"Do not mischief on the earth after it has been set in order"
After it has been set in order.
1)Does that mean you can continue your mischief till it is set in order?
2)How do you set things in order?
3) Is it by mass murder,rape, etc., as can be seen throughout the history of marauders from the middle east down the ages?
4) In the middle eastern countries apparently things have been set in order. And things have to be set in order in the West and in the larger part of the Indian sub continent barring Pakistan and Bangladesh.
So the followers of Quran can continue their hyper activity as per the dictates of Quran – on the earth till it has been set inorder.
RE:Good news is: There are somebody who are ready to take on jehadis, Islamists head on
by Loan Shark on Jun 01, 2008 12:52 AM Permalink
LOL ... BJP is also a jehadi party ... let secular forces unite to keep communal forces out ... be it islamic or hindu fanatics
RE:Good news is: There are somebody who are ready to take on jehadis, Islamists head on
by Mahendra Patel on Jun 01, 2008 01:17 AM Permalink
Dear,
"SECULAR" for Congress is "MUSLIM VOTE",For others Like COMMIE They are NON-BELIVERS, they are using "SECULAR" for all the SUCCERS who has no CLUE to whom They are VOTING- Their Ideology does not make any sense in INDIA, Besides their HEART and MIND are re-motley controlled by our NEIGHBOUR in NORTH.
So who is Left who LOVE THIS NATION- THEY CALL THEM "COMMUNAL", ITS ON RISE because 85% are for it, no matter how they try to band to gether.
RE:Good news is: There are somebody who are ready to take on jehadis, Islamists head on
by Loan Shark on Jun 01, 2008 01:22 AM Permalink
secular does not mean muslim votes ... secular means to rise above the demarcation set by religion and think of everyone as humans and not as people of a certain religion
Just because a certain crime is done by a muslim, does not mean that all muslims will be punished ... and the govt. will remain in inaction, while people take to streets and administer justice in their own way so the party in power remains the favorite for the next few terms
I cannot imagine that so many millions of muslims in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh are still muslims. They are just acting as pawns in the hands of Arabs. If I knew that by ancestors were brutally tortured, taxed to convert to Islam, I dont wait a single second leaving the evil cult.
Islamic terrorism is not new phenomenon to show Gujarat and Iraq as reasons. It has been a 1400 year phenomenon. How much common sense one needs to understand the evil nature and hidden agenda of Islam?
I am not writing this to spread my religion by debunking Islam. I am just amazed by the foolishness of people in 21st century.
RE:So shaeful
by Chris on Jun 01, 2008 12:31 AM Permalink
Muslims are themselves victims of the evil known as the "Religion of Peace". Indian Muslims are somewhat more fortunate than their wretched Arab bretheren, because Indian Muslims can always come to their senses, recover from their amnesia, abandon the "Relgion of Peace", and return joyfully to their glorious Hindu roots.
RE:So shaeful
by Loan Shark on Jun 01, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
I think people like you bring insult to Hinduism .. why shouldn't people who were born Islam or christian, jew or hindu convert, if they do not want to?
RE:So shaeful
by Chris on Jun 01, 2008 12:57 AM Permalink
Because their Hindu ancestors were forcibly converted by the Arab and Portuguese invaders, you moron ! Som they should now return to their Hindu roots. Got it ?
RE:RE:So shaeful
by Mahendra Patel on Jun 01, 2008 01:31 AM Permalink
Well, they are welcome-If they wants to - In hinduism there is no force is used to LURE in to , Either externally or Internally, There is no need for Coerced People into This religion, beside when you coerced some one than that religion LOOSE REAL MEANING OF RE-LIGION. Going Back to Root of Your own Free Spirit and Will.
RE:So shaeful
by Mahendra Patel on Jun 01, 2008 01:26 AM Permalink
There is nothing wrong in Keeping your cast and also be HINDU, In fact that's very welcome.
My personal feeling is with all these "OBC", ST, SC- Cast Hope Loose it's Traditional Meaning.
Cast or No- cast Hinduism is INTACT, How because it's Most HUMANE, PROGRESSIVE, Scientific and above all it is Tested though Last FIVE THOUSAND YEARS, Tested against onslaught from all Theories and Religion -It absorbed them all and Digested real Good - It's Immune to all external and Internal Parasites. Will Flourish again
RE:all terrorists are not same
by Loan Shark on Jun 01, 2008 12:54 AM Permalink
we all have right to vote and terrorists are fewer in number ... presumably!
The statement by deoband is anti-islamic. Mohammed called upon his followers to kill and subjugate idolators and people following other books like Jews.
How can a true muslim following the founder be termed unislamic?
Dont waste time. Entire world knows Islam is evil. Only politicians are deliberately ignorant of Islam. Everyone else is trying their best to debunk , eliminate the evil called Islam.
RE:Dont waste time
by Chris on Jun 01, 2008 12:28 AM Permalink
Muslims are themselves victims of the evil known as the "Religion of Peace". Indian Muslims are somewhat more fortunate than their wretched Arab bretheren, becauseIndian Muslims can always come to their senses, recover from their amnesia, abandon the "Relgion of Peace", and return joyfully to their glorious Hindu roots.
As I suspected, nothing has changed in the cloistered world of the Darul Uloom. If it had the declaration should have contained at least one reference to innocent infidels being killed by Islamist suicide bombers as they prayed in temples and went home from work on Mumbai’s commuter trains.
The problem with institutions like the Darul Uloom is they give all Muslims a bad name. The vast majority of Indian Muslims do not believe in the literalist interpretation of Islam that the Saudis propagate through seminaries like the one in Deoband. They do not think of cinemas as ‘centres of sin’ or believe that the solution to the world’s problems lies in returning to the times of the Prophet. They do not believe either that the West is a ‘tyrant and colonial master’ but it is not those Muslims that our ‘secular’ government likes to promote, so the finance minister in his budget last week announced a fund to modernise madrassas. It is a criminal waste of tax-payers’ money and a disservice to the Muslim community because what ordinary, non-jihadi Muslims need badly are neighbourhood schools that are modern, secular and affordable. If they want to turn their children into maulvis they will send them to the Darul Uloom type seminary anyway. And, even a casual stroll in its compounds is all you need to notice that it is flush with funds.
Last week, when I heard the Darul Uloom had condemned terrorism, I went disbelievingly to their website to download a copy of the declaration made at the end of the conference of bearded mullahs. This is what I found. After declaring untruly that Islam treats all mankind with equality (there should be no infidels then) the declaration says, ‘Islam sternly condemns all kinds of oppression, violence and terrorism’.
So far so good, but the next paragraph and the one after clarifies that the Darul Uloom’s idea of terrorism is different to yours and mine. It’s not attacks by Islamist suicide bombers on us idol-worshippers that they are worried about but attacks on Muslims. Listen. ‘The Conference expresses its deep concern and agony on the present global and national alarming conditions (sic) in which most of the nations are adopting such an attitude against their citizens, especially Muslims, to appease the tyrant and colonial master of the West . . . the conference strongly demands the Indian Government (sic) to curb those maligning the madrassas and Muslims’.
RE:Hang the real terrorist
by Chris on Jun 01, 2008 12:18 AM Permalink
From 600 AD onwards, the founder of the "Religion of Peace" and his foolish followers have been doing nothing but terrorism. What should be the punishment for them ?
