Poonam was bundled into a waiting jeep on Thursday night and thrown into the Rajasthan canal by her father and six other male members of her Jat family because she wouldn't let go of Mukhram, a young Dalit boy. But the feisty 19-year-old survived drowning, in what would probably have been the umpteenth honour killing in Haryana, to fight back and charge her relatives with attempted murder. Among those accused are Poonam's father Prabhu Ram, her cousin Satbir, grandfather Jat Ram and four others. Sirsa SP Vikas Yadav, too, said prima facie it did seem like the girl's father tried to kill her. The case comes days after Subhash Chander, a Chicago resident, killed his daughter Monika, son-in-law Rajesh Jhamb and grandchild Vansh in their Oak Forest apartment because Monika married "below her caste."
RE:Love my religion...ONE RELIGION HINDU..ONE CULTURE HINDUTVA
by Rajendra Rao on May 15, 2008 02:57 AM Permalink
There is this taxi driver Muslim from Porkistan living in Texas.This happened 2 months ago.His 2 daughters were in high school, and were dating white American boys. Muslim Daddy, in keeping with the prophet's tradition, guns them down, and absconded. Most likely back in porkistan. Anyone catch him, there is a $50K reward. While at it, try to find Osama Bin Laden. The lad is worth 50 million cool American dollars. There this happened 6 months ago in Canada- A Muslim from Porkistan suffocated and killed his daughter for refusing to wear sharia.
End of story- Moral: Do not admit Muslims into Western sopcieties- they just do not adapt.
RE:RE:Love my religion...ONE RELIGION HINDU..ONE CULTURE HINDUTVA
by Rajendra Rao on May 15, 2008 03:04 AM Permalink
A week after 9/11, I was in a bank, and a white guy tells me "I forgive you"- what the heck. We Hindus are now mistaken for Muslim cockroaches! The funny thing is, Muslims have more rights than local Americans in USA now: this is true story:
An American student has epilepsy and has a trained dog that protects him in case of epileptic fits. He was kicked out of a college last week, because the Somali Muslim students on campus protested to administrators that Islam does not permit Muslims to sit in a room with a dog. Can you believe this BS? Only Muslims are capable of bombing Americam and then demand Islamic rights!
Women's rights in Pakistan are once again in the international spotlight as delegates attend a high-profile two-day conference on the issue in Islamabad.
One of the key objectives of the talks, according to Pakistan's women's development ministry, is to improve the country's image in the context of women's rights.
But activists argue that crimes against women are not an "image problem".
They say such crimes - especially rape - result from a combination of tribalism, retrogressive cultural values and a criminal justice system in a state of deep rot.
We have a strong policy and programme here which the government is putting across very successfully to combat violence against women Nilofer Bakhtiar, women's affairs minister, Pakistan
The government of President Pervez Musharraf defends its record and says violence against women is a global problem.
It has repeatedly insisted that it has done more for women's empowerment in Pakistan than any previous administration in the country.
Although planned several weeks ago, the conference comes hot on the heels of new cases of rape involving policemen and tribal councils or jirgas.
Police accused
These cases either involve allegations of rape against policemen or accusations that the tribal bodies have perverted the course of justice.
Earlier this week, a young woman alleged that she had been gang raped by four policemen in Rawalpindi. One officer was arrested and three others are missing.
Mukhtar Mai Mukhtar Mai's courage has inspired many rape victims to go public She was supposedly punished for failing to pay a bribe of 100,000 rupees ($1,674) demanded by the police for the release of her husband.
Last week, a 23-year-old woman from Faisalabad went public with her accusations against police in the city.
She said her husband had been arrested on charges of preparing forged documents for stolen cars.
She was raped allegedly on the orders of the Faisalabad police chief for seeking to publicise her husband's arrest.
The officer has been suspended but not arrested.
A week before that, a married woman with two children in Karachi said she had been gang raped by four local men but a jirga prevented her from reporting the matter to the police.
Instead, the jirga members imposed a fine of 150,000 rupees ($2,500) on the accused. Even that money never reached her, she said.
Hurdles to justice
Apart from the alleged crime, what is common to these women are the problems they have had to confront in their quest for justice.
In the case of one woman from Karachi, the police refused to register a case of rape for over a month - during which time she says she was repeatedly threatened by her rapists.
President Pervez Musharraf President Musharraf's government says violence against women is a global problem By the time she managed to have the case registered, it was too late to conduct a medical examination on
RE:RE:Pakistan's problem with Rape
by mumbhai gets GRE one three two zero on May 15, 2008 02:44 AM Permalink
In most rape cases in Pakistan, the crime is established almost entirely on the basis of medical examination of the complainant.
Eventually, a case was registered but all the accused were awarded bail despite the fact that the woman identified her rapists before the judge. She eventually had to play what is known in Karachi as the "ethnic card".
She is a Mohajir - a name given to Urdu-speaking migrants from India at the time of partition - while her rapists were native Sindhis.
She went to the headquarters of the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM) - an influential Mohajir-dominated party - with her case.
It was only after intervention from the MQM's home minister in Sindh that the police launched a fresh hunt for the accused, three of whom had disappeared by then.
Two of them are still at large.
Going public
The case of the woman from Faisalabad is even more striking.
She barged into Pakistan's parliament wearing a veil similar to the ones worn by women representatives of religious parties.
She says she was hoping to find an MP who could help her.
Instead, she was returned to Faisalabad as a criminal who had caused a major security breach.
It was not until her story was given airtime by a private TV channel that the accused officer was suspended.
Mukhtar Mai after her Supreme Court ruling Mukhtar Mai's case which made international headlines is still pending Even then, while three separate inquiry committees were set up, a formal case has yet to be registered.
RE:RE:RE:Pakistan's problem with Rape
by mumbhai gets GRE one three two zero on May 15, 2008 02:44 AM Permalink
Her lawyer and rights activist Asma Jehangir has described the multiple inquiry committees as "an attempt to subvert justice".
'Strong policy'
For its part the government says its commitment to improving the lives of women is illustrated by their move to pass a law requiring one-third of elected members in all representative bodies - from the National Assembly to local governments - to be women.
In the Faisalabad case, too, it points to the immediate suspension of the accused police officer and simultaneous inquiries at the parliamentary, judicial and administrative levels.
Besides, the government argues, violence against women is worse in many other countries than in Pakistan.
Pakistan's minister for women's affairs, Nilofer Bakhtiar, says the fight for women's rights is making progress.
"We have a strong policy and programme here which the government is putting across very successfully to combat violence against women," she told the BBC.
Inspiration
But in reality little has been done about removing procedural difficulties - which means that rape victims must either rely on the media or non-governmental organisations to secure justice.
There is no institutional infrastructure in Pakistan to help rape victims, no trauma centres or legal aid bodies.
Rape in Pakistan became a high-profile crime after one of the victims, Mukhtar Mai, decided to speak out.
Ms Mai was gang raped allegedly on the orders of a tribal council as punishment for a sexual crime attributed to
RE:Pakistan's problem with Rape
by sunein on May 15, 2008 02:44 AM Permalink
: A woman is raped in the Indian capital every 24 hours and, in an overwhelming majority of cases registered by police in the last six months, the rapists were known to the victims.
These are among the startling findings of an extensive analysis of 2,359 rape cases registered by Delhi Police between early 1999 and June this year.
According to the study, till June 15 this year, 248 rapes were recorded in the city, marginally lower than the figures for the same period last year.
Police have solved 232 of the cases registered this year and arrested 330 men in connection with them, as some cases involved more than one attacker.
RE:RE:Pakistan's problem with Rape
by mumbhai gets GRE one three two zero on May 15, 2008 02:46 AM Permalink
In Islam rape is legalized !!! HAHAHAHAHA .... LOL no wonder many animals converted to ur sleazy religion in past centuries with ur pervert dad and nymph mom among them
Close on the heels of the killing of three girls allegedly to enforce a diktat on wearing burqa, militants beheaded another woman in Rajouri district of Jammu and Kashmir on Friday night, police said on Saturday.
Militants barged into the house of Jan Begum, 43, in Darhal area and beheaded her, they said. Militants have also warned women against attending schools or colleges and directed them to wear burqa.
According to villagers, posters by the Lashkar-e-Jabbar, an off-shoot of the Lashkar-e-Tayiba, had been appearing in educational institutions in Rajouri district for the past one week asking Muslim women and girls to wear burqas and strictly follow the purdah system.
Poonam was bundled into a waiting jeep on Thursday night and thrown into the Rajasthan canal by her father and six other male members of her Jat family because she wouldn't let go of Mukhram, a young Dalit boy. But the feisty 19-year-old survived drowning, in what would probably have been the umpteenth honour killing in Haryana, to fight back and charge her relatives with attempted murder. Among those accused are Poonam's father Prabhu Ram, her cousin Satbir, grandfather Jat Ram and four others. Sirsa SP Vikas Yadav, too, said prima facie it did seem like the girl's father tried to kill her. The case comes days after Subhash Chander, a Chicago resident, killed his daughter Monika, son-in-law Rajesh Jhamb and grandchild Vansh in their Oak Forest apartment because Monika married "below her caste."
Poonam was bundled into a waiting jeep on Thursday night and thrown into the Rajasthan canal by her father and six other male members of her Jat family because she wouldn't let go of Mukhram, a young Dalit boy. But the feisty 19-year-old survived drowning, in what would probably have been the umpteenth honour killing in Haryana, to fight back and charge her relatives with attempted murder. Among those accused are Poonam's father Prabhu Ram, her cousin Satbir, grandfather Jat Ram and four others. Sirsa SP Vikas Yadav, too, said prima facie it did seem like the girl's father tried to kill her. The case comes days after Subhash Chander, a Chicago resident, killed his daughter Monika, son-in-law Rajesh Jhamb and grandchild Vansh in their Oak Forest apartment because Monika married "below her caste."
CHANDIGARH: Poonam was bundled into a waiting jeep on Thursday night and thrown into the Rajasthan canal by her father and six other male members of her Jat family because she wouldn't let go of Mukhram, a young Dalit boy. But the feisty 19-year-old survived drowning, in what would probably have been the umpteenth honour killing in Haryana, to fight back and charge her relatives with attempted murder.
Presently at the Nari Niketan in Karnal, Poonam, a resident of Bani in Sirsa district, left home on September 18 last year on the pretext of taking some exam and married her lover. But on September 27 her parents got to know of it and brought her back by force. She was soon shifted to her relative's house in a village called Dhotad where family members tried unsuccessfully for three months to dissuade her from continuing her relationship with Mukhram. Their patience finally wore out on Thursday and around 10 pm she was thrown into the swirling canal, at a spot where the water was the deepest.
But only did she swam to safety, battling her way to the bank of the canal near Tibbi, a settlement on the Rajasthan border, but also approached the police to demand justice.
Confirming Poonam's story, SHO Anil Kumar said, "On Friday, a case was registered against the seven accused under sections 307 (attempt to murder), 364 (abduction with intention to kill) and 120-B (criminal conspiracy) of the IPC. All of them are absconding and we are looking for them."
RE:Hindu tolerance is so great I feel special being Hindu
by sunein on May 15, 2008 02:38 AM Permalink
Among those accused are Poonam's father Prabhu Ram, her cousin Satbir, grandfather Jat Ram and four others. Sirsa SP Vikas Yadav, too, said prima facie it did seem like the girl's father tried to kill her. The case comes days after Subhash Chander, a Chicago resident, killed his daughter Monika, son-in-law Rajesh Jhamb and grandchild Vansh in their Oak Forest apartment because Monika married "below her caste."
A group of British and American Muslims on pilgrimage to Mecca say they were illegally detained and brutally beaten by Saudi religious police.
The men, who suffered physical mistreatment as well as verbal abuse during their incarceration, claim they were arrested because they are Shia and Westerners. The Foreign Office is expected to raise the matter with the Saudi government although the authorities in the country say they have already started an investigation.
The eight men were among a group of 35 British and American nationals on a two-week visit to the holy cities of Mecca and Medina when they were arrested. They say the religious police, a powerful force in the Sunni kingdom, waded in after an argument developed between the group and a Sunni worshipper at a shrine. The men, now back in this country, claim the police repeatedly struck them with chair legs, sticks and heavy hand-held radios.
RE:Saudi police beat us up, say British Shia pilgrims
by sunein on May 15, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
Poonam was bundled into a waiting jeep on Thursday night and thrown into the Rajasthan canal by her father and six other male members of her Jat family because she wouldn't let go of Mukhram, a young Dalit boy. But the feisty 19-year-old survived drowning, in what would probably have been the umpteenth honour killing in Haryana, to fight back and charge her relatives with attempted murder.
Among those accused are Poonam's father Prabhu Ram, her cousin Satbir, grandfather Jat Ram and four others. Sirsa SP Vikas Yadav, too, said prima facie it did seem like the girl's father tried to kill her. The case comes days after Subhash Chander, a Chicago resident, killed his daughter Monika, son-in-law Rajesh Jhamb and grandchild Vansh in their Oak Forest apartment because Monika married "below her caste."
I admit that my Hindu religion which I love has faults...so I dont blame others. For example, my Daddy told me SriKrishna was God. The I read Geeta. SriKrishna asking Arjuna to murder in cold blood his own GrandFather Bheeshma, his KulGuru Kripacharya and his dear teacher DronaCharya by doing cheating like shooting arrows after the evening time has passed. Then with no guilt of cheating in the timings our Hero went dancing in the village coolly with his gopikas and line maroing Draupadi who i must say was good-looking.
RE:I admit our faults
by Allah on May 15, 2008 02:37 AM Permalink
that shows the difference between you and your father. everyone understands according to ones capacity. i dont know your fathers capacity , since he has given birth to a nincompoop like you, may be he was following religion blindly, but you surely are even worse.
RE:RE:I admit our faults
by sunein on May 15, 2008 02:42 AM Permalink
swamiiiii....this is greatttt. Jai SHree Raam.
Poonam was bundled into a waiting jeep on Thursday night and thrown into the Rajasthan canal by her father and six other male members of her Jat family because she wouldn't let go of Mukhram, a young Dalit boy. But the feisty 19-year-old survived drowning, in what would probably have been the umpteenth honour killing in Haryana, to fight back and charge her relatives with attempted murder. Among those accused are Poonam's father Prabhu Ram, her cousin Satbir, grandfather Jat Ram and four others. Sirsa SP Vikas Yadav, too, said prima facie it did seem like the girl's father tried to kill her. The case comes days after Subhash Chander, a Chicago resident, killed his daughter Monika, son-in-law Rajesh Jhamb and grandchild Vansh in their Oak Forest apartment because Monika married "below her caste."
