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How is Chappell responsible?
by Bankim Mazumdar on Apr 03, 2007 02:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I would like to put it this way "What is Chappell's contribution to Indian cricket for last two years. What exceptional thing has he done, which Amarnath or Madan Lal or Sandeep Patil could not have done?"

Chappell has succeeded in vertically dividing India in the sense that the souterners denigrate Ganguly, Tendulkar, Sehwag and Harbhajan. Nortehers/ Easterners are equally vehement in denigrating Dravid's meak captaincy.

What Team Australlia failed to do in cricketing field, Chappell has succeeded doing single handedly by playing politics and GETTING PAID FOR THAT, too!

Chappell's contribution to team building is a big ZERO. Let him gracefully fly back to Canbera!

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RE:How is Chappell responsible?
by bharat on Apr 03, 2007 02:45 PM  Permalink
The Indian players led by Ganguly are masters at such divisive politics. We do not need Chappel for this.

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RE:How is Chappell responsible?
by Krishnakumar Kannan on Apr 03, 2007 02:57 PM  Permalink
Yeah that is whay they went to the finals!!!!!

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agree with the author
by Vinod Bijlani on Apr 03, 2007 02:39 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

couldnt agree more with this article. i cant remmember when i have seen indian gods playing for team. flexibility is always a problem with them coz the thinking is not to win as a team. thought process is how can i excel as a individual. how can i create world records. feeling of insecurity with the senior players shows the attitude towards the game.

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RE:agree with the author
by Meghnath Das on Apr 03, 2007 02:55 PM  Permalink
You will agree with anything because you are very much flexible.

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Plz read:
by ujjwal on Apr 03, 2007 02:38 PM  Permalink 

Pls check the follwing url at Hindu, a Chennai national daily.



http://www.hindu.com/2007/04/03/stories/2007040304702000.htm

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Silly remark...
by Arvind Swarup on Apr 03, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink 

"That's why they are where they are and Srikanth is on the idiot box."

look at it yourself and you will realize that there is no logic in this statement of yours... only emotion and hurry.

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Chappel perhaps should continue...
by Vibhu Sharma on Apr 03, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

More or less, agree with the assessment in this article. The team for the world cup was pretty much ok.. though given the WI pitches, Kumble should have been preferred over Harbhajan and Pathan over Agarkar (because both bowl equally bad, but Pathan is a way better batsman)

So I really could not find much fault with Chappel or Dravid in this debacle. And not because of just this tournament, most of the ideas and strategic decisions were actually quite reasonable. And though I supported Ganguly as an opener in One dayers, his self-serving interest to eat up the deliveries did cost the team.

It all started with Saurav being taken out of his comfort zone. And honestly, no matter how keen a fan I am of his One-day strength, I could not find a fault with Chappel regarding his assessment of the team and individuals. Before we go further, I would also like to divide this discussion in two separate sections: One for Tests and other for One-dayers because these are different games with different parameters... Much like a 400 meters is different from a Marathon.

Let us take the proverbial bull by its horns and start with why the Prince of Kolkata had to take a break. To me, he has been the most effective opening one-day batsman India ever had. Better than Srikanth, better than Sehwag... and at times, even better than Tendulkar (especially when no bouncers were allowed). Given his reluctance to run and preference to hit boundaries made him a perfect choice to bat when field was up. Someone like Sehwag or Uthappa being the perfect partner - which was the case in this World cup as well.

However, his One-day prowess was somehow mistaken for his Tests as well. This was a huge mistake that was persisted with over the years (long before Chappel came). Commentators, awed by this One-day achievements would take his name alongside Dravid, Laxman, Tendulkar - which I think was improper to say the least. When it comes to tests, you become great when you have proved your mettle against the best. Gavaskar is not great because he scored 34 test centuries, but he is a legend because he made 13 of those (close to 3000 runs) against the might of the Windies of that era when no-one else could cross 3. He brought out his best against the best. Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman fit that bill therefore... as they have been their best against the best. Centuries, Double centuries, match winning and saving innings in India against abroad against the best of bowling attacks. The prince of Kolkata fails in this test. Whether in India, or abroad, he has failed to make a century or a double century against quality opposition attack - a little wonder that his test century count is a ZERO against South Africa, Pakistan, West Indies and the sole century against Australia was in a drawn match with no Mcgrath, Lee, Warne... And even against the current England team with a better bowling attack, he came a cropper. Just no justification no matter how fond I am of his One day game (at least before world cup). In a way, he was - and still is, no different from a Vinod Kambli - great start to the test career, but never again - when the going got tough.

In tests, against quality opposition therefore, his was a wicket wasted... His test career in a way (not his fault at all) came in way of the likes of Laxman at times, and at times Yuvraj and did not do well for the balance of the team - an unfortunate development indeed.

Chappel, given his keen eye and no favorites, saw through this. And I can not find a fault with that... no objective person would. Where it became ugly was when it was assumed that he is not good in One dayers as well. Perhaps a better way would have been to assure him of his place in the One day team and manage his career in that form of the game. But then the ugly politics, greed for power and money turned this whole affair into a media delight and polarized the team. So although he made it back to the side, it was inevitable that this would destroy the team spirit - something that was visible in the World cup. There was no team. It was natural, expected and unfortunate.

Had Ganguly continued to be an integral and assured part of the One day setup and opted out of the test arena, that would have been a sane, objective, honest and best possible solution.

Lets move to Tendulkar now. Again, a hero of millions and perhaps the most talented ever. But to me, he is a like a child prodigy, a genius, an artist who can exhibit and delight his fans... when not under pressure. Period. As long as it is not the fourth innings of a test with pressure on, you can expect him to deliver. As long as he is not chasing a tricky total in a crucial one day game (say finals of tournaments), you can expect artistry. He is a natural... and nature nurtures when there is no oppression. In his case, pressure makes his mind go into extra cautious approach and he then falters. As a captain, I dont remember seeing him 'ENJOY' the game. Always seemed tensed, stressed and not at his innovative best. As a coach, Chappel perhaps understood that. I also felt that him moving down the order was a good move simply because that clears his mind a bit. If he goes into bat after 20, 25 or even 30 overs, knowing he needs to score, he would go for his shots backing his natural ability. So as a strategy and assessment, I think Chappel was spot on here as well.

Laxman is perhaps the most unfortunate of the lot. Best test player against the best teams. It is fine not to keep him in the team when playing on flat-beds where 300 is par score, but when on pitches where 250 is more than par and opposition is good, he needs to be in the team. But as long as his Test career is not compromised, I think he should be an asset for next few years.

Chappel, however, got a bit unlucky when some of the experiments did not pay off. The caribbean tour was a disaster and as a result, selectors imposed their will and Ganguly was back. He was not the Ganguly of the One-dayers that we all knew. In the world cup match against Bangladesh, his super-slow batting in a way put pressure on the likes of Yuvraj to go for big shots. He seemed more keen on securing his place rather than playing for the team. You can't blame him for feeling insecure given all that had transpired before. He would have been his best had he not been dropped from the One day squad in the first place - because he deserved to be in there in the first place. But just like the selectors did not have the judgement initially to confuse his One day success with Test success, they confused his Tests limitations with One day limitations.

It is about time people see beyond paper facts and look at real capabilities of these players. To overlook Kumble and Pathan off late is another aspect that needs review. If instead of Agarkar and Harbhajan, Pathan and Kumble had played these matches, things might have been different. Overall, I think, the current set of team members and order:

Utthappa, Ganguly as openers
Sehwag, Dravid, Tendulkar, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Pathan in the middle and
Zaheer, Munaf, Kumble as tail

is really the best combination we could have had for the World Cup.

So let's learn from these mistakes and not support our local or regional or state heros, but rather examine the intent of the coach and objectivity of the individual team members. Chappel had the right intentions and the board needs to support him for another term and give a free hand.

BTW: Any idea how one can post Articles on Rediff?

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RE:Chappel perhaps should continue...
by Ashok on Apr 03, 2007 02:39 PM  Permalink
ples, kan u gif short samary of ur hartical. is 2 lengti to rid anyhow

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RE:Chappel perhaps should continue...
by Circuit on Apr 03, 2007 02:43 PM  Permalink
Just 5 Secs to cut and paste



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RE:Chappel perhaps should continue...
by bharat on Apr 03, 2007 02:40 PM  Permalink
You are totally wrong!

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RE:Chappel perhaps should continue...
by Meghnath Das on Apr 03, 2007 02:48 PM  Permalink
You wrote a lot of bogus statements with your hard effort. thanks for this.

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Lack of motivation
by Tondrapu Rao on Apr 03, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink 

with due respect Mr Arvind Lavakare I cannot compleately agree with you .Coach should be a motivator..should first understand the basics of every conditions,what are the conditions that suit the indian players under which they flourish and then extract the best under their terms the way John wright did.Players are expected to play well for self or for country doesnt matter ,untill they perform the games would be won.Then comes the roles of each as part of team..greg made the team so much insecure and filled with mistrust and the result what it is.Just for guess how the same team were looking invincible under john wright and looks like a minnows under Greg.This short of guys should be overthrown as they induce more negative factors than positive ones.
Sauravs comeback tells the story about struggle ..and gives us something to tell others about how one should not loose hope.
OF course i do believe the other person should be thrown out is Dravid and the same facts holds right for him he is more negative than being positive.
Guess a captain leads a bunch of inexperiance players and goes till final of world cup..and one who hold the experts and quits out in the first round..and you will agree with me.
My thoughts are very simple.Dravid and Chappel should be thrown out.Saurav and sachin should play for india for couple of years,groom the next breed as they are the examples of struggle,greatness and all the qualities thats need of the day....
Dravid and men like him should be no no to the team...


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Then what are Coaches and Captains for???
by manoj kumar on Apr 03, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

If you say Chappell cant be blamed because of the failure, i must say this- We dnt require managers nor superiors even in a Job. A sales manager leads a team and make them deliver by polishing their skills , boosting confidence and shoing the way. Any underachievement directly reflects on his ability to lead a team.

Same is the case here. If chappell and Rahul cant be balmd why are they paid for??????

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RE:Then what are Coaches and Captains for???
by bharat on Apr 03, 2007 02:38 PM  Permalink
Coaches are for passengers to travel in and captain is another name for ship driver.

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RE:Then what are Coaches and Captains for???
by Hari Balaji on Apr 03, 2007 02:41 PM  Permalink
absolutely correct but still there r senior players who know their responsibility very well and had got lot of experience to know and play according to the situation. A coach or captain can't make them to play sensible shot when team is in pathetic situation. No point blaming captain or coach.

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RE:[object]
by manoj kumar on Apr 03, 2007 02:43 PM  Permalink
Hari, blaming only captain or caoch is not correct . i agree with that . But peformance culture and team building , these two things are the responsibility of these two

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RE:Then what are Coaches and Captains for???
by manoj kumar on Apr 03, 2007 02:41 PM  Permalink
i must also add this ! Author is asking on why experts have not asked this question that question. Chappell was a gret cricketer adn thats why heb is been selected for this job. His job is see all these. Other wise any tom dick and harry can be selected

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IF ONLY EVERY BODY WILL THINK LIKE Arvind Lavakare
by George William on Apr 03, 2007 02:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

A very good article bringing out the reality that is in Indian Cricket. Mail this to Sharad Pawar so he will understand whats wrong in Indian Cricket.

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RE:IF ONLY EVERY BODY WILL THINK LIKE Arvind Lavakare
by bharat on Apr 03, 2007 02:36 PM  Permalink
Sharad Pawar does not know how to use a computer. E-mail will not reach him. Better send a telegram.

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Indian Cricket Reality
by Hari pn on Apr 03, 2007 02:34 PM  Permalink 

Except Dravid, none has the capacity to bat 25 overs (a chanceless inning). Others have no determination to fight back in crisis situation.

They get out on unforced error(ordinary ball) and throw away the wicket at crisis time.



Again, our spinners are pretty ordinary and their spin pronouncement is not as good as what we see like Shane Warne or Muthiah Murali.



Our fast bowlers still lack the pace of what Shane Bond and Brett Lee is throwing.....



Our fielders are not as agile like Ireland or Newzealand due to physical fitness level. They dive after the bowl departed..



Then why people are wasting time, thinking of Indian debacle.... accusing our players.. take it for granted our standard... they can not do more.



Can a Brazilain football coach make India win a Football World Cup?





Be optimistic! at least we have participated in World Cup Cricket!











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True state of indian cricket and indian public
by Av Va on Apr 03, 2007 02:33 PM  Permalink 

This article has so many truth in it. I appreciate for its true picture.



First thing first- why do we need 7 batsmen when we claim our batting line up as the best in the world. Secondly - why do sachin need to change his batting approach from his past? - he could have been effective and more respected by the bowlers around. thirdly - what has ganguly done by making a so called heroic comeback -- nothing other than a few fifties for his individual stats -- never a team player. Forth--why should we differentiate players from state to state or rather region to region? Fifth -- why are we blaming the coach all the time, when india lose -- it is the player who go out in the middle and perform, not the coach,a coach can only be a guiding factor, thats it. Sixth - A captain - Dravid should be more aggresive and decision making person, risk taking person.



Bring in some energy into the Indian team, thats the need of the hour.



A disappointed fan on indian cricket

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