8% can rule 92% if the 92% are further divided in 1000 differnt groups and one group not supporting other..did ur muslims ever fight with whole of india as one unit??....can any muslim country in today's time win a war against india?...pakistan (again may be 10% of india's population) tried many times...what happened...mughals attacked marathas with 8 times bigger army that too more advanced than the marathas what happened?....dont cook up this 8% madarssa theory... your 8% always fought with less than 1% at any given time......when prithviraj chauhan fought his own father in law did not support him...same goes with rana sanga and rana pratap singh...................
but this 8% theory suits isreal which did take on your 92% and won!
RE:@palani
by Palani on May 18, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
you better take Kahani ghar gharki and saas bi bahu thee. maratas were not there before. all came after mughal teach you some knowldge. tell them what was marata's governing system? did they have any system of culture? tell me one authenticated marata literature which was more than 500 years old. Still India is using some mughal system in Government offices. Taluk- can you tell what is the correct word for taluk in hindi or marati? Tehsil firqa jama bandi
RE:@palani
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 01:00 PM Permalink
South India was never under Mughal influence. Go and see the pure hindu culture. Even you can find the synonyms for the words you have mentioned above. The the plight of Turkey, the highest seat for islamic empire. It has been begging at the door of western powers to include it among themselves.
Instead of putting strong words with Pakistan and ensure that India is safe, they are always saying that we will talk to pakistan on peace process. what they have achived by 4 years of peace talk.... Major blasts at 15 places and no punishment to culprits.. rather they are being saved for vote bank politics.
Shame to Mr. PM.
And let us say that PM is coward and can't take decisions on Tough Issues, the question is if he can take good decisions on Economy of India. India having inflation at a soaring rate. I am sure that this team of PM and P.Chidambaran has taken taken no visionary steps in last 4 years to make India a developed country by 2020.
What I want to say that this PM is weak in taking decisions and is being played as puppet in the hands of Sonia Madam. Like Karan, this PM is also standing against the Integrity of India. He must give more importance to country than being loyal to Gandhi Family. If he can't take decision as PM, he should walk away from this post.
This PM goes to Bhutan and says that we will make friendship with Bhutan. what a childish statement. A weak makes friendship with weak and thats what PM is reflecting through his behaviour.
I know I am hard on Mr. PM because I see India going nowhere in the rule of UPA.
By Default one comes to comparison mode with what NDA did. Mr. Vajapayee in his very first year, brought india into the world map and people by doing Permanu tests. World started recognizing india thereafter p
RE:We feel shame to be ruled by UPA
by Rajan Daniel on May 18, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
Mr M Mohan gets all his advices from another coward Narayan, who doesn't have a back borne. It's time this guy resign and allow some one who can handle these situations to give propper advice. At this moment. all arround India there is a great dark cloud surrounding and threatening our geo political interests: In Nepal, Pakistan ever threatening (one day Pak and Iran will get together against the Indian interests), Tibet is no more it was a buffer zone bet ween India and China. Now China directly threatening our interests. China also influnsed Pkistan, Tibet (by directly occupying it)Bangladesh, and now Sri-lanka too. The Sri-lankan Leader has visited China numerous time, and Sl had become a handling tool in the hands of the Chinese leaders.
RE:RE:We feel shame to be ruled by UPA
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 01:06 PM Permalink
moreover, in Delhi itself, we find variants of all the enemeies referred by Rajan Daniel.
RE:We feel shame to be ruled by UPA
by Righteous on May 18, 2008 01:08 PM Permalink
hi Rajan Daniel GOOD INFORMATION keep posting...& educating Foolish Corrupt, Cunning Indian People ......CURRENT UPA GOVT Congres & Commies ARE ACTING & DEVICING POLICIES AGAINST INDIAN INTERESTS....LITERALLY.......Commies of India facilitated MAOISTS to rein in power in Nepal , Now chinese are more closer & greater Foothold against India...Corrupt Cunning Indian People will Wake Up LATELY WHEN NATION WILL BE NEAR PERIL....
RE:We feel shame to be ruled by UPA
by Righteous on May 18, 2008 12:49 PM Permalink
hi praveen are you FOOLISH & MORON...
...inspite of so many Messages & Information you are still saying him as COWARD / SPINELESS....
....boss they are not COWARD / SPINELESS ..THEY ARE cunning SHAMELESS CORRUPT...they can do anything war, arrests, pota, regulations etc....BUT THEY WANT TO EARN KICKBACKS from USA , ,indulge in Corrrupt Practices while remaining in Power.....GOT IT OR NOT..
RE:We feel shame to be ruled by UPA
by praveen on May 18, 2008 12:41 PM Permalink
By Default one comes to comparison mode with what NDA did. Mr. Vajapayee in his very first year, brought india into the world map and people by doing Permanu tests. World started recognizing india thereafter plus the IT industry also helped in the same. In his times only, economic reforms started. He took hard steps without caring for votes and it is that reform cycle that is making india india grow by 8% for last 6 years. India growth stroy has no contribution from existing PM or Mr. chidambaram.
ALLAH gives punishment to wrongdoers in the world as well as when they die.
When a hindu person dies he is burned by his own children or beloveds. They think that by burning them they are doing him good but actually it is punishment to him.
There was a muslim wrongdoer who use to sell Alcohol. When he died and was buried his body started burning in the ground. After further investigation people came to know he was the wrongdoer who used to sell alcohol. So if you are even a muslim but a wrongdoer you will get punishment from ALLAH.
So whenever a hindu person dies he is burned by his own beloved children.
BUT BUT BUT the same is not done if a small child from a hindu family dies. WHY WHY WHY the small child from a hindu family if dies is buried and not burned.
BECAUSE it is not a small child mistake that he is born in a hindu family. So he does not get the punishment from ALLAH.
ALLAH has made this system for punishment and hindus think that they are doing something good after burning their parents.
There is still time to come to the right path. Otherwise youll will repent.
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 12:51 PM Permalink
Your analysis of hindu society is partly correct, but the medicine you are suggesting has expired long back. Instead of converting hindus , better defend the territory and people under islamic influence. See the plight of people in Islamic world.
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by Falcon on May 18, 2008 12:57 PM Permalink
You have a wrong perception that muslims convert others by force even it never happend when muslim invaded this country,,,,,,
Whoever converted it was by their wish, forget past in current situation islam is spreading so fast in the west there is no force, no mullah concept etc then whats making them attracted towards this faith.......
RE:RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
If this perception is wrong as you say,then there is a urgent need to change the perception and reinforce what the correct perception is. Most non-Muslims are not having a very high opinion of Islam as terrorism under the name of Jihad perpetrated by a few is givin the religion and all its followers, a bad name
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by Falcon on May 18, 2008 01:12 PM Permalink
I have alredy explained the reason of please read it carefully.....
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by King on May 18, 2008 12:54 PM Permalink
I already said in my post. ALLAH will punish all who are wrongdoers. Even Muslims, Hindu, Cristian or any other religion. He gives punishment to all. So if it is a Islamic world or a Cristian world or a Hindu world
RE:RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 01:00 PM Permalink
For human society to survive today's violent times,it should be a human world and not a Hindu/Islamic/Christian world.Rreligion should remain within the domain of the individual and he should have the freedom to practice the religion that he believes and not aim at forcibly imposing his religion and religious beliefs on other fellow human beings
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by Falcon on May 18, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
No doubt you will be abused but keep on disclosing the truth you will be an eye opener for all the idoltrous,,,,,,
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 12:56 PM Permalink
The knowledge about Hindu traditions displayed by you two are at best admirable.As for Islam, Muslims have always been taught to believe that there is only one God and those who do not follow Islam are infidels(Kafirs).This interpretation is largely the handiwork of Mullahs/Maulvis,who want Muslims that their religion is the only great religion and there is a necessity to wage war against non-believers of Islam.However every religion charts out a way of life for its followers and no religion propagates hatred towards fellow human beings.Allha should be punishing all those that are taking the lives of innocents under the pretext of waging a holy war.Jihad,i believe implies the battle of a person with the vices and demonic tendencies within oneself,that is against one's won conscience intended to cleanse the human mind and soul of all evil thoghts.If this is true,why has the term Jihad got itself associated and maligned with violent terrorist activities.Can u explain considering you seem to depict that you have great knowledge about religion and religious scriptures & practices.Please enlighhten with ur divine thoughts,Mr Falcon/Mr King.U do not seem to have the guts to reveal your true identity while describing the treatise that you have narrated
RE:RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by Falcon on May 18, 2008 01:03 PM Permalink
heramb gude
What identity has to do to deliver the msg...
There is no where written in Quran that you should wage war againt infidels or non muslims if they are not following islam.....
You have a wrong perception about all these and i dont think any mullah or maulvi also propogating that sort of stuffss, might be some people who are fighting and killing innocents but they are using islam as their basis,,,,,
Moreover, Islam regards whatever property or money considered by non-Muslims as valuables%u2014according to their faiths%u2014and pledges to protect them, even if they pose no real value to Muslims. if non-Muslims did no harm to Muslims and they were peaceful instead, then Muslims would have no right to fight them. Besides, Muslims are ordered to give such a kind of non-Muslims their due rights and do them justice because Allah likes those who are just. Nevertheless, the cases where Muslims are allowed to fight against non-Muslims are when they start fighting first, when they violate the privacy of Muslims, expel them from their homes, or hinder them from conveying the message of Islam. Also, Muslims are permitted to fight against non-Muslims when they confiscate Muslims' right to propagate Islam through providing clear evidence and proof. Physical Jihad is allowed when non-Muslims wage war against Muslims, or when they kill Muslim callers,,,,
RE:The Punishment to HINDUS from ALLAH
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 01:11 PM Permalink
Thanks for the info.I too have Muslim friends but what you r saying is fact,then even they seem to have some misconceptions about their own religion.I am no the most religious person and have no great knowledge of religion and religious practices.If you can send this message across to as many of your Muslim brethren,many of whom feel awkward to openly oppose violent terror activities that would be a great help in preventing alienation of Muslims from the Indian mainstream.The bakery man whom I know calls himself Raju and not by his real name fearing reprisal of Hindu customers.Muslims,Hindus,Christians,Sikhs have to cohabit for India to be an internally secure and democratic country.Sadly divisive political forces like the Congress do not want that to happen
RE:Could anyone read the article
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
Yes, In Afganistan too? Although the country%u2019s ethnic groups are mentioned in the national anthem, Sikhs and Hindus are not. They also say they have no representatives in the government and parliament.
RE:Could anyone read the article
by blogged on May 18, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
Thanks for taking time to read, I wish more and more people read and somehow reach our PM office where they can take this issue to the highest office in Afghan / UN .....
RE:muslims
by SHUQ on May 18, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
That is Pakistani Mentality, that has nothing to do with Indian Muslims or Muslims of any part of the world. You narrow minded chelas of Whites, do not think Pakistan meant all the muslims in the world. Remember, Indian muslims are more in strength than Pakistan, leave alone the world.
RE:muslims
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
Good that you r more in strength than Pakistan.Use this very strength and capability to assimilate Muslims in the Indian mainstream society and stop Muslim youth from being misguided and encouraged towards the path of terror under the name of Jihad.While India has had a number of nationalistic Muslims like MC Chagla,APJ Abdul Kalam,Naushad,Muslims should shun the attempts by the pseudo-secularist Congress to segregate them from the rest of Indian society by implementing its divisive agenda under the pretext of the Sachar recommendations.Muslims should get equal opportunity as citizens of India and not because.Improving the standard of education among our Muslim should be on top of our agenda.
RE:muslims
by Falcon on May 18, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
You seem to be another brainwashed RSS element.
You guys problem is You cannot think of anything but Muslims,Jihad etc etc. It haunts your day and night. Come out of it. I wish you had not graduated from the filthy RSS Shakha, where your mind was poisoned against Muslims. Where you were not taught to worship Hitler.
RE:muslims
by Ali boy on May 18, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
So Amir sohails statement is the statement of all muslisms to you....what about Praveen Togadia distributing TRISHULS TO HIS GANG MEMEBERS ONLY DECOITS DO SUCH ACTS TO TERRORIZE innocents ... what was that.Did i hurt your rioting mentality.
RE:RE:muslims
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
What about the radical change that has been observed in Pakistani cricketers ranging from Inzamam to YOusuf and Saeed Anwar.Does that not depict the changing mentality of the people of Islamic Pakistan? As for Hindus,do you mean to say that the atrocities that were inflicted by Aurangzeb on Hindus for being Hindus should simply be forgotten and swept under the carpet
RE:RSS was weakened by nehru dynasty to appease islamists
by Righteous on May 18, 2008 12:33 PM Permalink
hi Satyarthi You have stated a FACT pls Keep posting more about truths of Nehru & Congress
RE:RSS was weakened by nehru dynasty to appease islamists
by SHUQ on May 18, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
What a joke RSS and nationalists. Earlier during independence these were the same forces who were dividing Indians on the lines of Hindus and Muslims. And do not forget the Khaki Chaddi left by whites. These forces are still loyal to britishers. Hoping for their comeback and permanent funding.
RE:RSS was weakened by nehru dynasty to appease islamists
by Ali boy on May 18, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Read about HITLER AND MUSSOLONI the pinnacle of nationalism and also read what there people have done to them ...after they ruined their nations.
RE:RSS was weakened by nehru dynasty to appease islamists
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
Muslim started demanding pakistan much before RSS origin. Infact when partition of Bengal was annulled, muslim became restless. Read ideology of pakistan. It is available on internet.
RE:RSS was weakened by nehru dynasty to appease islamists
by praveen on May 18, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
Mr Sharukh Khan..... you are speaking language of communists... and it is not worthwhile to describe communists...
Read and know things more closely before speaking any s**t
RE:RSS was weakened by nehru dynasty to appease islamists
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
What satyarthi is definitely not off the mark.The 'great' Jawaharlal Nehru proudly styled himself as the last Englishman in India.As for dividing Hindus and Muslims,we have had enough of them like the Indian Union Muslim League,MIM and many others including the present-day Congress and its Sachar Commission shenanigans.Indian media that is highly partisan in favour of the Congress receive huge financial aid from Western countries with the sole objective of eulogising and glorifying the misdeeds of the Congress by brading it falsely as secular and on the other hand,this same Hinglish electronic and print media-CNN IBN,NDTV,Headlines Today/Aaj Tak,TOI/Times Now villify and demonise the RSS/VHP/BJP.Congress minority appeasement politics that is at the root of inaction agaisnt terrorism and repeal of POTA has made India's internal security situation absolutely hazardous
I was reading an article in one or the daily, and interestingly on the plight of Hindus and Sikhs in afganistan. Our PM welcomes any aid to afghanistan or for that matter any country ends with "stan" xcept hindustan
pls read this article wwwdotthenationaldotaeslasharticleslash20080517slashFOREIGNslash281812505.
pls dont treat this as hatred article, we need to ask our govt to talk to their counterpart in afghan
RE:I dont know why my this
by Ali boy on May 18, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
You should also read the plight of muslims in Afghnistan,Iraq,Chehneya,philipines,srilanka, Gujrat etc.
RE:I dont know why my this
by heramb gude on May 18, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
First enlighten yourself about the plight of Kashmiri Pandits in Muslim dominated Kashmir.There has been a systematic ehnic cleansing program implemented by Jihadi elements that has compelled these Hindu Pandits to leave a miserable life of refugees in and around Delhi outside their home state of J & K
Please RSS/Sangh/BJP/VHP do not divide India and Indians for the sake of funding and votes.
Please change your strategies. Hire some educated guys and change the old pattern let our country move forward. Do not support western forces to weaken our country.
RE:RE:Please RSS for the sake of funding do not divide India again
by Ali boy on May 18, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
There are 10 times more educates people with Naxalites,LTTE and AL-Qaieda. What do you say about that.
RE:Please RSS for the sake of funding do not divide India again
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 01:14 PM Permalink
Yes, they are educated, but not cultured. They are waging a political war against mainstream society. RSS does not believe in waging war. It bothers about and works for upliftment of hindu society.
RE:Please RSS for the sake of funding do not divide India again
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
RSS is only force (albiet severly constrained) that is fighting on three fronts to save indian culture. Islamists, churchists and REDs are working in tandem to convert the Hindus, the only part of the globe that is resisting their pressure.
RE:Please RSS for the sake of funding do not divide India again
by Ali boy on May 18, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
RSS is the only force which believes in dividing a country again in two and organizing a genocide so that there is a civil war and we again go back to dark ages. People MUST understand that such forces are evil and they cannot survive and they take a heavy toil finally with them.WE SHOULD LEARN FROM HISTORY OF OTHER COUNTRIES WHERE NATIONALISM WAS PRACTICED IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT WAS IN FACT ANTI-NATIONALISM.
it creates and nourish demons to terrorise people. Bhinderwale, Raj Thakrey, Naxals, jehadis, conversionists, etc., were used/ are used by congress strategists to terrorise Indians.
RE:Congress can go to any extent to retain its dynastic rule
by Righteous on May 18, 2008 12:35 PM Permalink
hi Satyarthi You have stated a FACT pls Keep posting more about truths of Nehru & Congress
RE:Congress can go to any extent to retain its dynastic rule
by SHUQ on May 18, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
Earlier it was only Congress, now BJP, SanghParivar(RSS)(Nagpur). These forces are also funding militants.
Better we must install Cameras in almost all the big and small cities to monitor the activites of RSS and SIMI and other such disruptive forces. Also keep an eye for CIA. Intelligence wake up Intelligence wake up Save India
RE:RE:Congress can go to any extent to retain its dynastic rule
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
Don't compare RSS with SIMI or jammait islami. The aim, objectives and ethos are totally different.
RE:Congress can go to any extent to retain its dynastic rule
by Ali boy on May 18, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
The only difference is RSS is capable of proviking its gang members to organize Genocide of Innocent minorities in the name of natonalism. Any hindu who joins RSS is a fool and his loyality is to the constitution of india and not to the RSS's constitution and that accepting the constitution of our country is in fact nationalism.
RE:Congress can go to any extent to retain its dynastic rule
by satyarthi on May 18, 2008 01:19 PM Permalink
RSs is an open organisation. It conducts its shakhas in open. The shakha activity starts with a prayer in glory of motherland, not any one type of God. Even a christan or a muslim, living in her own country can get the prayer translated in her own language and start glorifying their mother lands. in additionto prayer participants do some drill to keep themselvs physically fit.