his performance is at question today.... and you are right but his attitude i beg to differ.....he practics long hours he takes the ball when india is in difficult situation..... he does not perform in crunch matches .....but if he fails to perform india does not even reach a crunch match....the WC 07 is an example.... we forget his services because he did not perform in the final or semifinal yes but had he not performmed in the league stages we would not be in final or semifinal....
RE:Sachin u r a coward
by SRINIVASAN N on Apr 05, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
Sachin is a God to many a gullible indians. Make him a President as the post is falling vacant. He is a fit politician.
every body(senior) is silient,but sachin has broken out it means that he is one of the senior which has come out from the close associates of grep. he might have worried about what would happen after Greg has submitted his report, that is the reason to be safe side he has given these statements. "Fool of an ass" Sachin has lost his credibility and lost his fans
RE:sachin the culprit
by JAGBIR SINGH on Apr 05, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
Dear Friend Pls read this. then only think again :
People have often criticised Sachin for not being a match winner. Here is a compilation made by a big sachin fan Source : Message on rediff message boards When many people say how many of Sachin's hundreds have come for a winning cause, I decided to check the Cricinfo stats and here are the results. Out of the 41 hundreds, 11 hundreds have gone in vain. I will try to analyse each of them.
1. 137 off 137 balls Vs SriLanka at Delhi in 1996 World Cup. India scored 271/3 in 50 overs. The only other 50 score was from Azhar. SL made 272 in 48.4 overs. Manoj Prabhakar had 4-0-47-0. He also opened in the innings with Sachin and scored 7 of 36 balls.
2. 100 of 111 Balls Vs Pak in Singapore- Apr 96. India 226 all out in 47.1 overs, When Sachin was out score was 186/4. Pak had a reduced target of 187 from 33 overs. 3. 110 of 138 Balls vs Sri Lanka In Colombo - Aug 96. Again India 226 for 5 in 50 overs, Only other 50 score from Azhar (58 of 99 balls).Sachin has also bowled 6-0-29-1, the second most economical bowler and the only wicket taker (SL were 230/1 in 44.2) of the match next to Srinath. 7 bowlers were used by Azhar.
4. 143 of Balls Vs Aus at Sharjah, Apr 1998. This was chasing under lights. The qualifying match before the final. The whole world knows about this match. Still one interesting point, when Sachin was out India were 242 at 5 at 43 overs. Target was 276 in 46. Still India finished at 250/5 scoring just 8 of the next 3 overs. Great performance indeed.
5. 101 of 140 Balls against SL at Sharjah in Oct 2000. Indian score was 224/8 in 50 overs. (No other 50 score). SL got 225/5 in 43.5, Sachin also bowled 5-0-22-0, better economy rate than everyone except Srinath.
6. 146 of 153 Balls against Zimbabwe at Jodhpur - December 2000 India made 283 / 8 in 50 overs. Sachin was the last man to be dismissed, score was 235/8 at 46.3 overs when he was out. Agarkar and Zaheer Khan propelled India to 283 in the last 3.3 overs. When Sachin has scored 146 of 235 in 46.3 overs, you can guess what the other 8 great batsmen were doing against the World class Zimbabwe attack. Second Highest scorer was Zaheer Khan with 32. Zim got 284/9 in 49.5 overs. Agarkar bowled the last over. Sachin also got 6-0-35-1
7. 101 of 129 Balls Vs SA at Johannesburg - Oct 2001 India got 279/5 in 50, Ganguly made 127 of 126 balls. When Ganguly got out, the score was 193-1 in 35.2 overs. Sachin was the last man to get out at 263. SA got 280 in 48.4 overs. Sachin bowled 9-0-51-0, second best in economy rate next only to Agarkar (10-0-45-1)
8. 141 of 135 balls Vs Pak at Rawalpindi, March 2004. India were chasing 329 and were 317 all out in 48.4 overs, 8 balls to spare. No other batsman made even a 50 (when chasing 300 ) and when Sachin was out, India were 245-4 in 38.4 overs. They needed 85 from 68 balls with 6 wickets in hand.
9. 123 of 130 Balls vs Pak at Ahmedabad, April 2005. India made 315/6 in 48 overs (48 over match), again no other 50 score. Second highest was Dhoni 47 of 64 balls, (third highest was extras - 39). Pak made 319 in 48 overs. The three quicks (Balaji, Nehra and Khan went for 188 runs from 26 overs between them taking only 2 wickets). Sachin bowled 6-0-36-1. No Harbhajan and no Kumble.
10. 100 of 113 Balls Vs Pak at Peshawar, Feb-2006. India were 328 all out in 49.4 overs. Pathan and Dhoni got 60 each. When Sachin was out when India were 305-5 in 45 overs. Managed only 23 in the last 5 overs. Pak scored 311/7 in 47 overs and won by D/L method. Could have been anybody's game. Sachin did not bowl. 11. 141* of 148 balls vs WI at Malaysia. India made 309 /5 in 50 overs. Sachin was not out. Pathan was the only other 50 scorer. WI made 141/2 in 20 overs and won by D/L method. Again could have been anybody's game.
In the other 31 instances India has won 30 times and once there was no result.
Now, please think again when you say sachin's 100s were in the losing cause and that he is not a team player. It is a fact that for the entire 90's India played International cricket with 1 player and 10 jokers.
RE:sachin the culprit
by RAJIVE on Apr 07, 2007 07:50 AM Permalink
Yes..Well done Jagbir !! What more you can ask from Sachin!! as far as the past is concerned. But people are forced to remember forever his poor performance in WC07.
Jagbir you need to post this analysis at least 2 times a day..so that abuse against Sachin can be controlled a bit. Yor this analysis can calm all.
NDTV report said that sources very close to coach gave info...... it was not greg the report said senior players and the news did not mention any single name of any particular player The answer sachin given were drafted by a senior person of Saatchi and Saatchi- first goal of group is achieved getting rid of chappell next is dravid%u2026. toi The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
While India's players blame their recent poor form on everything from a manipulative coach to a sense of insecurity to an indifferent captain, the plain truth is this: When it really mattered, India's batsmen failed to deliver. Winning and defeat of team depands on performance of XI players irrespective of coach, pitch, stretagy and conditions. Bangladesh and SL victory against India is best example and a captain is as good as his team and it is individual palyer to deicide to suppor team and captain or play for self ?? I When chappelll tried to give chance to youngesters many ppl said expereinece players required. When experienced failded now same ppl are asking for youngsters%u2026 If a player can get negative inspiration why can%u2019t same palyer /what is problem in getting positive inspiration play for team ???
It was all about attitude, feels BCCI There are five players in the team whose http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms
Winning and defeat of team depands on performance of XI players irrespective of coach, pitch, stretagy and conditions. Bangladesh and SL victory against India is best example and a captain is as good as his team and it is individual palyer to deicide to suppor team and captain or play for self ?? I When chappelll tried to give chance to youngesters many ppl said expereinece players required. When experienced failded now same ppl are asking for youngsters%u2026 If a player can get negative inspiration why can%u2019t same palyer /what is problem in getting positive inspiration play for team ???
Ind%u2019s early exit from WC is b%u2019cuz lack of commitment to team cause some players deliberately played negative cricket and gifted the match to SL and bangladesh and. Interresting to see How DESI coach will to motivater players like Tendulkar,Ganguli, herbajan, zahirkhan, sewag, agarkar and others %u2026%u2026. Chappell, would most probably be picked by Subhash Chandra for his Indian Cricket League
The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
Correct. What Sachin did is unprofessional. The professional way to do it is to let Chappell say what he wants and have it leaked to the media with the help of sms'es to media people, indirect means such as the "close sources suggest" means or the "oops, how stupid of me to include a top journalist's name in the BCC field of my e-mail to the BCCI (no pun intended)".
But how could Sachin do this to all of us? How could he? How can anyone be so unprofessional as to speak his mind to the media? And that too directly? It's heresy.
So what if the entire Indian team (except for the ever-silent Rahul Dravid) is against the Chappal...err Chappell. It is wrong to offend the coach like this. Even in the ages of war, kings would give special treatment to mercenaries. Come on, you pay for them remember?
RE:SACHIN HOW DARE YOU?
by Suman Bhat on Apr 05, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779 Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar April 4, 2007 http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.htmlwas what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'
Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm
RE:SACHIN HOW DARE YOU?
by Patriot on Apr 05, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
How does this pertain to what I said? The point was that if Chappell could use underhand means to get ALL (literally ALL) his thoughts to the media then Sachin was at least man enough to speak "on the face" instead of "behind the back".
RE:SACHIN HOW DARE YOU?
by JAGBIR SINGH on Apr 05, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
Dear Friend Pls read this. then only think again :
People have often criticised Sachin for not being a match winner. Here is a compilation made by a big sachin fan Source : Message on rediff message boards When many people say how many of Sachin's hundreds have come for a winning cause, I decided to check the Cricinfo stats and here are the results. Out of the 41 hundreds, 11 hundreds have gone in vain. I will try to analyse each of them.
1. 137 off 137 balls Vs SriLanka at Delhi in 1996 World Cup. India scored 271/3 in 50 overs. The only other 50 score was from Azhar. SL made 272 in 48.4 overs. Manoj Prabhakar had 4-0-47-0. He also opened in the innings with Sachin and scored 7 of 36 balls.
2. 100 of 111 Balls Vs Pak in Singapore- Apr 96. India 226 all out in 47.1 overs, When Sachin was out score was 186/4. Pak had a reduced target of 187 from 33 overs. 3. 110 of 138 Balls vs Sri Lanka In Colombo - Aug 96. Again India 226 for 5 in 50 overs, Only other 50 score from Azhar (58 of 99 balls).Sachin has also bowled 6-0-29-1, the second most economical bowler and the only wicket taker (SL were 230/1 in 44.2) of the match next to Srinath. 7 bowlers were used by Azhar.
4. 143 of Balls Vs Aus at Sharjah, Apr 1998. This was chasing under lights. The qualifying match before the final. The whole world knows about this match. Still one interesting point, when Sachin was out India were 242 at 5 at 43 overs. Target was 276 in 46. Still India finished at 250/5 scoring just 8 of the next 3 overs. Great performance indeed.
5. 101 of 140 Balls against SL at Sharjah in Oct 2000. Indian score was 224/8 in 50 overs. (No other 50 score). SL got 225/5 in 43.5, Sachin also bowled 5-0-22-0, better economy rate than everyone except Srinath.
6. 146 of 153 Balls against Zimbabwe at Jodhpur - December 2000 India made 283 / 8 in 50 overs. Sachin was the last man to be dismissed, score was 235/8 at 46.3 overs when he was out. Agarkar and Zaheer Khan propelled India to 283 in the last 3.3 overs. When Sachin has scored 146 of 235 in 46.3 overs, you can guess what the other 8 great batsmen were doing against the World class Zimbabwe attack. Second Highest scorer was Zaheer Khan with 32. Zim got 284/9 in 49.5 overs. Agarkar bowled the last over. Sachin also got 6-0-35-1
7. 101 of 129 Balls Vs SA at Johannesburg - Oct 2001 India got 279/5 in 50, Ganguly made 127 of 126 balls. When Ganguly got out, the score was 193-1 in 35.2 overs. Sachin was the last man to get out at 263. SA got 280 in 48.4 overs. Sachin bowled 9-0-51-0, second best in economy rate next only to Agarkar (10-0-45-1)
8. 141 of 135 balls Vs Pak at Rawalpindi, March 2004. India were chasing 329 and were 317 all out in 48.4 overs, 8 balls to spare. No other batsman made even a 50 (when chasing 300 ) and when Sachin was out, India were 245-4 in 38.4 overs. They needed 85 from 68 balls with 6 wickets in hand.
9. 123 of 130 Balls vs Pak at Ahmedabad, April 2005. India made 315/6 in 48 overs (48 over match), again no other 50 score. Second highest was Dhoni 47 of 64 balls, (third highest was extras - 39). Pak made 319 in 48 overs. The three quicks (Balaji, Nehra and Khan went for 188 runs from 26 overs between them taking only 2 wickets). Sachin bowled 6-0-36-1. No Harbhajan and no Kumble.
10. 100 of 113 Balls Vs Pak at Peshawar, Feb-2006. India were 328 all out in 49.4 overs. Pathan and Dhoni got 60 each. When Sachin was out when India were 305-5 in 45 overs. Managed only 23 in the last 5 overs. Pak scored 311/7 in 47 overs and won by D/L method. Could have been anybody's game. Sachin did not bowl. 11. 141* of 148 balls vs WI at Malaysia. India made 309 /5 in 50 overs. Sachin was not out. Pathan was the only other 50 scorer. WI made 141/2 in 20 overs and won by D/L method. Again could have been anybody's game.
In the other 31 instances India has won 30 times and once there was no result.
Now, please think again when you say sachin's 100s were in the losing cause and that he is not a team player. It is a fact that for the entire 90's India played International cricket with 1 player and 10 jokers.
Correct. What Sachin did is unprofessional. The professional way to do it is to let Chappell say what he wants and have it leaked to the media with the help of sms'es to media people, indirect means such as the "close sources suggest" means or the "oops, how stupid of me to include a top journalist's name in the BCC field of my e-mail to the BCCI (no pun intended)".
But how could Sachin do this to all of us? How could he? How can anyone be so unprofessional as to speak his mind to the media? And that too directly? It's heresy.
So what if the entire Indian team (except for the ever-silent Rahul Dravid) is against the Chappal...err Chappell. It is wrong to offend the coach like this. Even in the ages of war, kings would give special treatment to mercenaries. Come on, you pay for them remember?
RE:SACHIN HOW DARE YOU?
by Patriot on Apr 05, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Maqsood, do you understand the word "sarcasm"? Read my entire message again and you'll realize how stupidly you reacted before reading and understanding whose side I spoke for.
Don't need to wonder who reported your message for abuse. And I will continue to report all those messages for abuse who think bad language is the way to make a point.
with your nominees. Why not write emails to the media telling about your find. Lets stop blaming Sachin or Greg or anyone and start to suggest the replacements. Can we start discussions on what format of selection we should have. The Ranji system is appalling, because only the semifinalist teams are watched for selection, thereby ignoring potential good individual players let down by their team mates or misfortune. My suggestion is to have all the bowlers of the state teams come together at some venue and play the top batsmen from India and invitees of the calibre of Ricky Ponting or Kallis and an evaluation made. Vice Versa for batsmen. Fielders and wicket keepers can also be selected. WE must always have an excellent Fielder who can bat in the team. Fielders save runs and take catches which helps in getting agrip on the match. Ganguly or Dravid may dive but they wont ever be as effective as Kaif. Five batsmen who can together consistently score 250 one fielder five bowlers who can restrict the score to around 250 or get them all out in 50 overs. I think if we need good talent to come forward we need to promote them. Atleast one good player may come forward if people appreciate real talent.
RE:Bat stopped talking
by harsh p on Apr 05, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
its not that , all he has said is nobody had questioned his attitude (Not batting) & that hurt. He has in no way lashed out at chappell, his comments were combined with other (unnamed)players arsh comments & thats why it looks so bad. He has been very polite indeed.
Chappell resigned to avoid the humiliation of being fired. He must be thanking Sachin for his remarks as his excuse. Believe me that's how most Americans and Australians play their politics. They are much better in playing politics than the Indians.
