the vedas laid down the scientific chaturvarna system.. its natural and followed in society / industry another other names.. it degenerated over time like all systems... and then the britishers and modernists s*rewed it up proper.. india will be destroyed thru all this politically correct nonsense.. see whats happening with gujjar nonsense now!next doctors will come thru quotas and destrpy medical science like quota system has done for the govt machinery...and the height is the so called OBCs are the biggest tormentors of the dalits in tamil nadu and elsewhere.. what a definition of social justice!
Sir, Any body who progress from a village set up has to face lot of resistance ,First from their family members,2nd from their community,And finally has to make War with the poor class which is called Harijan, I DON"T CALL THEM UNTOUCHABLES AS NOW THEY ARE WELL ORGANISED GROUP ION TAMIL NADU(MAFIA). They easily escape from the law after killing the high caste men,They harass/brainwash high caste women.I will cite here some example. In one village near Pattabiram,two sister's from carpenter community were returuning after their duty in the nearest town,after dark arroun 6.30 pm.Seven harijan lad had picked them and traped them.Till today no action is taken against those culprit,no media has brought the news and these girls also refuse to make complaints because their future is at stake.Simmilarly thousands of incident happens in TN,Unless you are grouoped you can not protect your women/properties from these goondas. If you work away from the village you can make money and progres but your family become vulneraeble to attack/theft/rape.Tamil nadu is the most lawless state in india.So your protection depence on your strength.Since most of this middile caste persons move away their community ability to strike back reduces,so these harijan wolf play w/o check. If you go to police station with a complaint your property will go.Where as there are free services from govt and Harijan community lawer to protect them. So the middile caste become vulnerable for all exploitation
THATS RIGHT IF EVERYONE BECOMES A BACKWARD CLASS ,THEN WGATS THE NEED FOR MUSLIM QUATO,SC ,ST QUATO ECT ..THATS WHY IN TAMIL NADU WE HAVE 90 TO 95 % BACKWARD CLASS..SEEE KNOW THE COUNTRY CANNOT BE DISINTERGRATED IN CAST LINES...
BUT A NEW BREED IS TAKING SHAPE IN TAMILNADU KNOWN AS THE SOCIAL STATUS ...I HAVE MORE MONEY TAHN YOU AND EDUCATION .....YOU HAVE EDUCATION BUT NORT MORE MONEY THAN ME ...THE NEW CASS BREED LADIEDS AND GENTAMEN IN THE NEXT 20 YEARS IN TAMILNADU.....WE TAMILIANDS HAVE TO MAKE SURE WEALTH IS DISTRIBUTED EQALLYY OR ATLEAST SUFFICIENTLY AMONG THE POOR .BECAUSE IF IT BECOME EQUALL IT DEFEATS THE IDEA OF CAPITALISM .....THAT WE ARE RIDING ON N....THE FUTURE .....2021
RE:TAMILNADUS FUTURE CAST WARS 2021
by sivasubramanian on May 30, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
Hello guest, Bhaghat Gita says give only to deserved people, Teach only to those are eagar to learn. Now the govt in the name of democracy the give to vote bank Which has no interest to look ahead.Once their stomuch is filled they go to all wrong doing.Put the adjacent dewellers in to deep trouble.When i am in 9 th standard, my uncle next door to me used to drink and make big abusing and rupturing all the day as drunkard.All my family members used to say they are drunkard.Now i drink but it don't have the Nasha for atleast 3 hours that man used to fight w.o reason all the day.Then i decided not to go back to the village at all.Now his two sons had committed a murder and in jail.As a father if he would ahve guided his son they might be like me as an engineer,instead they are dwelling in jail.So guidence is essential to all human.The child which don't get guidence fails miserably.So if the govt is interested as western does take away all the kids from the aprents are bring them up to 15 years under custody.Then no casteism or any thing will be existing.
RE:Castism created by Brahmins: To HATE each other & NO RESPECT to each other.
by S.Murugan on May 31, 2008 05:01 PM Permalink
IT IS COMPLETELY THE DREAMS OF SOME ONE. SAME CASTES ARE HAVING FC, BC, SC/ST, ETC. SO IT IS NOT TRUE THAT SOME ONE IS LIVING HIGH OTHRES AT BOTTOM. SUCH NUISANCE SHOULD BE KEPT WITHIN THE PLAYGROUNDS NOT WITH THE FACTS.
RE:Castism created by Brahmins: To HATE each other & NO RESPECT to each other.
by Ninaada Bellippady on May 30, 2008 12:01 PM Permalink
Who the hell told you that Brahmins are foreigners? do you really know about the Indian History... However A varna of a person is supposed to be decided by his deeds... not by his birth... Brahmins are the people who study & accumulate knowledge.. Kshathriyas are the ppl who rule(Kings).. Vaishyas r the ppl who work like Carpenters, Goldamiths etc.... Shudras r the ppl who work in the Farmlands & as Servants... So please note that Castism was NOT created by Brahmins... neither they are foreigners.... But if you want to know the Real foreigners in this country are Muslims & Christians...
RE:Castism created by Brahmins: To HATE each other & NO RESPECT to each other.
by raj singh on May 30, 2008 12:59 PM Permalink
Real foriegners are muslim and christians,
Varna system was to make society stable not unstable, i am kshtriya by caste, but my work is of a vaishya (business people).
RE:Castism created by Brahmins: To HATE each other & NO RESPECT to each other.
by cool guy on May 30, 2008 01:59 PM Permalink
Brahmins are foreigners. they are the cause for all social problems.. they came here as a minority and see the unity between the pupil living here. They poluted and divided us into many small groups so that they can rule us. see what is happening. govt. pvt and everywhere they are sitting. thatsy they are against reservation. instead of asking for reservation we should reservation to brahmins and restrict them to 7% of all the jobs.
RE:Castism created by Brahmins: To HATE each other & NO RESPECT to each other.
by S.Murugan on May 31, 2008 05:22 PM Permalink
If we talk like that ALL THE DRAVIDA TAMILIANS AT FOREIGN NATIONS WERE NOT THE ONES RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL TYPES OF EVILS AT OTHER NATION. One should kept in mind that very small number of peoples cannot make major changes on majority without their wish. Not just now, it is many hundreds or thousands of years Tamilnadu becomes mixed single HINDU society. Castes are subdivisions according to their ability. Even today you can see lot of castes were having different categories as FC(equal to brahmins), BC, SC/ST within each of the castes itself. FC belongs not just one caste -Brahmins.
RE:RE:Castism created by Brahmins: To HATE each other & NO RESPECT to each other.
by S.Murugan on May 31, 2008 06:03 PM Permalink
If only Brahmins have divided the society into BRAHMINS, KSHTRIYA, VAISHYA and KSHUDRAS (OBC,SC,ST,WOMEN,.....)INTO 6000 CASTES, ONE BELOW THE OTHER - to serve BRAHMINS, VAISHYA & KSHTRIYA. How others were accepting and following yet?. Everybody is not fools to accept someone's unanimous decision(division). If it is true, it must be at the consent of all(majority), not just few had divided the whole society themselves and everybody had followed it. There should be some limitation for any one's dream. Somebody is giving their own explanation and acting accordingly as similar to brainless and bloody terrorists.
Religion(Hinduism) and castes are inseperable from India. WHEN EVERYBODY IS HAVING SAME BELIEF, NO ONE CAN AVOID IT? If any one tries to do that it is their biggest ever mistake, wasting lot of efforts without any effects. ONE SHOULD TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHY AND HOW SUCH CASTES AND PARTIALITY AMONG PEOPLES HAS STARTED? NOT BASED ON SOMEONE'S ASSUMPTION. Each and every society or caste or religion has its own value. No one is authorised to disturb or claim rights over other's value and property. None of the law could allow such activities. Not only at tamilnadu, all over India, it becomes usual practice to give most importance for anti-dalit than anti-other castes. These dirty politicians were doing politics over caste/untouchability without any probable solutions. It is nothing more than Jealousy on the part of politicians by citing some section of law on uniformity without understanding the fact behind it. They were the ones responsible for all types of caste based evils at India. Caste is one of the motivating factor which brings competitiveness between two and helps in overall growth for society. Anybody can oppsose casteism, Not catse itself. It is biggest foolishness. THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE(less power of thinking and understanding) WERE THE ONES, TALKING ABOUT DIVISION OF PEOPLES BASED ON CASTE as differentiating peoples. It is just similar to dividing the state into districts, districts into taluks, taluks into panchayats etc for better administration. CASTE I
RE:RELIGION AND CASTE
by S.Murugan on May 30, 2008 11:37 AM Permalink
CASTE IS DIVISION(SECTION) AMONG PEOPLES HAVING SIMILAR BEHAVIOUR AND FOLLOWINGS - JUST FOR BETTER CONTROL AND ADMINISTRATION. Governemnet should understand and find out the reason why some section of peoples were kept untouchable and try to uplift such peoples as similar to others. Even when you spent lot of efforts, none of the government could avoid such partiality from well grown society and bring uniformity among all. Even when you provide equal resources to everyone, only some will grown, some will remain, some will go towards undue acts etc. Nobody can question why one is high and one is low? It is habit of individuals. Individuals with similar habits will form groups(as similar to caste) and many groups will form society. ONLY MINOR ADJUSTMENTS AND MANIPULATIONS CAN BE DONE. NOT ANY MAJOR CHANGES IMMEDIATELY. CASTEISM CAN BE AVOIDED BY THE WAY OF LAW OR CONSTITUTION - NOT THE CASTE ITSELF.
m I asking too much if I asked the doctors who treat me whether he got admitted to medical college under reservation scheme? Can I invoke RTI here? It is my life I am putting on the line and would like to know if my doctor is fully qualified to treat me.
RE:Reservation based on cast
by Tom Dick on May 30, 2008 11:30 AM Permalink
Actually we need to inbtroduce more and more scholarships to help needy and not a reservation on cast basis.Industries which are turning in huge profit must earmark a certain amount for scholarships to needy students.
Dravidian leaders are receving huge money from christian missionaries for promoting castism in TN.Each and every dravidian leader got missionary link. Karunanidhi, vaiko, Balu are all belong to same category.At least one memebr or family is converted to christainity of these leaders.They are not only hindus but also anti indians so we shudn't allow them to divide our society.
India is a pseudo secular,pseudo equilatarian country...Political leadership in this country doesnot want to get away with centuries old caste practise and thats why they keep the flame of reservation burning...People blame Hindu religion for the caste sytem but if u r familiar with Vedas u would never blame this religion... caste system is an anachronistic social practice, not a religious one...Although many Hindu scriptures contain passages that can be interpreted to sanction the caste system, they also contain indications that the caste system is not an essential part of Hinduism... The Vedas place very little importance on the caste system, mentioning caste only rarely and in a cursory manner... In the Vedic period, there was no prohibition against the Shudras (which later on became the low-castes) listening to the Vedas or participating in any religious rite...'Hindu and frontline' are owned by lefties and they are so biased in their reporting that i had to immediately stop reading these stupid magzines...If a wall can maintain social harmony and peace in this country we dont need to break such walls ...let us build more such walls so that peace prevails in this land
RE:Let us bulid many more such walls
by p k on May 30, 2008 11:45 AM Permalink
The way you are talking, it seems castism problem in India is only 100 years old, and things were hunky dory before that.
RE:Let us bulid many more such walls
by srinivas on May 30, 2008 11:32 AM Permalink
Oh really. Tell us something new. The caste is the reality of india. The so called lower caste people suppresed for so long are asserting themselves. Thanks to the relative affluence and awareness they have "aquired" now. All these preachings come only from upper caste people. Go tell this to a lower caste guy and he will say take a walk
Dalits, backward, forward, Gujjars,Lingayats, Banniyars are the really the propaganda products of Media - Mafias to distegrate this great country called INDIA.In fact nobody needs to know your cast n should not be propagted through the media.But in India the powerful medias are poisinig the minds of ordinary citizens and making them fights.Peoples should be watchful n careful to these devisive propogand of the powerful media.
