if today it is a tie...then bangladesh...will book its place in semis..then its india or srilanka for the super8...last day we nearly escaped the rains....and it did come out of it.... omens are lokking gr8 for india as it is emerging out of the blue.....i think its india and bangladesh for super 8
RE:RE:if today is a tie
by Tarun Chaturvedi on Mar 21, 2007 02:33 PM Permalink
Exactly.. we need those changes: Out - Uthappa, In - Karthik (Uthappa can be given chances if we go to super 8) Out - Agarkar, In - Pathan Out - Kumble, In- Sreesanth Kumble -(SL dho dalenge isey -he is good for nothing. Barmuda ke bachchon ko out nhi kar paya) his 10 overs can be sahred between Saurav, Yuvi, Sehwag, Tends ..
If Munaf (keep uthappa) can be out then we have three bowler - Zaheer, SS, Pathan, and rest 20 overs between those four(May be thats crazy thing - but our bowlers are not doing anything anf whatever they are doing -- those four guys do the same)
We would be needing good score to make a good average. Lets try this... Thats a risk and not much much practical .. lets see.
RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by vishwanathan sekaran on Mar 21, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
Halo, you are wrong. If Bangladesh wins against Bermuda,they will automatically qualify for super 8 since they have beaten India. We are in catch 22 situation and only God can do some wonders and nobody else.
RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by Biplav Chatterjee on Mar 21, 2007 02:04 PM Permalink
study the game, if SL wins agst BD, India wins agst SL, and BD beats Bermuda, then it is 2 wins all, with each of the 3 beaten each other. then it all boils sown to NRR, however, if India qualifies, its better its with SL as the match between the 22 qualifiers wud carry into the next leavel
RE:RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by vishwanathan sekaran on Mar 21, 2007 02:40 PM Permalink
The top two teams from each group will advance to the Super 8 stage and any points they may have earned against the other qualifier from their own group will be carried through. Points earned against the non qualifing teams in the same pool will not be carried over. In the Super 8s, each team will play the six remaining qualifiers from the other groups and the top four teams will go through to the semi-finals. Positions will be decided by most points. Where two or more teams are tied on points, the following methods in turn will be used to decide which team goes through:
Most wins in their group or in Super 8 whichever is applicable
RE:RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by pratap singh on Mar 21, 2007 03:27 PM Permalink
but what would they do with those points? I dont understand. Next round and thereafter all going to be knock-outs, right? please clarify.
RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by Ravishankar PS on Mar 21, 2007 03:51 PM Permalink
halo you are wrong if sl wins against bang, ind wins against sl, bang wins against ber then ind, sl and bang will get 4 points each then two top teams will qualify to super8 with high net run rate
RE:RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by vishwanathan sekaran on Mar 21, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
What are we talking about? The calculations are different in our case. India - Side that bats first is bowled out. Side batting second - Bangladesh - wins.
Team A bat first and are skittled out for xxx off 49.3 overs. Team B reach the target for the loss of xxx wickets off 40.5 overs, scoring a single to win the game and end with xxx runs.
Despite Team India's runrate for the balls they faced being because they were bowled out the entire 50 overs are added to their total overs faced tally for the tournament, and Team B are credited with having bowled 50 overs.
Team B actually scored at a slower pace, however they managed to protect their wickets. Thus, only the xxx overs are added to the seasonal tally.
Let's not be carried away by net run rate. It is misleading and the media has not understood the explanations provided
RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by pratap singh on Mar 21, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
its not as bad you make it sound. nobody has made it yet....i think we have to wait until last ball of the bdesh/bmd match on 25th to be clear about this. As of now, all three teams have got equal chance....if bdesh beats srilanka today, the picture would be a bit more clearer because in that case, india beating srilanka would be enough and no run rate would be in play.
RE:RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by vishwanathan sekaran on Mar 21, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
Gentleman - please understand - we have already been beaten by Bangladesh. If all the three team qualify with equal number of points,with the clause - winner of head to head matches - we are out under this rule.
RE:RE:RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by vishwanathan sekaran on Mar 21, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
Please remember that we were in the same situation during last world cup match also when Zimbabwe qualified and Gavaskar making a hue and cry of the calculations. Even today, we are on the same situation. In the first round of match, having beaten by Bangladesh, our position is not all that comfortable as it sounds by the different method of calculations.
RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by ankit jain on Mar 21, 2007 03:47 PM Permalink
SriLanka and India should enter super8. cause if bangladesh andindia enters tahn India is virtually out of semi-finals (assuming india defeats SL)
reason:
BD carries 2 points for defeating India. and so Indai carries 0 points. @ the same time in super 8. teams like australia, newzealand and westindies have advantage because of both bangladesh and ireland and 2 points from their rounds.
RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by pratap singh on Mar 21, 2007 03:23 PM Permalink
in fact, it is better for india if bdesh beat srilanka. In that case, india beating srilanka would be enough and run rate would not play a role.
RE:RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by Ravishankar PS on Mar 21, 2007 03:45 PM Permalink
okay india and bangladesh will be better to enter super8 if bangladesh beat srilanka but what will both india and bangladesh get points in table of super8?
bangladesh will get 2 points while india will get nil points because india already lost to bangladesh in opening match.
how will india qualify for semifinal with 0 points?
RE:India will get chance to super8 round
by on Mar 21, 2007 11:39 AM Permalink
That is absolutely wrong. Bangladesh will move to Super 8 by beating Sri Lanka. Not sure about the rest! Got that?
Rahul Should play at 3rd Position ahead of Sehawag against sri-lanka because it is very difficult for sehawag to handle Vass & Malinga early on.secondly sehawag can handle spin bowling in middle order because he is good player of spinn bowling. Shirish Sarmukadam
RE:India Vs Sri-lanka
by on Mar 21, 2007 11:09 AM Permalink
no sehwag should open wit sachin against s.lankabcoz saurav can olay spinner in the middle over very well.is the time for sachin to open n dravid play at 6
Hi....i Guess there is a mistake in Schedule Table.....tommorrow i.e. on Mar 22, 2007 there is Match of Kenya V/s Canada & not Zim V/s Canada....so plz rectify that....Cheers!
RE:RE:Mistake in Schedule Table Above
by satish otari on Mar 21, 2007 01:53 PM Permalink
if sourav and sachin or utthapa doing opening the match,and sehwag handle the middle order then defenately india will win the match with high run rate, warm regards satish otari
RE:indian team winning?
by Alex Mathews on Mar 21, 2007 09:50 AM Permalink
yea.....Only if we poison all the other teams.........wake up dude, our team would be back by the weekend.......
RE:RE:indian team winning?
by jayakrishnan kannan on Mar 21, 2007 09:57 AM Permalink
ya i think he is right. the return of our team wil be confirmed tomorrow
RE:RE:RE:indian team winning?
by pratap singh on Mar 21, 2007 03:29 PM Permalink
No. Now there is no looking back. Now they are wounded tigers and hungry than ever. I think they will now go on to finals....
Few peepool in rediff post is veri jelusy. God giv them no bren when he borned. I poor maan bad engleesh and thay convint educashon but no bren.
Thay is haaf brother of one fan equali brenles and crazy both peepool are and also sum other so hear and their.
One theeng thay kno is talk agenst gangool the maan who holds the falling fortress, hoo is the thread through which the beads pass too mayk it a garland.
Thank u gangool for hold the inings together. Fools tel manything which Gangool do not mind may Gods bless all fools.
Fools tel u selfish hoen you perish Gangul try to hit and lift the score.
The fools impossibool comments me laugh veri veri.
Forgiv me and thankis for reading me.
Indeed my papa giv me educashon not veri good but those who not understand you are a fool not to understood thet altho me EEngleesh baad and mistak speling I ekpspres try to say something.
If you don understan this EEngleesh, I am a Bangawli (from Calkuta) not Arungawli (from Mumbee)teech u this EEngleesh 15/- rs per hour one hr free teech for every 10 hr booking.
RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by Anindita Mukherjee on Mar 21, 2007 09:12 AM Permalink
Only the following I could decode till now. Try again later. thanks
Few persons in rediff post are very jealous. God gave them no brain when they were born. I am a poor man, my English is bad. They are convent educated but they have no brain. They are the half brothers of one equally brainless fan and all are crazy. Some other guys here and there are also as crazy. Only thing they know is to talk against Ganguly the maan who holds the falling fortress, who is the thread through which the beads pass to make it a garland.
Thank you Ganguly for holding the innings together. Fools tell many things. Ganguly do not mind. May god bless all the fools.
RE:RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by bharat on Mar 21, 2007 02:43 PM Permalink
The Bengalis do not praise any one other than Ganguly. The praise reaped on Ganguly is often disproportionate to his performance. You Bengalis must learn to talk good about other players too along with Ganguly. Please give up the myth that Ganguly is the lone saviour of the Indian team. Do you find Maharastrians on this forum talking only about Sachin? Do Punjabi's harp only about Harbhajan? Do Delhi-ites talk good only about Sehwag? Do Keralites good talk only Sreesanth? Why do Bengalis only find Ganguly praisworthy? As long as you continue to continue sole worship of Ganguly, you will continue to receive sharp reactions.
RE:RE:RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by Indra Sengupta on Mar 21, 2007 11:25 PM Permalink
The Bengalis do not praise any one other than Ganguly. - Not agreed. Fans are full of praise for the entire team when it clicks. The praise reaped on Ganguly is often disproportionate to his performance. - Not agreed. Ganguly change the complexion of the team and the game the moment he was reinducted. He performed consistently after that. You Bengalis must learn to talk good about other players too along with Ganguly. - Yes of course when they play well. Please give up the myth that Ganguly is the lone saviour of the Indian team. - Facts prove the myth. You can not change that. Do you find Maharastrians on this forum talking only about Sachin? - Definitely some guys do so. Do Punjabi's harp only about Harbhajan? - Punjab is normally donot harp much about anybody. there is no harm if they encourage Harbhajan when he plays well. Do Delhi-ites talk good only about Sehwag? Untill the last performance Sehwag did not allow anybody except Rahul to talk good of him. Do Keralites good talk only Sreesanth? -Allow Sreesanth some more time to settle and drop him unceremoniously and then see what happens. Why do Bengalis only find Ganguly praisworthy? - Wrong!!! The whole of India barring a few like you praise Ganguly as the determination and grit personified as well as the livewire leader of resurgence of Indian cricket after Kapil Dev. As long as you continue to continue sole worship of Ganguly, you will continue to receive sharp reactions. - We wont mind. No Ganguly fans will mind whether he is a Bengali or not.
Thanks for your nice comments on Bengalis as long as you are posting in a decent way as you have done here, but any abuse and see what happens. Ganguly fans all over from all provinces and languages know what they are doing and they donot care for your uncalled for and unnecessary comments. Whtever you do you can not drop Ganguly till he plays well. So go on biting your hands till that time in frustration. If however your comments are read by any Ganguly fan who is not a Bengali, I expect sharpcomments from him against your attempts to regionalise Ganguly or Ganguly fans.
RE:RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by Indian on Mar 21, 2007 09:47 AM Permalink
Bull's eye Anindita !! Some people are always jealous and they will be because that's what they are. I am not a big fan of Ganguly but I think this guy has really contributed a hell lot to Indian cricket. Sachin is genious but still people are trying to find out out his faults !!! These people are nothing but patented loosers, my deepest condolances are with them !!:)
RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by Piu Soin on Mar 21, 2007 08:15 AM Permalink
Ok! You managed to achieve what you wanted, many people read your mail [till halfway] just to see if your really are as bad in spellings...but what a waste of time..yours and ours..simply would be good if it was straight forward good material to read!
RE:RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by sameer naik on Mar 21, 2007 08:23 AM Permalink
Rediff is not bothered about quality of messages what one writes etc they just want to ensure sites gets lot of hits. If rediff does nothign about this, it will never be able to make it in the big league.
RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by expat indian on Mar 21, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
as u do not understand english, message for u in hindi " tujhse bada g*ndu pure rediff mein nahin hai".. translated means... u are the biggest a**hole ever... gadha sala... 4 din se sab ki jaan kha raha hai....
RE:RE:Tiriboot to Great Gangool and few peepool anti Gangool have develop langool(tail)
by Neil Anderson on Mar 21, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
deer ekspati indeen tho u sai bad wordings steel thankis u read mi mesej 4 dais u so suit mi deer god blesing u may giv sum biren if not tak lone from my biren or from other dada fans u Shorting Bren
1. take first batting, if you win toss... 2. use bowler sehwag, tendulakr, yuvraj and gangulay.. 3. kumble, munaf, zaheer, sresanth must.. 4. dhoni has to hit at least 50 on number 6 5. make 200 in 35 overs and tried to reach 325 ..-350 6. sehwag should not open.. with ganguly.. 7. DHONI need to improve keeping..
RE:good tips to win against lanka
by nikhil khetan on Mar 21, 2007 11:35 AM Permalink
in point 2. u mentioned about batsmans, what bowlers will do then... u m o r o n
Guys veri veri shoking I am no edukishon when sea the inormishon that eech time peepool play crikit the Pope die. This time also Woolmer die-when so mani peepool die crikit not good play sum other game not why? And India win I houp and pray thow. Forgiv pepool bad my eenglish and convint edookashon you.
RE:Play crikit peepool die
by Bala Natarajan on Mar 21, 2007 06:36 AM Permalink
Hello Mr. noeducationbadenglish, I know, you are purposely writing wrong English and doing spelling mistakes. There is a difference in genuine mistake and the ones done on purpose. Unfortunately, one can understand the wrong English with good thoughts but its difficult to understand the paragraph with wrong English and no direction of the thoughts. If you really want to object something or comment on something then try your level best to explain it properly. Anyways, I dont have any comments on your thoughts.
RE:RE:Play crikit peepool die
by Indra Sengupta on Mar 21, 2007 07:03 AM Permalink
You Good Dancing Siva and u sai u don misunderstanding me and hoat I say in earlier cup 83 befour that Pope Vatican dies and Prinse Charlie mary and this year also befour game Pope Vatican die and Charlie prinse mary. Thees similarity say many peepool with 83 and 2007 and then 83 India win and now 2007 also India win. this is seemeelaritee peepool say and i say Woolmer also die this year. When Pope die Woolmer die and fans clash hoai play crikit and no other game and it is my point to you and others dancing Siva Bala plees beliv me I don knoow nothing good EEngleesh veri veri poor can u teech me if I am wrong U convint and me not studeeing much altho that is not the mein subjikit of diskushon. Thankiest you lion hearted good man I like South Indeea Madras I been mani time and I like dosa idili veri veri. Thank u good maan.
