RE:BCCI - Bunch of cricket illiterates
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 02:51 PM Permalink
They don't need to know. It is enough if they know, which commercials pay.
RE:Team India Selection
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 12:59 PM Permalink
To save Indian cricket, Vengsarkar must also quit. But, he is also busy with other things.
The selectors should have the guts to say that Tendulkar & Ganguly were dropped. All these days they have got enough rest. If the idea was to rest players then it should have been after a few series has been played in the new season.
When will the BCCI take necessary action like preparing sporting pitches. When is the last time that we have performed consistently abroad on lively tracks. The self proclaimed best batting line up has always failed in big matches. Look at underrated players like Jayawardene, Styris, Hogg, Tait etc. They are not superstars but they are performing when it matters. If the Indian batting is the best in the world why does it play 7 batsmen. India should have the guts to play 5 bowlers. It is a real shame that the Indian fielders can't match even Bangladesh in the fielding department.
RE:Team Selection
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 12:02 PM Permalink
flaming was captain for 10 yrs and even last time kiwis made it to semis but failed reached fainl He did not realise that time
Sl are playing like unit and all players are
supporting and performaing for team cause not for sponsers or self records
same team was defeated by ind team 6-1 when team had no politician super player in playing XI
some superstar senior players betryed team
captian and millions of fans by playing
back stage polticis
senior players let down team and major role in early exit of WC
politicsVery easy to blame captain, What about other 10 players players%u2019s the lack of commtiment , lack of passion to win/perform, , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach spending time in crease for sponsers cause, playing for self records, many players think they are leaders and not to led by skipper, superstar attitude ..
dravid played under sachin and ganguly captaincy and gave 100 % commited performance but trusted same from senior players and backfired by sachin, ganguly, dhoni bajji zahir and yuvrag%u2026..
While India's players blame their recent poor form on e coach to a sense of insecurity to captain, the plain truth is this: When it really mattered, India's batsmen failed to deliver.
RE:Team Selection
by promodkumar on Apr 25, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
hey sumanth, how much u paid by dravid.
hey y u spoil this place always by writing dravid ramayan. you have no other job other than supporting dravid, disgusting yaar. if u want to do any favour to dravid, better go and wash his clothes and clean his house, but dont make this place dirty. hey somebody stop this dravid chamcha soon.
RE:Team Selection
by Unnikrishnan M P on Apr 25, 2007 01:44 PM Permalink
Why you are so jelous about Dravid.He is such a nice guy and if you have some solid reason then criticise; i think yours is a habit to criticise good people. This is not the matter of chamchagiri. Please avoid criticising each and everyone.
Today is going to be the biggest upset match of the World Cup. Anyone who doesn't have the habit of watching overnight matches, you have a wonderful opportunity. For the first time in this World Cup and after winning streak of 26 World Cup matches, World No:1 Aussies is going to be humbled by the underdogs - South Africa. This is not just another dumb day dream.. This is the rule today... Aussies domination of World Cricket that got started with their Semifinal tie in 1999 World cup against the Proteas is going to be ended by the SemiFinal match of 2007 against the same team. South Africans are under no pressure, they are the team least favored. They will do it!!!
RE:Watch the match today...
by mohan on Apr 25, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
Good, if SA upsets Oz, then sure the cup will be lifted by SL for the second time, thats for sure.
RE:Watch the match today...
by RAJESH SREEDHARAN on Apr 25, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
We can not say like that.... Toss has a very big impact on winning matches in this WC... Most probably, the team batting first will win the match, if they play cautiously in the first 10-15 overs...
RE:RE:Watch the match today...
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 12:22 PM Permalink
So far, in all the matches, Aus has thrashed its opponents. SA can win today, if it does not lose a single wicket in 50 overs. But, that is impossible. This hope is worse than India wanting to win WC.
RE:Watch the match today...
by RAJESH SREEDHARAN on Apr 25, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
If SA is batting first today and posting a decent total, then, they will be the finalists...
RE:Watch the match today...
by mohan on Apr 25, 2007 02:00 PM Permalink
agreed that Oz good team, but it is not unbeatable. NZ, SA & England beaten them recently don't forget that. Cricket is a crazy game and all depends on how the players perform on that day. Do you remember Bangladesh beat Oz last year.
RE:Watch the match today...
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 02:18 PM Permalink
Today, in the World Cup, how can we expect SA (ranked 4) to win against Aus (ranked 1)?
RE:Watch the match today...
by Freek Guy on Apr 25, 2007 03:08 PM Permalink
If SA doesnt lose more than 3 wickets in the first 40 overs they will beat the Aussies... If they beat the Aussies today, Sri Lanka will beat them in the final. If Aussies beat SA today, they will go on to win the World Cup this time
RE:Watch the match today...
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 03:20 PM Permalink
Smith and deVilliers will compete with each other in getting out in minimum balls.
We must think with cool head know,everybody is saying that coach and captain are responsible for the defeat.India was grooming Sehwag as the captain suddenly due to lack of form we removed him form VC and handed it over to Tendulkar.Had we given the VC to a youngster we would have not been in this situation.After WC the youngster would have been the captain. After team selection vengsarkar should not have spoken about selection and about Tendulkar leading the team after the WC.Due to this comment players stop listening to the current captain and follow what Tendulkar says. Now also after BD selection Vengsarkar said xyz will be rested or dropped.The chairman of selectors should not speak about any players once they are selected. I think Vengsarkar should resign.According to me Vengsarkar is the main culprit then comes the coach and the captain.
RE:Culprit...
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 02:08 PM Permalink
Congratulations to SL team lankans are playing brilliantly as one unit.All playes are
supporting and performaing for team cause not for sponsers or self records same SL team was defeated by ind team 6-1 when team had no politician super player in playing XI under captaincy of dravid
some superstar senior players betryed team captian and millions of fans by playing back stage polticis senior players let down team and major role in early exit of WC politics ppl blame ccaptain for team ind wC early exit ry easy to blame captain, What about other 10 players players%u2019s the lack of commtiment , lack of passion to win/perform, , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach spending time in crease for sponsers cause, playing for self records, many players think they are leaders and not to led by skipper, superstar attitude .. dravid played under sachin and ganguly captaincy and gave 100 % commited performance but trusted same from senior players and backfired by sachin, ganguly, dhoni bajji zahir and yuvrag%u2026.. matching orders of team india http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/quickiearticleshow/msid-1807342.cms The real culprits by S Rajesh http://contentgulf.cricinfo.com/india/content/current/story/288746.html
While India's players blame their recent poor form on e coach to a sense of insecurity to captain, the plain truth is this: When it really mattered, India's batsmen failed to deliver.
Captaincy myths
Names Matches Won Lost Drawn/Tied Won% SC Ganguly 146 76 65 5 52.05% R Dravid 65 33 28 4 50.77% players who supported back stage poltics, now realised that it can cost their place in team since many youngsters are knocking the door of team it will difficult get back if once out of team Ganguly had advantage of leading team for maximu nos of matches and 5 yr lengthier period and 31 wins against weaker team dravid only captian for 16 months and difference in winning average is only 1.22% Indian express poll 75% favoured dropping sachin and ganguly for odi series against BL 80% ppl approved bcci move to drop senior players TOI poll 65% voted in favouring the bcci decision to rest superstars while dravid's supports to retain him as captain increased even after ongoing dravid bashing articles.. 80% of cricket associanton (survey in ndtv) supporte dravid. ,. IBN CNN survey 86% ppl voted for dravid.. Sachin may be living legend but he is no more bigger than team or game 48% voters is voted dravid to be captain by big margin. www.cricketvotes.com Very easy to blame captain, What about other 10 players players%u2019s the lack of commtiment , lack of passion to win/perform, , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach spending time in crease for sponsers cause, playing for self records, many players think they are leaders and not to led by skipper, superstar attitude .. lankans are playing as one unit and no players are backfiring captain...
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by bharat on Apr 25, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
1. NZ winning record (of one dayers) under Flemming's captaincy is less than 50%.
2. NZ have not won or reached the finals of any major tournaments.
3. Like India, NZ have by and large, a reputation of being tigers at home only.
No doubt, Flemming was a reasonably good and steady captain, but no one else except for the forumers on rediff use superlatives to describe his captaincy.
I repeat he was a good captain but certainly not exceptional. Why are we going all out to praise his captaincy so lavishly?
If an Indian captain has a winning record of less than 50% would the Indian public support his being retained as the captain for 10 years regardless of however brilliant the captain he may be?
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Ind has never beaten NZ in a world cup match. Likewise, Pak has never beaten Ind in a world cup match.
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by bharat on Apr 25, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
You are wrong. India beat NZ in the 1987 WC at Nagpur. Gavaskar scored 103 in that match.
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
You are right and I am wrong: 14 October 1987 India V New Zealand - India won by 16 runs. (Group A)
RE:RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 03:40 PM Permalink
14 March 2003: India v New Zealand, Centurion. Idia won by 7 wickets.
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Indian on Apr 25, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
Popolation of NZ is just 4 million, even then they are doing much better than india (pop >1000 million)
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
flaming was captain for 10 yrs and even last time kiwis made it to semis but failed reached fainl He did not realise that time Sl are playing like unit and all players are supporting and performaing for team cause not for sponsers or self records some superstar senior players betryed team captian and millions of fans by playing back stage polticis senior players let down team and major role in early exit of WC
it was ganguly who destroyed the team spirit by vomoting dressing room conflict during Zib tour. whole country knew that dravid mediated between chappell and ganguly dravid anchored success of ganguly as captain take out dravid's performance ganguly success as captain average will be lower than sachin politican ganguly betryaed dalmiay dravid sachin he is spoiling sports man spirit of younger players but GANGSTER GANGULY IS BIG LOOSER EVEN YURAJ, DHONI,ZAHIR, HARBAJAN SEWAG WON'T JOIN HIS DIRTY POLITICS. CUNNING POLITICIAN GANGULY SHOULD BE REMOVED
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 12:08 PM Permalink
Oh no, Suman Blah Blah, when will you shut up and not release half-baked ideas (gas)?
RE:Fleming retires from ODI
by kuntal banerjee on Apr 25, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
Hey Pramod & Ravi...Do u have any idea of what Suman does for living??????
Indian batsmen always fail on fast bouncy tracks coz BCCI never thought in this area and " organising a series at Singapur in rainy season " is much more important for BCCI than to make fast bouncy tracks
Practice on cemented track with wet tennis balls will give u a real experience how to deal with Pace bowling!!!!!
If not BCCI atleast our forum friends can try this trick who love to take the real test of pace bowling
----No planning how to play in carribean condition ----Team selection was based on history not no present performance ----Groupism in the team and no remeadial action by BCCI and last
NOBODY WAS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE PERFORMANCE OF TEAM
Same mistake they have done for selecting Bangladesh tour, no chance for young players and it is sure AMAR AKBAR ANTHONY (sachin saurav sehwag) will do good and will AUTOMATICALLY selected for next series where they will fail!!!!!!!
RE:Un planned planning
by Bhavik Shankar on Apr 25, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
i agree with you 100%
why dont they look to the future....i am so annoyed with team selection...whay arent thier any alrounders in odi's?why not jog sharma and praveen kumar as well?why dinesh mongia why not rohit sharma?did they forget about raina?
Sri lankan game was well Planned! I stress on WAS (to be explained later;o).
1. First challange was to beat India... They Kept Murli and Malinga out of the team that played in India and Intentionally lost the series. It Worked and they surprised India in WC.
2. They played well in all other games, lost to SA which is a better team on flat pitches. Won against all other teams simply because others were not as good.
3. Intentioanlly lost agaist AUS by keeping Vaas, Murli, and Malinga out. Not a Bad ploy!
4. Now, I am pretty sure Aus will beat SA (remember no luck in this world cup - only performance)
5. So the Final will be SL vs AUS. There is No doubt Lankan Bowling.. It is Strongest today and Similary Australian Batting is strongest.
6. So this Game will be a Test of Bolwers against Batsmen... Interesting!!!!
7. Now, what can happen...
a) According to experts... Barbados is a Batting Pitch (India could have been dangerous).
b) Moody will become Vibhishan and give Lankan Secrets to Aussies.
c) Lanka will loose and Gavaskar Will write another article on Coaches :D
RE:Lankan Poweres and Vibhishan
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
team india defeated same SL team 6-1 some times ago team ind WC debacle b'cuz some senior players betrayed captain, team and millions of fans by playing back stage politicsVery easy to blame captain, What about other 10 players players%u2019s the lack of commtiment , lack of passion to win/perform, , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach spending time in crease for sponsers cause, playing for self records, many players think they are leaders and not to led by skipper, superstar attitude .. lankans are playing as one unit and no players are backfiring captain... Matching orders for team india http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/quickiearticleshow/msid-1807338.cms
Inzamam quit as his team failed to reach the 2nd round. Lara Quit as his team reached the second round, but fared badly. Flemming quit today as his team reached the semi Finals but not the Finals.
Rahul Dravid stays put, no acknowledgement of a pitiful record,real crass captaincy, no shame, just to harness the endorsement money and double match fees as captain., after first round exits in the Champions trophy and World Cup.
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by jayasimha on Apr 25, 2007 10:43 AM Permalink
all three stepped down because individual performances were pathetic---as far as endorsements go i think ganguly is the biggest culprit, playing for himself rather than team. When india won 18 one dayers at a trot who was the captain? Who was missing from the team? use your grey cells instaed of such parochial banter.
RE:[object]
by rick anthony on Apr 25, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
no one thinking about this truth....they should investigate the difference between team was in 2005 and 2007...
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by Manoj Pawar on Apr 26, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
India winnig 18 matches in the trot in home conditions & we are not played that matches against strong sides like australia.
RE:[object]
by rick anthony on Apr 25, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
why suddenly change? this is fact.... board should analysis on this, if they have honesty..
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by Ravi chandran on Apr 25, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
Our man quit cricket and moved into Ads long long ago.
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by rick anthony on Apr 25, 2007 06:31 AM Permalink
reality is different... ...if BCCI drop one player, other will not play...
What dravid can do? if dravid quit,today tomorrow new captain quit.. result would not come out ..it would continue
1 billlion people need to find what the reAson. is...
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by Kart on Apr 25, 2007 09:12 AM Permalink
If Dravid quits, who will be the next captain.Leave Tendulkar and Ganguly aside.We want a captain who can lead the team for 5 or 6 years.Yuvraj singh can be the candidate but he is not a surety in Test matches,same is the case with Sehwag,Dhoni's poor performance in WC he cannot be made the WC. Who can be the next youngster who can become the captain of team india?Any answers. Sachin and Sourav can lead the team only for a short time.But we need a captain for a long run.
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by mohan on Apr 25, 2007 09:25 AM Permalink
so you think dravid captaincy is for long run???
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by Kart on Apr 25, 2007 09:44 AM Permalink
No I want to know who after Dravid?Please do not consider Sachin and Sourav as they are in the same boat.Other than these three, who can can lead India.
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by rick anthony on Apr 25, 2007 10:46 AM Permalink
Dravid could not get team support that chappel and jagdalle gave truth report to board.. we dont understand why indian do this... everybody get chance as captaicy..if you perform well, your name will be in next... you see first sachin, then ganguly, then dravid.. check records... howmany times dravid failed in their captancy..????????????
RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 11:59 AM Permalink
flaming was captain for 10 yrs and even last time kiwis made it to semis but failed reached fainl He did not realise that time Sl are playing like unit and all players are supporting and performaing for team cause not for sponsers or self records same team was defeated by ind team 6-1 when team had no politician super player in playing XI some superstar senior players betryed team captian and millions of fans by playing back stage polticis senior players let down team and major role in early exit of WC politicsVery easy to blame captain, What about other 10 players players%u2019s the lack of commtiment , lack of passion to win/perform, , poor body languge or groupism or petty politics played against captain and coach spending time in crease for sponsers cause, playing for self records, many players think they are leaders and not to led by skipper, superstar attitude .. dravid played under sachin and ganguly captaincy and gave 100 % commited performance but trusted same from senior players and backfired by sachin, ganguly, dhoni bajji zahir and yuvraj%u2026..
RE:RE:Lara Quit,Inzamam Quit,Today Flemming quit, but Dravid will not quit!
by Suman Bhat on Apr 25, 2007 02:12 PM Permalink
NZ winning record (of one dayers) under Flemming's captaincy is less than 50%.
he was captain for 10 yrs and in previous yrs also kiwis could not make it ot fianl but he did not resing dravid is not leading from not ever 2 yrs and has winning average of 51.77 and team ind beat the Same SL team 6-1 under dravid captaincy without super politician ganguly was not part of team.
