RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by Anti Islamist on May 19, 2008 03:56 PM Permalink
Hindu scriptures does not promise sucide bomber's Apsaras(Hoor/virgin) in paradise( Jannat/swarg)..
Yes, Paradise exist in Hinduism.. but
1) it is never offered to generic Hindus on earth, rather is a place described to be of Devas ( don't mix then with God, but is equivalent to angles of Abhramic religions.... the honor you give to Gabriel, we gave the same honor to deva's)..
2) End Goal was not set to attain Paradise, and 72 virgins, rather is set at nirvana... which means to release yourself from greed, fear and selfishness.. and merge back in the almighty...whereas in Islam the same end goal is full of greed, selfishness and fear .... where either you will get river of wines, Boys with body of pearl, and virgin beauties ... or you will burn in hell...
3) Hinduism never forecast fear on peoples.. it just says.. the work you do, you get the same results back... if you are bad, you will be paid back in bad... and if you are good, you will attain Nirvana.
4)where Martyr in other religions die to prove themselves next to humans... Islamic Martyr Murder other humans to prove themselves...
So stop preaching your perverted ideology, and your false religion ...
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by mahesh k on May 19, 2008 04:32 PM Permalink
Well Done Mr Anti Islamist. Mohammed is the most perverted freak. Infact Quran talks about killing anyone who is a non-muslim. Infact Islam was found from other religions..though it is a good religion..it was Muhammad who spoiled it and spread hatred...u will be shocked to see some palestine and iranian channels broadcast TV shows and even cartoons portraying and fostering martyrdom and killing of non-muslims...ISLAM IS A VIOLENT SEX STORY...
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by Jai Babu on May 19, 2008 04:40 PM Permalink
Why cant communal madcaps like u stop psoting all of this bu**hit on this board. Is it in any way relevant to the topic being discussed????
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by Rash Group on May 19, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
But never in hindu scriptures were told that by killing non-hindus, you can reach swarga and enjoy with apsaras. Thats the difference.
RE:RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by on May 19, 2008 03:10 PM Permalink
so dude,whats ur opinion of 54 year old mo` marying 6 year old aisha... lets come straight to point.. would u admire this behaviour and emulate by letting ur 6yr old daughter marry a 54 year old much married bearded guy...be honest
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by on May 19, 2008 03:13 PM Permalink
no answer salim... i know its tough ...ur prophet left u no where to hide with his behaviour of pedophilia.. i am sorry u got born in faith professed by a mad man...
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by Salim Raza on May 19, 2008 03:23 PM Permalink
I do not answer half minds who can not stick to a point and keep changing topics
RE:RE:RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by balaord on May 19, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
Age of Consent for Marriage - From Journal of Psychology
...Age of Consent throughout history has usually coincided with the age of puberty although at sometimes it has been as early as seven...
...The Roman tradition served as the base for Christian Europe as well as the Christian Church itself which generally, essentially based upon biological development, set it at 12 or 14 but continued to set the absolute minimum at seven....
Ayesha was 9 when the marriage took place. Prophet Muhammed married Ayesha with her permission after she attained puberty at the age of 9.Puberty is a biological sign which shows that a women is capable of bearing children. Can anyone logically deny this? This is certainly not something that Islam invented,this has been the norm of cultures and nations.Today the civilized world considers same sex marriage perfectly legal so it is no wonder the natural bilogical permission for marriage seems to belong -primitive societies.
As to his alleged old age (he was the commander in chief of his army not a shabby saint with hanging skin).You should know Prophet-s marriage to Aishah was an exceedingly happy one for both of them.If you couple this with the fact that attaining the age of puberty varies with countries and races due to the climate, hereditary, physical and social conditions, you wouldnt be asking this question.
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by balaord on May 19, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
There are some sources which claim it to be 16.But it is wrong she was 9 when the marriage took place. Prophet Muhammed married Ayesha with her permission after she attained puberty at the age of 9.Puberty is a biological sign which shows that a women is capable of bearing children. Can anyone logically deny this? This is certainly not something that Islam invented,this has been the norm of cultures and nations.Today the civilized world considers same sex marriage perfectly legal so it is no wonder the natural bilogical permission for marriage seems to belong -primitive societies.
As to his alleged old age (he was the commander in chief of his army not a shabby saint with hanging skin).You should know Prophet-s marriage to Aishah was an exceedingly happy one for both of them.If you couple this with the fact that attaining the age of puberty varies with countries and races due to the climate, hereditary, physical and social conditions, you wouldnt be asking this question.
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by on May 19, 2008 02:59 PM Permalink
we are ready to dismissd stories of apsaras as medieval lies, myths... and fantasies with no iota of religious or historic significance .. .are u ready to admit that mohammad too cooked up the stories of houris to motivate his followers to die for him ....
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by anshuman sinha on May 19, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
that is where our moral cowardice lies.. we should not blame others.... we have divided the country for them.. then practiced secularism... dont even have the guts to have a common unified law for all... 1972 when we uprooted east pakistan all and sundry adviced indira to aneexe bangladesh including aurobindo ghosh, but gandhi (the hindu facade is an eyewash for the hindu public circa rajiv gandhis hindu funeral)married to a muslim showed her true colors.. Until we get the nehru gandhi dynasty out of the helm i dont think we can do anything and should face our consequences silently.
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by Salim Raza on May 19, 2008 03:02 PM Permalink
Nope.
Instead you better dismiss Idolatry and polytheism.
God made this world and this life an imperfect replica of life to come in hereafter. So Jannat and Companionship, Beauty and Perfection are all in things for Hereafter. Noway we will reject 'Companionship in Jannat'.
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by vox populi on May 19, 2008 03:29 PM Permalink
if what raza says is true why be born--kill all unborns and let them get to paradise immly--anyway killing is ingrained
RE:RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by on May 19, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
companionship of 72 virgins...even ur trance artist was happy with 13 wives, a few sex slaves and u want 72 pure bred virgins... too much u ask for dude...
RE:APSARA URVASHI vs Hoors of Quran
by on May 19, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
SEE All religions are man made... indian religions are distilaation of thousands of years of customs and accumulation of wisdom(and some crap) from lots of people while islam is just a made up belief of an epileptic patient who just cooked up stories from his half baked knowledge of bible and torah....i am sure if god exists ,he surely isnt bothered about how u pray,piss,fornicate or how many wives are u allowed... he is a one who just lets world be as it is and obey his laws....its tough beleiving in a god whose prophet took slaves,married a 6 year old kid and stole wvies of his defeated opponents....give me peaceful buddhism anyday over this violent crime filled. monotheism
convert all bangladeshi muslims to other faiths like buddhism,hinduism and christianity....... they all will run away or atleast will leave terrorism if embrace other peaceful faiths..
RE:RE:convert them
by arun singh on May 19, 2008 03:14 PM Permalink
Convert also all RSS followers into peace loving human beings. That will also help eradicate terrorism.
Even before my message are posted or viewed why are they being reported for abuse and bloced by moderator. In all these years I have never posted a single abusive message on rediffboard
its not a question of bangladeshi or pakistani or any nationality - The common factor for terrorism is muslims. Our hindu brtehren will cry communalism everytime some one tries to do something about it. The muslims are taking full advantage of this. Yes I do agree a minority of muslims who are not into terrorism will be affected, and once they get affected you will see the change from within and they themselves will weed out the terrorists.
Relevant verses from the Koran and quotes from the Hadiths:
Koran 78:31 As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.
Koran 37:40-48 ...They will sit with bashful, dark-eyed virgins, as chaste as the sheltered eggs of ostriches.
Koran 44:51-55 ...Yes and We shall wed them to dark-eyed houris. (beautiful virgins)
Koran 52:17-20 ...They shall recline on couches ranged in rows. To dark-eyed houris (virgins) we shall wed them...
Koran 55:56-57 In them will be bashful virgins neither man nor Jinn will have touched before. Then which of the favors of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 55:57-58 Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Then which of the favors of your Lord will you deny ?"
Koran 56:7-40 ...We created the houris (the beautiful women) and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand.. "
Koran 55:70-77 "In each there shall be virgins chaste and fair... Dark eyed virgins sheltered in their tents whom neither man nor Jin will have touched before..
RE:jannat
by suresh on May 19, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
Mohammed knew that sex would sell very well among the group of his lecherous followers who were motivated to fight battles by the promise of sex slaves and booty. Once the followers got to heaven, they could pleasure themselves with endless sexual encounters with 'Houris' (beautiful young virgins)... 72 virgins girls and 28 young pre-pubescent boys. Mohammed goes one step further and expands the promise of virgins to include a free sex market where there is no limit of the number of sexual partners. Women and young boys are on display as if in a fruit market where you can choose the desired ripeness. Allah is indeed merciful!
RE:jannat
by Salim Raza on May 19, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
Suresh, instead of being sly, remember that in your faith too you have Swarga, and Apsara (s) in swarga.
Do you know who is most sensuous of all Apsaras in Swarga as per your Hindu scriptures .... it is URVASHI.
RE:jannat
by on May 19, 2008 02:56 PM Permalink
ya salim ....but we are not told to kill in name of allah all who dont believe in our faith to enjoy with the virgins of heaven....i dont think any hindu does suicide bomibg to copulate with urvashi...whereas al qaida manuial training motivates its cadre by telling stories of virgins and endless fuc...
