In a banana republic with spineless leaders, never assertive, who never encourage talent, research, science and technology to even match the chinese but are more interested in caste and religious votebank equations, what more can you expect? If we are weak and slavish, a day will come when China will claim entire India. Wake up guys, come out of petty politics and solve the real challenges
RE:bana republic
by excelwin on May 19, 2008 07:08 AM Permalink
Buddy, Could'nt agree more. If setting up 5o nuclear attack launch pads and diverting Brahmaputra river are not alarming matters,the only plausible explanation could be a sellout of India to china by the spineless Indian leadership, through its local masters-the Left!
This is expected from a government whose day to day activities are dictated by the communists. Shame on us. We have lost all of our nationalistic feeling to make a strong protest. The entire nation has been held on ransom by the communists and we are just mere spectator. Their one and only goal is to destroy India's independence and make the country puppet to China.
RE:Danger of communists
by Jaichand on May 19, 2008 05:57 AM Permalink
Atleast half of indian border is sea and we have problems with every country on the border seems like the seemingly peace loving countries policies are wrong? China Pakistan Bangladesh all of Northeast Kashmir For india all the border is a problem??? i am clueless may be india itself has to look within and do a soul searching
NO OTHER COUNTRY IS IN A DEEP SHIT WITH ITS ALL ITS NEIGHBOURS THAN INDIA.
RE:Danger of communists
by Prem Mohan on May 19, 2008 07:22 AM Permalink
China too has or has had border problems with its neighbours, including Russia, Vietnam. Even now, it has problems over the Spratly Islands with Vietnam, Taiwan and Japan. Only weak countries such as Burma have succumbed to Chinese pressure.
RE:Danger of communists
by satish sherma on May 19, 2008 07:05 AM Permalink
After the war with Chineese, answering reporter, who asked Mao whether he would like to take the entire India. He replied taking India is simple & not worth, as in India there is not a leader now who cannot be bought. That much for Nehru & the Commies.
The US of A does not have any problems with its democratic Northern Neighbour.
I have spoken to chinese and they regard India as little more than a nation which needs to be crushed and humiliated.
I wish a dozen more earthquakes and disasters happen in china which will keep these mongrels occupied with internal relief operations instead of eyeing their Neighbours territories.
Wish there were no flies, cockroaches, chinese, communists and Jihadis in this world.
RE:Things could have been so rosier !
by AJ M on May 19, 2008 07:08 AM Permalink
Vishnu
The harsh truth is that neighbors or for that matter anybody respects the powerful and assertive- read agressive. India should have played the role of a big brother after consolidating its gains after independence, made strategic relationships with Russia and China (not bhai bhai sloganeering or wishing others goodwill but by a planned giving-receiving startegy) and then brobeaten Bangladesh and other machhar Islamic countries into submission. We didn't do that; we remained in fear of Arab backlash; oil embargo; and exposed our serious weaknesses via internal riots, lack of administraion, scurity control, etc. We are really sitting ducks. Much like USA went for an easy kill of Iraq, China probably thinks that India is an easy pushover, a low hanging fruit to achieve quick small succes to look liek a power before taking on the ugly west. We Indians can't work together, focus on issues of national improtance, prepar'd to suffer weak leadership, particpitae politically, or take risks. Our Bhagat Singhs are too few. No wonder little nothings like Pakistan and Bangladesk stick their middle finger in India's face repeatedly and USA does not feel inclined for a real relationship. Which country will respect us if we can't handle our population growth,m security, poverty, education of 70% illetrate children etc. even after 60 years. Do we even have a plan? IT is a passing thing. Our successes are too few for a nation of our size and timeline since independence.
RE:Things could have been so rosier !
by Vishnu Sharma on May 19, 2008 07:22 AM Permalink
You are right in all your comments except Bhagat Singh. He was a misguided Marxist and is repeatedly being cited as an example by the anti-National Marxist rabble which wants to bring down the very state we live in.
Wish he had never allowed himself to be brainwashed with Marxist crap in prison by the Brit authorities. He should have read the works of Nanak and Vivekananda instead.
chinese really reserve the greatest contempt in this world for us ineffective, pussilamous INDIANS. Only a hard disembowelling kick in their groin will change their perspective about it.
RE:Things could have been so rosier !
by satish sherma on May 19, 2008 07:00 AM Permalink
yes,yes & no sharmas, shuklas, mishras, chaturvedis in this country
and we help send them relief items for their earthquake. Chinese dont know what the meaning of friendship is. Sometimes you remove a thorn with a thorn.
RE:RE:and we help them
by Sheetal Kaur on May 19, 2008 04:53 AM Permalink
Indiman, Relief is humanitarian not political. Border frights are political. What has an earthquake victim got to do with border. When there was a n Earthquake Pakistan set relief to Buhj. do you remember or are you just talking form your rear orifice.
RE:and we help them
by indiman on May 19, 2008 05:07 AM Permalink
so heres how it is. We send them releif assistance for 5 million dollars. then the next day they send a financial package to the Bangladeshi intelligence for 5 million to increase funding for terrorist camps on the Indian border. This 5 million leads to the killing 1000 Indian army and another 1000 Indian civilians in tripura/assam and the chinese high five each other for their sucess. I have the rights to my own opinion and I care for the lives of my fellow countryman more than a chinese. Especially when my country is not perpetuating any trrorist activity in China. I have no regrets for my opinion, you can call me whatever names you want.
RE:and we help them
by indiman on May 19, 2008 06:22 AM Permalink
if they are so rich then why are they begging for money from everybody, why say we are open for money but not staff support. I think when you ask for money you should have some humility, rethink your decision not to sponsor terrorism in a country that is trying to help.
RE:and we help them
by AJ M on May 19, 2008 07:13 AM Permalink
We are the problem. Our culture has this weakness- do not eye others things, do not be agressive, peace, non-interference, non-violence, etc. etc. Real power play and relationships do not work on thse principles. They are good for posturing only and good-feel speeches.
How come VHP and Bajrang dal/Shiv sena etc are silent... They are quick to destroy things like KFC, peace, talk rubbish... but when it comes to national security....CHUP...
RE:Send VHP/Bajrang Dal to the border
by Narendra parihar on May 19, 2008 03:51 AM Permalink
why dont you send our communist leaders.. why do they shy away from news like this.. they protest against US-India nuke deal... these leaders are worthless morons, wonder how come they get elected every time..
RE:Send VHP/Bajrang Dal to the border
by amit babbar on May 19, 2008 03:27 AM Permalink
wo mare hue he hain...elections se thode din pahle dubara janm hoga...
The logical solution to all these issue for India to engage China with more cultural ties including an open border for people to people contact thus removing disparties. The modern state of India is just 60-year old but cultural exchanges between Tibet (China) and many NorthEastern states had been going on since time immemorial and it should be allowed to continue.
RE:Chini Indi Bhai Bhai
by Rameez on May 19, 2008 03:53 AM Permalink
This is incorrect. India should start claiming chinese terriotry as part of India, as offence is best defence. India and the congress govt is seen as weak party to border pressure as Pakistan and China keep claiming Indian soil as theirs.
RE:Indian army is a coward army in the whole world.
by Nitesh on May 19, 2008 02:11 AM Permalink
Think before giving such statements. Dont you know what indian army is doing for your safety. What do you mean by total waste? Go to the borders and see what our armymen are doing to protect you. Ppl like you should be called traitors for not having faith in the nation and its forces
RE:Indian army is a coward army in the whole world.
by Mukesh Garg on May 19, 2008 02:24 AM Permalink
Indian army is one of the strongest armies in the world (both mentally and physically). But they have to follow orders of our spineless politicians and that changes the whole game.
RE:Indian army is a coward army in the whole world.
by Shankar on May 19, 2008 03:01 AM Permalink
u r such an ignorant person.....u dont know y the kargil episode happened? u better be going through some educating material rather than sitting lazily in the couch and spittin ur ignaorance here in these forums!!!
RE:Indian army is a coward army in the whole world.
by Gandhi on May 19, 2008 04:19 AM Permalink
Despite not being equipped with latest and best weaponary, our Army is still is one of the strongest in the world. Still our soldiers have sence of pride for the work they do and patriotism is high. Man no comparison of our solders if it comes to bravery, they dont fear any thing. This is why China has not trying engagng us further after 1962 war. By the way the defeat that we suffered in 62 was due to the result of stupidity of our then Govt as they had very wrongly understood the ground strengths of the two focrces. If you study the role of army and Governance during that war war you will find the flaws that the govt has tried to hide, and sort of examplary work Army put in. Even then despite not winning our brave solders inflicted huge damage to China miltary, for them to know how our guys fight at borders. Please dont measure the presence of Army with the expenses. You dont know for what salary a Jawan works and if he is engaged in Border, you will never hear any one who complains. Such situations the question of life and death is as simple as a Yes or No or simply a toss up between these two. Man you dont have a brother, Uncle or a son working in forces or you would know the magnitude of work the do and the productive output they have.
RE:Indian army is a coward army in the whole world.
by Faceless Indian on May 19, 2008 02:23 AM Permalink
Chill Reddy betaaa...... there will be NO war between India and China. China is smart enuff to realise that India will never attack first - and if it attacks, India will run crying to the US. The US will then have an excellent excuse to show its friendship with India and build a military base in the Northeast to counter china. Thats the only area where the US doesnt have china surrounded and the Chinese will not play into their hands.
And given the trade relations between India and China at the moment - the stakes are too high for both the countries to indulge in a fist fight. All these nonsenscial Sikkim and Arunachal controversies will just drag on and nothing will come out if it..... they will remain just that - controversies.
