RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Star on Jun 01, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
rajeev krishnan
Its highly ridiculous to believe that a religious book would approve of such an act, the world would have been doomed 1400yrs ago if all muslims believed that.
RE:RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 11:52 AM Permalink
Iran( Parsees) doomed but India survived because of Raja of Vijaynagar, Pratap, Shivaji , Guru Govind singh but still we lost 30% land to Islamists in 1947
RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
read Hadisa and biography of mohamud. See the definite pattern in behavior of Muslim wordwide. u will get the answer
RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Star on Jun 01, 2008 11:53 AM Permalink
Vinay Gupta
If we studied honestly and objectively the life of the Prophet from authentic and unbiased sources we will find that he never engaged in the battlefield nor did he approve of battles other than to repel aggression, including legitimate pre-emptive strike against pending attack, or to stop aggression or persecution.
RE:RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 12:03 PM Permalink
Star, please provide some details about the attack on madina ( it may be macca becoz i donot remember correctly)
RE:RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Ryan Rizvi on Jun 01, 2008 11:51 AM Permalink
Nothing of this sort is written it is just propaganda war to mislead others. Killing innocent is strongly condemned in Islam as God is the only Authority who will punish anyone for his sins. It is also matter of misintepretation. Even it is clearly mentioned those who are born and raise like you , you should not hate them.
RE:RE:RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 11:58 AM Permalink
why killing of innocent only is condemned? who will decide who is innocent ? How can religion allow some one to decide like this.
RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Ryan Rizvi on Jun 01, 2008 12:04 PM Permalink
Vinay Gupta your mind is not working at this time so come back when you are in fresh mood then we will explain u everything in peaceful way.
RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
So u have no argument and u cannot except what u have written . U people are very intolerant
RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Ryan Rizvi on Jun 01, 2008 11:43 AM Permalink
Your good work will gurantee peace and prosparity for you and all who devote thier lives for good.
RE:For those who are misleading others about Islam.
by Khalid Moosa on Jun 01, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
pls restrain brother from such idle talk based on comments from illiterate critics
Seems like people here can just talk. What a PJ? These are the same people who play songs of god and act like a dodo without brains, when its time to do things right. Religion is a twin edge knife. Use a twin knife sword - kill others with one edge and let the other edge kill you. Rediff, keep your thoughts to yourself, you are wasting time, putting oil to fire.
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by matam on Jun 01, 2008 11:23 AM Permalink
Seems like people here can just talk. What a PJ? These are the same people who play songs of god and act like a dodo without brains, when its time to do things right. Religion and terrorism are twin edge knifes. Use a twin knife sword - kill others with one edge and let the other edge kill you. Rediff, keep your thoughts to yourself, you are wasting time, putting oil to fire.
friendz this is for all i want to say a few things 1. right across the eight hours i was logged in people have just abused me whenever i said Islam talks about peace and mankind .such intolerance is detrimental to construtive discussion 2 I gave solution to all but every one discussed everything under the sun except the topic 3. people without even a trace ounce of knowledge about Islam are writing sermon on jihad kaafir pls friends thes are technical terms if i ask one of u write the chemical formula of amorphous hydrogen peroxide how many can do it of course only the ones who have knowledge correct then how can u guys go on talking about jihad kaafir they are technical terms a lay man cannot understand them without expert guidance you cannot understand these things by just watching a muslim play cricket in gullie pls understand this 4. last but not the least everyone made me hang my head in shame because of your intolerant remarks at me i am a freedom fighter son despite tht people called me names my hindu friend next to me actually cried i was ashamed pls take care all but i wish peace and prosperity to all in this life and here after because this is what i learned from the HOLY QURAN I READ
RE:last board
by shiva kumara on Jun 01, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
Dear friend, I wonder what made the Islamic body to come up with this kind of a statement so late? Thousands of innocents are killed in so called Jihad. So much of time and money has been spent to protect the nations from these fanatics who are brainwashed by some lunatics. And now that an islamic body comes up and says it is bad! But yeah, better late than never.
RE:last board
by DP on Jun 01, 2008 11:46 AM Permalink
"Do not mischief on the earth after it has been set in order." - means when GOD has set everything already for you...dont spoil it by eventing your own rules. Its just like a mother saying to a child "Beta, maine tumhare kapde iron kardiye hain! dont u dare spoil them."
Im a Hindu! so calm down!
My message is to unite all as its "Gods wish" to create a "Sarva Dharma Priya" Nation! Which was called "Bharat"!
Isnt it what Krishna taught Arjuna, Vishnu taught Garuda and our sun(Surya) Vivaswat?
RE:last board
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 12:01 PM Permalink
Dare! why u people use this type of language always. This shows that mind is filled with violence
I am waiting for Hindus to condemn terrorism against Muslims in gujurat and elsewhere. When is that going to happen, would somebody mind telling me please?
RE:This should not be an exucuse for Hindu fanatics to start screaming!
by ADOLF HITLER on Jun 01, 2008 01:26 PM Permalink
first apologise for all the barbaric crimes your people have unleashed on us Hindus.
apoligise for destroying the temple in ayodhya by coward babar who build babri mosque, apologise for burning 54 innocent Hindu brothers in Godhra.
also promise that u people will never support and hide the terrorists just bcoz they are muslims....
uske baad, uske baad mere bhai tum jis baat ke liye kahoge hum maafi ke liye sochenge.
RE:This should not be an exucuse for Hindu fanatics to start screaming!
by RRAMESH on Jun 01, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
Who started gujarat violence?Who burnt to death one railway bogey full of Hindus in the first instance?.Because hindus retaliated by killing more muslims ,thereis so much noise .Muslims should give the attitude to make India a muslim majority state.This attitude is the root cause of all violence.
RE:This should not be an exucuse for Hindu fanatics to start screaming!
by Vinay Gupta on Jun 01, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
u will always find some excuse for violence. Sometime u will say that violence for justice is allowed. But when u people grow to be in majority then minorities are not even allowed peaceful protests.
RE:This should not be an exucuse for Hindu fanatics to start screaming!
by gali on Jun 01, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
I condemn terrorism against muslims in gujrat.It was very wrong to do so.Now,would you condemn killing kar sevaks by lighting a train bhogie and locking all doors so that people inside could not even escape.Was that not a gruesome crime????before even crying that people killed muslims in godhra,wouldnt you look into yourself and understand why the rioting started in the first place???you are talking of people to be just to muslims but what about muslims being just to hindus and stop doing anything wrong to hindus????? Every action has an equal and opposite reaction Its newtons law and is known world wide,dont you muslims know it???????
He should be rewarded as most devoted foreign agent who spend day and night in inciting hate in India. He is pretending to be Indian but many times he have been exposed writing anti Hindu comments and most of time anti muslim and anti SC/ST comment to create divisions among all Indian brothers.
The rarity of such clear declarations, makes this VERY WELCOME. Humanity must prevail over religion. Disruption of life through terrorism will eventually affect the families of the terrorists themselves. Cancer cells spread throughout the body, they don't stay in one part for long.
The difference between a war-like mind and a peaceful mind is that the first mind will eventually become confused and go mad whereas the second mind will remain healthy and happy.
Several groups in this world are unhappy - each with its own set of grievances. But not every group opts for suicide bombings, baazaar bombings or flying planes into buildings.
Muslims feel others are interfering in their lands. But muslims are colonising Europe, at least six millions have moved to Britain, France, Holland and Germany. Some of them are causing problems in these countries that were until recently 100% Christian. Should some Christian groups opt for suicide bombs, throw grenades at the mosques in their countries?
Saudi money is converting Hindus to Islam. Many Hindus believe that Hindu temples were destroyed in pilgrimage centres like Kashi, Mathura and Prayag, and Masjids built in their places. Hindus also have other grievances about how the Indian govt. is treating them. Should there be some Hindu suicide bombers also? Is it beyond Hindu groups to place bombs in muslim countries? Violence is ultimately easy for any human group.
If every group does it then where is society? Look at Iraq.
RE:Welcome Declaration by Darul Uloom
by Palani on Jun 01, 2008 11:27 AM Permalink
Kris iyer sir,
Thanks for welcoming the declaration.
you have written from you point of view.
I take this opportunity to humbly furnish my point of view.
Is this the first declaration you hear from muslim? No. you may be meeting many muslims in your every day life. can you point out how many of them terrorists / terrorist supporter?
"Muslims feel others are interfering in their lands." This is your statement.
Do you remember what is the basis for Iraq invasion? Weapons of Mass Destruction. Is this not a lie.? Bush and blair lied to the maximum extent.
Do you remember 9/11 what happened to the enquiries of the incident? what was the finding?
where are the black boxes of the aeroplanes hit the building?
can you replay the video and see it again?
Whatever western media say you accept and talk.
Veda also say that Do not spread any news without verifying its truthfulness.
There are criminals in the world irrespective of religion.
But if a muslim did any wrong all jump on islam and others just by name.
O ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.
And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah. “They are dead.” Nay, they are living, though ye perceive (it) not.
Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,
RE:Welcome Declaration by Darul Uloom
by Palani on Jun 01, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
O ye who believe! seek help with patient perseverance and prayer; for Allah is with those who patiently persevere.
154. And say not of those who are slain in the way of Allah. “They are dead.” Nay, they are living, though ye perceive (it) not.
155. Be sure we shall test you with something of fear and hunger, some loss in goods or lives or the fruits (of your toil), but give glad tidings to those who patiently persevere,
156. Who say, when afflicted with calamity: “To Allah We belong, and to Him is our return”:-
157. They are those on whom (Descend) blessings from Allah, and Mercy, and they are the ones that receive guidance
you wrote muslims are colonising europe.
Are they doing anything against the law of the land?
You read the history written by western historians. That too who were linving centuries after the muslim rule. you dont know that they only destroyed your original identy.
Anyway kris iyer sir, Ther is a proverb in tamil
"Dharmathin vazhvadanai soothu kavvum
meendum dharmam vellum"
meaning-- unjust activities try to swallow truth. but truth will win at last.
According to the Quran, the purpose of the creation of different races and nations is not conflict and war but cultural richness.
“O Mankind! We created you from a male and female, and made you into peoples and tribes so that you may know one another. The noblest among you in God's sight is the most upright one. God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.” (Quran, 49:13)
So also, according to the Quran, all creatures on earth are sentient beings.
"There is not an animal on earth, nor a bird that flies on its wings -but they are communities like you (Quran 6:38)
Islam considers it as a grave offense to kill innocent people and to spread terror on the land. Such acts are considered one of the most obvious examples of mischief.
“If someone kills another person – unless it is in retaliation for someone else or for causing corruption in the earth – it is as if he had murdered all mankind. And if anyone gives life to another person, it is as if he had given life to all mankind” (Quran, 5:32)
Allah denounces those who make mischief on earth, who subject people to cruelty and those who kill people for no reason.
"Then, is it to be expected of you, if you were put in authority, that you will do mischief in the land, and sever your ties of kinship? Such are the people God has cursed, making them deaf and blinding their eyes"(Quran, 47:22-23)
"Seek the abode of the hereafter with what God has given you, without forgetting your portion of the world. And do good as God has be
RE:Islam means peace!
by Abdul Samad on Jun 01, 2008 11:08 AM Permalink
No matter how immoral or hostile others behaving, a Muslim is supposed to only act justly.
"O You who believe! Show integrity for the sake of God, bearing witness with justice. Do not let hatred for a people incite you into not being just. Be just. That is closer to faith. Heed God [alone]. God is aware of what you do."(Quran, 5:8)
The existence of hypocritical people who emerge in the name of God and religion, but actually organise themselves to commit wickedness condemned by Allah, is indicated in the Quran. One verse talks about a gang of nine men who planned to murder the Prophet by swearing in the name of God:
“There was a gang of nine men in the city causing corruption in the land and not putting things right. They said, “Let us make an oath to one another by God that we will fall on him and his family in the night and then say to his protector, We did not witness the destruction of his family and we are telling the truth.” They hatched a plot and We hatched a plot while they were not aware."(Quran, 27:48-50)
As this incident described in the Quran reveals, the fact that people do things "in the name of God" or even swear in His name, in other words that they use the kind of language designed to show themselves as very religious, does not mean that what they do is in conformity with religion. On the contrary, what they do can be quite against the will of God and the morality of religion.
This being the case, it is obvious what great sins are the murde
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RE:sulle..walk the talk. shouting from rooftop is not going to change the reality of moslem terrorism
by sanjiv goyal on Jun 01, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
I agree you are really badchalan ,but remove Amitabh from your name,It can't be your name.Islam also does not allow conversions and use of fake names of other reliogions.
