Put in a simple way: Shouldn't we start hating cricket now? Cricket is a little game played by around 10 number of countries and mostly fan-based in the sub-continent. Being not adored by a large part of the world, successes and defeats in this game doesnt bring a worldwide recognition. If you go to say 'cricket' to most English speaking nationals, the first picture that would come to their mind would be the insect. This is probably because sporting fans of more developed nations may not be ready to devote time to a full day event like cricket. Or because the action part of cricket - the ball meeting the bat is trivialized by the long gaps between successive balls and centralization of super action periods around the initial and final stages of the innings.
At the same time, the recognition of the game in the sub-continent is huge. This is probably because of a narrow outlook of sport fans who think that no other popular game would fare well here - In cricket we would at least stay in the top 10 always. So since there is no other game that we shine, people take interest to cricket. The excessive media glare adds to the woes. But on the other hand, if we give attention to other games, we can become a good contender in that. At least, we should shed this inferiority complex and go ahead. Let us take examples of Sania, Anju Bobby, Jeev Milkha, Rathore etc... All those mentioned may not be the very best in their fields - but they were the ones who were bold enough to try out other things - think out of the box and make a mark. The excessive media interference is doing no good to the team. At least we should stop worshiping them until they come off well. I may be talking like a novice but how many 400 totals have India got? Just one, right? Even if the opposite team bowls all legal deliveries the max that a batting team can score is 1800 runs. But scores of 300 plus are considered good and 400 superlative. Is it the way cricket is played or is it a defect in our perspective? Isnt cricket an underutilized game? Arent the batsmen who we consider Demi-Gods nowhere near there? Time to ponder.. Time to change.. Otherwise let us turn our attention to other games!!!!
RE:Cricket is no sportsman's game
by Annie on Apr 23, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
You are right we need to play other sports as well, but regardless of that, this is free country and people are free to worship Sachin, ganuly or whomever they wish (however misplaced there faith may be).
I nearly choked on my tea when i read this - "Even if the opposite team bowls all legal deliveries the max that a batting team can score is 1800 runs. But scores of 300 plus are considered good and 400 superlative. Is it the way cricket is played or is it a defect in our perspective?" - Dude!! that's a 6 on every delivery (did you mean batting teams or batting machines??), either your crazy or you've NO knowledge of cricket, and the answer to your question is that there is a defect NOT in our perspective but in YOUR'S (about cricket).
RE:Cricket is no sportsman's game
by Freek Guy on Apr 24, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
I know Annie, its difficult to change perspectives.. unless you grow... Till about 2 years ago, even 400 plus was considered impossible. but now there are so many teams coming up with that.. even India has done that.. My point was why India is always behind others to reach such milestones? It is because right from over 1, we try to make just 5 or 6 per over... If we are able to do that, we are happy.. No more improvement.. Why not try to make 10 per over from the beginning.. and be the first team in the world to cross 500.. Here is where you need a different perspective.. Most limits are set in our minds, not reflecting the realities..
RE:REMOVE DRAVID
by Indian on Apr 23, 2007 11:42 AM Permalink
45% of Indians are illiterate and 90% are uneducated (some literates also). why r u wasting ur time nanda ?? Let them be happy if they think Saurav is criminal/politician or bla bla bla, when India is start loosing again then they will find some other scapegoat and will accuse the as criminal/politician etc etc. Only Dravid will remain as the holy cow.... let him be the holy one. Don't waste ur time....
RE:[object]
by Suman Bhat on Apr 24, 2007 12:24 AM Permalink
dravid performs on the field so he won 3 ICC awards which never happened to any other players. it is not dravid but 2 ex captain superstars played backstgae politics, major role in WC debacle and instead of fighting battle on the WI ground playing dirty politics in dressing room ganguly is main culprit he is selfish, oppertunits cunning politician
RE:REMOVE DRAVID
by Kart on Apr 23, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
Why doesn't the Indian public have patience.After three series the captain is going to be changed.I know India hates Dravid.The selectors also do not like Dravid.If somebody else becomes the captain, he will try and drop Dravid.In today's paper TOI Lara has spoken highly of Dravid.Iam sure now he won't be liked by the Indians. This shows that though Indians do not respect Dravid.He is respected outside India.According to Indian he is the best and rest all are fools.Hey You have a attitude problem!
RE:REMOVE DRAVID
by Indian on Apr 23, 2007 12:38 PM Permalink
Dear Kart, Nobody questions Dravid's ability as a batsman. u can't put a single quesion mark on dravid's batting abilitise or commitment. But the problem is that , he is not a captaincy material, please try to understand this. His bodylanguage is shaky in the field, it is affecting his batting too nowadays, I don't know why he is still sticking to the captains job. He looks clueless, and a wise or clever captain wud have never allowed his team to get divide into 2 halves at such crucial outing for the country as well as for the team.
I strongly believe that bengalis should stop favouring Saurav. He was the himself responsible for his exit from the indian team. He was playing horribly for almost 2 years. How can u favour a non performing player just because he is a bengali. Are u not just a bengali and not an indian.
We should leave aside all racism for the benifit of the country.
Whoever performs shall remain, else should exit.
I praise Lara and Inzy for their unselfish act of leaving the side when they are not able to perform. But our cricketers (Tendulkar, Saurav, Shewag) wont leave their places until and unless they are kicked off.
RE:RE:Bengalis, Stop favouring Saurav.
by joseph kumar on Apr 23, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
You are right Mr. Majahid Shaikh, Sourav was a good player but not right now. He can come with good scores in local matches if he does so he can be in indian team. But in india if a player plays local matches he is not counted for ads. So everyone wants to be in indian team but will not perform.
Take a good team not by money r power. Pick the team by merit. Then there is so many options in India.
RE:Bengalis, Stop favouring Saurav.
by mohan on Apr 23, 2007 01:46 PM Permalink
I agree to you certain extent; Are you sure Saurav not performing 2 years, he is only playing past few month after a long break given by Chappel and co. and he proved them wrong and you say he is not performing. Then what you got to say the non performing players like Shewag, Kaif, Tendulkar, etc., I agree to "who ever perform remains" Shewag inclusion in WC is a good example and it paid us dearly in the match against Bangladesh.
U have repeatedly posted the same message and irritated no of forum users, what for????
Why dont u yourself take a initiative to file a case stating u r hurt the way Saurav was treated, no doubt lots of other players like VVS Laxman have not taken into squad but u kept silence REASON HE WAS NOT YOUR BENGALI DADA????
Grwwn up and behave like a mature man but hope is very less....
RE:STOP
by smskal yug on Apr 23, 2007 09:02 AM Permalink
The same regional bias,once again from JD and Sharad Saxena. But is Laxman in the same League as Dada in ODIs?Visions of Grandeur?
RE:STOP
by MIHIR BEURIA on Apr 23, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
please selected future after one chance orissa's one plair mr. debasish mohanty. for tril besis
RE:[object]
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 23, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
Dear annie, It could be better if u have properly responded to Mr JD before me , but it is really bad that u r laughing at me who firmly stands again regiolism...
RE:STOP
by Annie on Apr 23, 2007 05:21 PM Permalink
I am not laughing at you Sharad, I certainly don't condone regionalism/racism but how are you an different from JD if you start spamming too. A more effective technique would be to simply report him for abuse (spam).
RE:STOP
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 23, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
Mr Kalyug, First be bold enough to show your identity I dont think this is your real name??? and I never care about backbiters.....
I have nothing to do with Laxman, I live in northern region of country and feel he should be given a chance in test squad based on his performance, nothing else
How u have smelled Regionalism from my message that is your SKILLS ?????
RE:Greg Chappell to be defamed
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 23, 2007 04:59 AM Permalink
Mr JD
U have repeatedly posted the same message and irritated no of forum users, what for????
Why dont u yourself take a initiative to file a case stating u r hurt the way Saurav was treated, no doubt lots of other players like VVS Laxman have not taken into squad but u kept silence REASON HE WAS NOT YOUR BENGALI DADA????
Grwwn up and behave like a mature man but hope is very less....
RE:Greg Chappell to be defamed
by smskal yug on Apr 23, 2007 09:06 AM Permalink
If you think deep,Sharad, you will discover,there are layers over layers. Now can someone piss off our Bengali friends?The best would be to throw up a humiliating episode, time and again..........thats JDs modus operandi......he is certainly a Bihari or Gujju from Kolkata, and he is having his fun,LOL.
Sharad,it does not look like what it is,now dont go all regional again,pls.
RE:RE:Greg Chappell to be defamed
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 23, 2007 04:24 PM Permalink
Dear I am an Indian and living in northern region of the country, I dont want to be called North Indian and I never supported or critisised any player in any of my message just bcoz of regionalism.....
If anybody has understood anything otherwise from any of my messages pls let it disclose....
It is well known that Bengalis will protest if dada will not play. to an extent that they will goto court.
But No other state has shown that kind of favorism for a cricket player. Dravid had been critisized so many times but we never heard any protest going on in south india. Same goes with other parts of India.
I request all Bengalis to stop doing this here.
Chapple is reponsible for Ganguli's exit not Dravid. And in last 15 years i have seen Ganguli comeback many times. his nature is such that he needs a shake to improve upon himself. in 1992 World cup he couldnt do anything I never felt that the neverous guy could ever come back in indian team again ... but he came back and made huge centuries in England and other parts of world.
Ganguli's exit has done good to him always. He will come back again!
But I request Ganguli to stop going into Captanship politics and sabotage indian cricket. If he is good which I am sure he is, he will be captain again.
RE:Please stop talking about regional favorism
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 22, 2007 11:18 PM Permalink
U R absolutely right Mr J V!!!
Everybody knows that Saurav was dropped due to his CONSISTANT bad performance for a long time BUT this was a BCCI mistake that they have not dropped Sachin and Sehwag on same reason??
If anybody disagree then he should prove then Saurav performance and compare with other batsmen ( not with Sachin and Sehwag, I have already told them they MUST be out)
RE:Please stop talking about regional favorism
by J V on Apr 22, 2007 11:33 PM Permalink
I have already posted my comments on Sachin.
Sachin - A great player destroyed by someone's wish to see him as captain. Never change your game to show your importance. I feel Ganguli is doing same these days .. what Tendulkar did when Azhar was captain in 1995 96.
Sehwag - A Miracle! No technique but still manages to score 200's and 300's. for Last couple of years he has started going away from miracle and learning the "Technique". Man I say if you are getting "Free" money why waste time in Working!! He should stop worrying about his technique and do what he does :) Or else he will be Past like Srikanth.
RE:Please stop talking about regional favorism
by smskal yug on Apr 23, 2007 09:10 AM Permalink
JVtakes another aim with narrow parochialness, but under the guise of being washed in milk Tulasi leaf. JV you will not fool anyone, get over it, stop targeting a section of India who have done more than your state for the freedom of the country.Jai Bharat!
RE:Please stop talking about regional favorism
by Suman Bhat on Apr 24, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
Lack of commitment, fighting spirit, negative body language, playing for self recores, to cement place for next matches, sponsers, poor fielding, trying to expose each on the field, promoting groupism etc.. Has coach told instructed for all these?? chappell's big mistake was he treated all players alike, equally and push the players from comfort zone. many superstars were taken their placed for granted.... winning and defeat depends on performance of XI players on the field irrepective of coach, captain, pitch and conditions. SL is playing superb cricket None of senior player /ex captain m envied mahila%u2019s his promotion as captain From the outset they gave unstinting support. they remained hungry to perform and did not rely on reputation or popular support to protect the ganguly and sachin should have fought battle on ground rahter in dressing room both may successful to get rid of chappell but both players may not play WC2011 tee taht t
Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI
Indian cricket needs Chappell: Tiger Pautidi he was trying to bring in Indian cricked was kind of shift to the emphasis from individual flair and brilliance to a kind of teamwork - which Australia are so good at - which is why he was actually invited to this country. http://www.cricketnext.com/news/indian-cricket-needs-chappell-pataudi/24441-14.html
Cricketers remain unbeaten in advertising field Most celebrities, who have bet anything between Rs 250- 300 crore on old warhorses Sachin Tendulkar, Dravid and Ganguly, for http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?id=462779
Chappell held up a mirror to Indian cricket'-Manjrekar http://content-gulf.cricinfo.com/talk/content/current/multimedia/288811.html was what John Wright couldn't do for four years, he showed the nation what the team was all about, what problems it had'
Player-agent nexus ruining Indian cricket: former BCCI chiefs Three former BCCI Presidents today The former Presidents, http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/007200704031320.htm It was all about attitude, feels BCCI
that contributed to our losses against Bangladesh and Sri Lanka." http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/It_was_all_about_attitude_feels_BCCI/articleshow/1839620.cms
Search the main frame for "nick". There in u find that our Gava had actually nicked the 2nd ball of the infamous 36 run innings but it was never appealed for by England.
RE:Please stop talking about regional favorism
by Charu Leininger on Apr 23, 2007 01:15 PM Permalink
Ganguly necver played in WC1992. He played 1 ODI against WI in Australia in a trie series in 1991.
RE:Please stop talking about regional favorism
by J V on Apr 25, 2007 05:21 AM Permalink
Sourav Ganguly's ODI Debut in WC1992 Against West Indies at Brisbane, Australia on 9th March, 1992. Ganguly made 3 runs off 13 balls.
RE:Regional Idli Sumni Bhoot
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 22, 2007 11:02 PM Permalink
Faceless
First have a guts to speak alongwith your real name not as u did like a coward..
U may be right as per your opinion BUT if u read your message again U R MUCH BIGGER CULPRIT , bcoz you too have limited yourself within Bengal and Bengaliliterature
This is the root cause of the problems??? is it not Mr faceless Bengali????
RE:WHO KILLED NETEJI?
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 22, 2007 11:06 PM Permalink
Is there any link between cricket and your irrelevent message?????? Just file a petition in court and get the answer
RE:WHO KILLED NETEJI?
by smskal yug on Apr 23, 2007 09:13 AM Permalink
Thats the interesting part...no doubts, a Bihari or Upite who lives as a refugee in Calcutta is posting such nonsense, it could even be you Sharad, or is it an alter ego?
RE:WHO KILLED NETEJI?
by Sharad Saxena on Apr 23, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
Dear Mr Yug I am an Indian and living in northern region of the country, I dont want to be called North Indian and I never supported or critisised any player in any of my message just bcoz of regionalism.....
If anybody has understood anything otherwise from any of my messages pls let it disclose....
