WHAT R WE GOING TO DO NEXT, GIFT ARUNACHAL PRADESH IN A PLATTER TO CHINA, CMON GUYS DONT U COMPREHEND THE WORSENING SITUATION HERE, ITS NOT ABT THE OLYMPICS, IT NOT ABOUT THE GOD-DAMNED TORCH, ITS ABOUT HUMANITY, ITS ABOUT OUR NATIONAL PRIDE, CANT U SEE THAT AT EVERY POINT, CHINA IS EMABARASSING US WHETHER CALLING OUR AMABSSADOR LATE AFTER MIDNIGHT OR PROTESTING OUR PRIME MINSTERS VISIT TO OUR COUNTRY'S STATE, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM RIGHT TO DO SO, CANT U SEE THRU THIS VILE OF CHINESE, TILL WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RIGHT & WRONG OF THIS MATTER, IT IS PLANE & SIMPLE, THEY DONT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SPEAK HOW WE SHUD BEHAVE, WHAT DECISIONS WE SHUD TAKE, WE ARE FREE NATION, HAVE WE BECOME SO WEAK THAT WE ARE DEFENDING AN EXPANSIONIST TRIBAL NATION WHO HAS ANNEXED OUR 75000 SQ KMS WITH EYES ON POSSIBLE 6-7 MINERAL RICH STATES, I DONT KNOW WHAT KIND OF INTELLIGENCE THESE PEOPLE R HAVING WHO R TRYING TO SOUND RATIONAL BUT END UP SIDING UP WITH THESE COMMUNISTS. THE POINT IS EVERYBODY LOVES SPORT - ESPECIALLY OLYMPICS, BUT THE THINGS DONE BY CHINA R TOTALLY UNSPORTING, INHUMANE & ATROCIUS, ATELEAST EUROPEANS ARE BETTER THAN US IN THEIR TOTAL CONDEMNATION OF CHINESE, THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR HAS BOYCOTTED THE OPENING CEREMONY, WE R NOT AGAINS THE CHINESE PEOPLE BUT WE ARE AGAINST THE REGIME. ATLEAST SOME ONE IN THE WORLD HAS THE BALLS TO STAND UP AGAINST OPRESSION (BY THE WAY CHANCELLOR IS A LADY) & HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING THE MERITS & DEMRITS OF THE SITUATION. GOOD JOB BAICHUNG.
RE:baichung - u r the man
by Desi dude on Apr 02, 2008 04:30 AM Permalink
We fu(k ourselrves by fu(king like rabbits where as the chinese have controlled their loin guns better. So let us not feel jealous. We ill stage olympics someday, you can enjoy from your grave, with a made in china TV.
I am sure some will say it's somewhat heavy-handed, and it does make them a bit uncomfortable.
Good.
We should be uncomfortable about this subject.
At least there's an up side to the campaign.
But what else can you expect from China but to be "shamelessly self-serving" as they are attempting to have a full house for the Olympics.
I have actually welled up with tears, I cannot handle watching them.
I do think that people in this country need to be made aware that Tibetans are not disposable, but these Olympics are, and China's oppressive behaviour is way over the top.
As far as Indian govt is concerned, this is a border dispute between 2 neighbour countries. It doesn't wish to intervene because it doesn't want other countries to intervene its border dispute with pakistan govt. It is that Simple. Tibet is to China, what Kashmir is to India in world's perspective. Also, supporting Tibet now, will anger China and will endup disadvantageous to India in an event of conflit(war) with Pakistan. China will then make sure to support Pakistan which is a nightmare to our goverment. So how many of you understand this chess game? raise your hands! :)
RE:India's Silence
by vignesh p on Apr 01, 2008 04:09 PM Permalink
No, I'm not a politician. And this is my personal stand on this issue - We should all watch/participate in olympics while solemnly expressing our concerns for Titebtans. But how do we express? Whenever we attend this olympic ceremony, we can all wear the black badge or something similar. That will express our concern stronger than sitting at home and boycotting the sport. I hope Bhutia changes his mind and actively support the game AND tibetan freedom, instead of passively boycotting the sportevent and sitting at home.
RE:India's Silence
by KAMAL KHATRI on Apr 01, 2008 04:22 PM Permalink
WHAT R WE GOING TO DO NEXT, GIFT ARUNACHAL PRADESH IN A PLATTER TO CHINA, CMON GUYS DONT U COMPREHEND THE WORSENING SITUATION HERE, ITS NOT ABT THE OLYMPICS, IT NOT ABOUT THE GOD-DAMNED TORCH, ITS ABOUT HUMANITY, ITS ABOUT OUR NATIONAL PRIDE, CANT U SEE THAT AT EVERY POINT, CHINA IS EMABARASSING US WHETHER CALLING OUR AMABSSADOR LATE AFTER MIDNIGHT OR PROTESTING OUR PRIME MINSTERS VISIT TO OUR COUNTRY'S STATE, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM RIGHT TO DO SO, CANT U SEE THRU THIS VILE OF CHINESE, TILL WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RIGHT & WRONG OF THIS MATTER, IT IS PLANE & SIMPLE, THEY DONT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SPEAK HOW WE SHUD BEHAVE, WHAT DECISIONS WE SHUD TAKE, WE ARE FREE NATION, HAVE WE BECOME SO WEAK THAT WE ARE DEFENDING AN EXPANSIONIST TRIBAL NATION WHO HAS ANNEXED OUR 75000 SQ KMS WITH EYES ON POSSIBLE 6-7 MINERAL RICH STATES, I DONT KNOW WHAT KIND OF INTELLIGENCE THESE PEOPLE R HAVING WHO R TRYING TO SOUND RATIONAL BUT END UP SIDING UP WITH THESE COMMUNISTS. THE POINT IS EVERYBODY LOVES SPORT - ESPECIALLY OLYMPICS, BUT THE THINGS DONE BY CHINA R TOTALLY UNSPORTING, INHUMANE & ATROCIUS, ATELEAST EUROPEANS ARE BETTER THAN US IN THEIR TOTAL CONDEMNATION OF CHINESE, THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR HAS BOYCOTTED THE OPENING CEREMONY, WE R NOT AGAINS THE CHINESE PEOPLE BUT WE ARE AGAINST THE REGIME. ATLEAST SOME ONE IN THE WORLD HAS THE BALLS TO STAND UP AGAINST OPRESSION (BY THE WAY CHANCELLOR IS A LADY) & HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING THE MERITS & DEMRITS OF THE SITUATION. GOOD JOB BAICHUNG.
RE:India's Silence
by sumit verma on Apr 01, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
exactly... that makes sense. Mr Guatam you dont need to take a stand only for disrupting olympics.. will u sustain your stand and fight once the olympics is over and everyone will fall silent once again?
RE:India's Silence
by sumit verma on Apr 01, 2008 04:35 PM Permalink
Human Rights bodies can slam IOC. I do not wish to mix sports with politics any day. Will you continue in the same spirit after the Olympics? You will see all falling silent after the event eventually. Anyways, China isnt a greater human rights violator than United States and the British in its colonial days.
RE:RE:India's Silence
by gautam on Apr 01, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
right, china isnt the greatest human rights violator. the americans and the british are. give me an opportunity to protest.
olympics happened to be the greatest opportunity to protest against chinese brutalities.And so every one is using this opportunity.
To be very honest I%u2019m not against Olympics nor is every one here who are boycotting Olympics.
And one more thing, I don%u2019t think you read the article I requested you to read. Even if you have read it, I don%u2019t think you have understood it.
In the article I don%u2019t want you to read what the rights bodies says, I want you to understand the meaning of Olympics.
RE:India's Silence
by sumit verma on Apr 01, 2008 11:34 PM Permalink
wow! this guy is surely committed to teh cause of human rights.. Lets see what he does after olympics
If he is concerned about human rights, i would like to know if he will stand up and say 'no' when Olympics happens in London next time. The British did so much of rights violations in India and its other colonies as well..
RE:Will he do the same next time in London?
by sumit verma on Apr 01, 2008 03:39 PM Permalink
the point i am trying to make is: Lets not mix politics with sports. I am against human rights violations as well, where ever it is committed or whoever is the culprit. Olympics is simply not the Forum to rake up these issues. Why do we have UN then? should we shift UN sittings to Olympics venues then? The problem with some of us Indians is that we have double standards in mind and dont see the bigger picture. What would you say if in 2010 China says it wont send its athletes to the Commonwealth games in Delhi as India is violating human rights in North East or in Kashmir and it supports the separatists there. The same logic applies. The Indian Government knows this and keep mouth shut knowing this. Still the public is always after China and Pakistan for reasons unknown to them!
U ALL R CORRECT, ATLEAST SOMEONE HAS THE COURAGE, FOR ME,BAICHUNG IS THE MAN, HE HAS SHOWN COURAGE WHEN HIS TIME CAME, NOW ITS UPON US, I URGE EVERYBODY TO STAND UP AND MAKE THIS TORCH BEARING THE MOST FLOP SHOW ON THE EARTH, NOBODY WILL APLAUSE THE SHOW, NOBODY SHUD RUN WITH IT, I URGE OTHER SPORTS PERSONS TOO TO DISPLAY THE SAME GUTS AND TURN DOWN THE TORCH RELAY, AND WE SHUD ALL OPPOSE THE TORCH RELAY FROM WHEREVER IT PASSES. I ASSURE U THAT IF IT COMES TO GUJARAT I WONT ALLOW IT PASS EASILY, THAT IS MY PROMISE AND NOW THE SAME GOES FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TOO. THE TIME HAS COME TO OPPOSE THESE CHINESE. AND TO THE JONAS DSOUZAS OF THIS WORLD. CHINESE OPPOSING OUR PRIME MINISTER'S VISIT TO OUR STATE ARUNACHAL PRADESH, THEY CALLING OUR FOREIGN AMBASSADOR AFTER MIDNIGHT, IF U DONT FEEL DISCUSTED BY THIS THEN UR EXISTENCE IS A WASTE. I DONT KNOW HOW DEEP R WE GOING TO GO, OR IF THERE IS ANY SELF ESTEEM LEFT IN PEOPLE LIKE THESE, BUT ONT THING IS FOR SURE, DUE TO PEOPLE LIKE THESE WE WERE RELED BY BRITISH AND IF THE SAME PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR SAY THEN BE READ FOR CHINESE ANNEXATION DAY BY DAY, YEAR BY YEAR, WE HAVE ALREADY LOST 75,000 SQ KMS TO THEM IN THE LAST 50 YEARS BY OUR OWN NAIVETY OR OUR NEIGHBOUR PAKISTAN'S GIFT TO THEM, BUT STILL U WANT O GO TO BEIJING AND PLAY FEW GAMES THEN GOD HELP INDIA BUT I M NOT GOING TO ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO MY COUNTRY, SO ITS DECIDED BOYCOTT TORCH RELAY, BOYCOTT OLYMPICS, BOYCOTT ALL CHINESE GOODS & BOYCOTT ALL CHINESE GOOD WISHERS
RE:HAIL BAICHUNG BHUTIA, NOW ITS OUR TURN.
by gac on Apr 01, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
kamal, its not the chinese who wanted the torch to go thru india. after the tibetan rioters entered the chinese embassy in delhi, the chinese refused to sent the torch to india sensing trouble from the rioters. if it would have happened india will be showcased as a poor security provider, to avoid the embarrassment indian govt made repeated request to make the torch pass thru india. china has accepted this by having an security undertaking form our country. if the torch is getting disrupted it is the loss of nations pride, which is what the tibetans are trying to do bcoz they dont have anything to lose from it but we have our national pride at stake and these tibetans dont mind spoiling our national pride even after they have better life in our country then most of our citizens even thou they are refugees.
RE:HAIL BAICHUNG BHUTIA, NOW ITS OUR TURN.
by KAMAL KHATRI on Apr 01, 2008 04:24 PM Permalink
dear gac, WHAT R WE GOING TO DO NEXT, GIFT ARUNACHAL PRADESH IN A PLATTER TO CHINA, CMON GUYS DONT U COMPREHEND THE WORSENING SITUATION HERE, ITS NOT ABT THE OLYMPICS, IT NOT ABOUT THE GOD-DAMNED TORCH, ITS ABOUT HUMANITY, ITS ABOUT OUR NATIONAL PRIDE, CANT U SEE THAT AT EVERY POINT, CHINA IS EMABARASSING US WHETHER CALLING OUR AMABSSADOR LATE AFTER MIDNIGHT OR PROTESTING OUR PRIME MINSTERS VISIT TO OUR COUNTRY'S STATE, WHO HAS GIVEN THEM RIGHT TO DO SO, CANT U SEE THRU THIS VILE OF CHINESE, TILL WHAT POINT ARE WE GOING TO DISCUSS THE RIGHT & WRONG OF THIS MATTER, IT IS PLANE & SIMPLE, THEY DONT HAVE ANY RIGHT TO SPEAK HOW WE SHUD BEHAVE, WHAT DECISIONS WE SHUD TAKE, WE ARE FREE NATION, HAVE WE BECOME SO WEAK THAT WE ARE DEFENDING AN EXPANSIONIST TRIBAL NATION WHO HAS ANNEXED OUR 75000 SQ KMS WITH EYES ON POSSIBLE 6-7 MINERAL RICH STATES, I DONT KNOW WHAT KIND OF INTELLIGENCE THESE PEOPLE R HAVING WHO R TRYING TO SOUND RATIONAL BUT END UP SIDING UP WITH THESE COMMUNISTS. THE POINT IS EVERYBODY LOVES SPORT - ESPECIALLY OLYMPICS, BUT THE THINGS DONE BY CHINA R TOTALLY UNSPORTING, INHUMANE & ATROCIUS, ATELEAST EUROPEANS ARE BETTER THAN US IN THEIR TOTAL CONDEMNATION OF CHINESE, THE GERMAN CHANCELLOR HAS BOYCOTTED THE OPENING CEREMONY, WE R NOT AGAINS THE CHINESE PEOPLE BUT WE ARE AGAINST THE REGIME. ATLEAST SOME ONE IN THE WORLD HAS THE BALLS TO STAND UP AGAINST OPRESSION (BY THE WAY CHANCELLOR IS A LADY) & HERE WE ARE DISCUSSING THE MERITS & DEMRITS OF THE SITUATION.
RE:RE:HAIL BAICHUNG BHUTIA, NOW ITS OUR TURN.
by Vijay Yadav on Apr 01, 2008 03:03 PM Permalink
a very,very good message Mr. Kamal..............we agree with u completely................Longlive Baichung...........Down Down China.............
Baichung shows the real guts to oppose cruelty of china against innocent tibetians..........every peace-loving indian should support his move...........apart from chinese agent jaleel and Jonas DSouza.............
RE:RE:Baichung is the icon of youth and courage
by Jonas DSouza on Apr 01, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Priya Nair,
I am no Chinese agent nor approve what China does to Tibetans. If I am asked to, I will stand whole day in support of Tibetans. What I am trying to convince you all is that Tibetans are asking for too much from us. Asking us to reject the Torch that is symbol of Olympics.
Neither do I persoanlly have any problems with Bhutia's refusal to carry the torche. All I say is that he being an international level sportsman put Tibetans' cause before his nation's presence at the Olympics.
Pity that I could not succeed in convincing you all.
RE:Baichung is the icon of youth and courage
by Priya Nair on Apr 01, 2008 02:44 PM Permalink
Dear Jonas DSouza ,u cannot understand what a big threat china is to our nation..........it was a blunder committed by Nehru to accept chinese aggression into Tibet..........if Tibet be a n independent state,then it will act as a buffer between India and china...........that will be of great interest for our motherland...........bcoz dragons are always trying to engulf it since 1962...............and our spineless leaders are bowing their heads in front of them in fear...............so at least Bhutia ,being a David,shows the courage to take on Goliath............
RE:RE:RE:Baichung is the icon of youth and courage
by gautam on Apr 01, 2008 03:13 PM Permalink
Dear Jonas DSouza,
bhutia is actually doing india proud internationally. now the whole world knows that there are people in india who is opposed to any form of human rights violation.
his act will give an opportunity but more importantly the courage to the whole world to stand against human rights violation.
I personally dont like china or chinease product espaicially when they are sending us the rejected material of EU or USA but i dont thing and can not be aggred upon that any religion is moere impotant than your motherhood mother will always come first
