THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION TO THE KASHMIR .INDIA GIVES PAKISTAN THE WHOLE OF KASHMIR ...BUT IN EXCHANGE PAKISTAN GIVES THE WHOLE OF PAKISTAN TO INDIA...
Kashmiris are demanding a plebiscite. Why limit the right of self determination only to Kashmiris? Citizens in Bhendi Bazar, Behram Pada, Maddan Pura, Kurla, Mumbra, Bhiwandi, Aligarh, Malegaon, Hyderabad, Lucknow, Bhopal etc also equally deserve to get the right of self-determination. Let them decide once and for all if they want to live in india or pakistan. Wouldnt it be better for them as well as us???
Though Kashmir was ruled by Mughals, it was under Sikhs rule from 19th century. Gulab Singh was Maharaj of Kashmir from 1820. He was friendly with Brithish & handed over Lahore to them and got the full state of J&K from British in an agreement. After his death in 1857, Ranbir Singh became the king. His grandson Hari Singh ascended the throne in 1925. Remember till not J&K was an independent state - neither to Pak nor to India. At that time, J&K was 77% muslims & 20% Hindus. Their legislative assembly represented their will to accede to State of Pakistan. Hari Singh had a "standstill" agreement with Pak only for trade, travel, communication etc. BUT NOT FOR ACCESSION. But, there was no similar agreement bet J&K and India...(Again remember at that point J&K was an independent state - nither part of India or Pak)..Hari Singh never wanted J&K to be a part of Pakistan. After Indian Independance Mountbatten was Gov General for sometime & Hari Singh had good relationship with British. During Oct 1947 a pakistani group called Pashtuns invaded Kashmir to frighten Hari Singh & accede Kashmir with Pak. But, Hari Singh took the help of Mountbatten & India. He signed an AGREEMENT OF ACCESSION i.e. all part of J&K belongs to India and only to India. Indian army went to J&K and drove away Pashtuns Pakistani group.
But, Pakistan objected that the ACCESSION AGREEMENT WAS FAKE. Then it was presented by India in UN & it was proved the legality of ACCESSION beyond doubt.
RE:History of Kashmir
by Sheetal Kaur on May 20, 2008 06:08 PM Permalink
You are 100% correct, You have hit the nail right on its head. Sikh rule was as far as Kabul in Afghanistan, Hari Singh Nalwa conquered it for Maharajah Ranjit Singh. Well that was then but Kashmirs Maharajah actually came and sought India n military help whn Pakistan invaded Kashmir handing Kashmir to India as you have said. So Kashmir Defiantly belongs to India,There is no shadow of doubt. There should be no compromise of any kind, Pakistan administer what Pakistan got and india administers what India has. If Pakistan still try to Invade Indian Kashmir then India should take Pakistan administered Kashmir as well. India has Power and resources. India should make that clear for once and all. WE have wasted enough money and lost enough jawans there. The money we could have used to better other areas such as Education Health etc, or improved infrastructure.
RE:History of Kashmir
by Neutral on May 20, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
But, Indira Gandhi missed a nice chance to get back Kashmir during 1971 war for getting Independence for Bangladesh.
The army of Pakistan were literally curshed by Indian army from all the sides - air force, military, naval force...Pakistan was literally pleading to stop attack. Indira Gandhi should have made use of this situation to end the Kashmir issue...She just stopped after getting independence to Bangladesh (East Pakistan)..
Another mistake which Indira made was allowing Bangladeshi refugees inside India. Also, she didnt ask them to return back to Bangladesh after getting independence.
Now, bangladeshis are joining hands with Pakistan & Kashmiri militants and bombing India (which got them independence)
RE:History of Kashmir
by Bharat on May 20, 2008 04:55 PM Permalink
Indira Ganghi was a muslim that is why she didn't do all this which should have been done. It was not Indira who fought the battle, it was the pressure and situation and courage of India army who fought and won the war in all fronts. That is why Indian Congress never wants to fight Pakistan again because they knew that Indian will again defeat them. That is why Sh.Lal Bhadur Sashtri was poisined because he was the only few true Indians in Indian Nation Congress Party.
RE:History of Kashmir
by Neutral on May 20, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
But the real problem in Kasmir is that Pakistan says that during 1947 when the ratio of Muslim : Hindu was 77:20 they wanted a plebisite (sort of opinion of Kashmiris) on whether they want to be a part of Pak or India. This plebisite was approved by UN, but has not taken place till now.
If this sort of plebisite is happening then whom would the Kashmir prefer - India or Pakistan.
Knowing very well that the J&K is full of Muslims, India didnt want to conduct plebisite. India claims that illegal Pakistanis are still in J&K. So, the plebisite will have no meaning.
Pakistan was pushing for plebisite till 1971 bcos they believed that J&K people will fully support them. But in 1971 war between India & Pak, it was noted that people of J&K were fully supporting India.
So, these terrorism is happening for decades.
But, legally all part of J&K belongs to india taking into account the ACCESSION AGREEMENT BETWEEN INDIA & KING HARI SINGH.
IN LAST KUMBH MELA I SAW MANY NUDE SADHU AND SADHWI.I WONDER WHAT KIND OF HINDU CULT THESE PEOPLE BELONG.I WONDER THEIR DESCIPLE -MALE & FEMALE TOUCHING THEM TO GET THEIR BLESSSING.I WISHED I COULD HAVE BLESSING OF A SADHWI.WHAT A NUDE BODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I AM SURE THESE SADHU MUST HAVE GOOD TIME WITH THEIR SADHWI.
RE:SADHU
by Glenn on May 20, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
jus what i also have a incident to shara...this 80yrs maulavi married a female of age 18 by paring the required meher........already maulavi had trouble in erecti.on and then the dic'k was also cut in half.....so this maulvi wife used to stand outside her house and plead everyone passing by to satisfy her and give her a full la..an'd and guess who people who enjoyed were all hindus.
RE:SADHU
by shaikhhamid on May 20, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
cheap stuff dude...its their religion and let them who what ever their religion allows them to do...
Our economy is one of the powerful economies in the world hen our government should purchase pak and afgan back from muslims at what ever cost they would tell.
put nukes on the macca and madi when all this terrorist gather their every year, america is also thinking on it then why not india do it first and take all creadit
RE:put nukes on the macca and madi when all this terrorist gather their every year, america is also thinking on it then why not india do it first and take all creadit
by shaikhhamid on May 20, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
dear pehle pakistan se dawood ko to leke aao. baad mein nuke karna mecca ko..
RE:put nukes on the macca and madi when all this terrorist gather their every year, america is also thinking on it then why not india do it first and take all creadit
by Bharat on May 20, 2008 05:00 PM Permalink
Kyun pareshan ho raha hai, Kuch din ruk, pakistan apne aap ko nuke karega.
RE:put nukes on the macca and madi when all this terrorist gather their every year, america is also thinking on it then why not india do it first and take all creadit
by shaikhhamid on May 20, 2008 05:19 PM Permalink
pareshan main nahi lavanyaji ho rahee hai...
Who the hell are these Pakis to present a solution on Kashmir.First of all Kashmir is an integral part of India and no other country can talk about it.We don't need suggestions from these Paki's, this Pranab Mukerjee will make us lose face in front of these tribal Paki's. India should just attack POK saying they harness terrorists(like US did in Afganistan and Iraq) and we can say that this was done to protect the interests of our country.Our govt and our military is answerable to us first and not anyone else. Saala kashmir ke bare mein kuch bhi pagalpan kiya na pranab to saare desh waale tere ko chappal aur gobar se maarege... Watch It!!
