the HC direction to TN Govt is welcome. While i am of the opinion that 69% reservations for the backward has not affected the quality of professional and technical education in any way, more seats in institutions is a necessity `coz all eligible aspirants dont get seats in disciplines of their choice due to insufficient seat availability. Let all those who desire higher education in disciplines of their choice get seats, do their best and become national human assets. Only, while increasing the seat numbers, care must be taken so that quality of imparting professional knowledge do not suffer. Better compensation to teaching staff could be an answer as it will attract and retain them in the profession instead of looking for greener pastures! As for infrastructure all professional colleges should have enough of funds to create it, with all the capitation money they receive on admission to the management quota seats!
under the guise of reservations, aetheists like Karunanidhi and so called champions of the down trodden are trying to make life miserable for the so called upper castes. All what a idiot like Karunanidhi has to do is to explain all the riches accumalated by his family over the years and also his goon sons who get away with murder!!
cauz, if a person deserves a seat, he/she has to be given and should not be denied on the basis of someother non-sense. SC comes to the rescue of those who deserve what they need. Thanks Supreme Court!!
RE:I hail the SC order
by dinesh kumar on May 13, 2008 04:49 PM Permalink
when there is a shortage of food,can a obese landlord ask for his normal quota of food. he has to adjust with the rationing of the available food. he might resort to tricks like he is the custodian of the temple and that his ancestors built the temple and various other similar things. but when food is short,it will be rationed. many people who were earlier hungry,are now getting their rations after democracy started in our country. some people have been pretending for a long time that they have some special gene which gives them extra merit.
RE:I hail the SC order
by vox populi on May 13, 2008 05:57 PM Permalink
ours was always a democracy--it is because of "extra gene & merit" that others are clamouring for reservations!!!
RE:I hail the SC order
by dinesh kumar on May 13, 2008 08:07 PM Permalink
in that case ,these people with extra gene and merit should not be complaining at all about reservations. they have been stripped of their pretensions which has resulted in the situation where they are opposing everything vehemently.
The following is the text of a letter Pandit Nehru wrote to chief ministers on June 27, 1961, emphasising on the need for empowering backward groups by giving them access to good and technical education, and not by reserving jobs based on caste and creed:
%u201CI have referred above to efficiency and to our getting out of our traditional ruts. This necessitates our getting out of the old habit of reservations and particular privileges being given to this caste or that group. The recent meeting we held here, at which the chief ministers were present, to consider national integration, laid down that help should be given on economic considerations and not on caste.
RE:Nehru's views on reservation, Arjun Singh are u listening
by Neo Intellectual on May 13, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
Contd............. It is true that we are tied up with certain rules and conventions about helping Scheduled Castes and Tribes. They deserve help but, even so, I dislike any kind of reservation, more particularly in service. I react strongly against anything which leads to inefficiency and second-rate standards. I want my country to be a first class country in everything. The moment we encourage the second-rate, we are lost. But if we go in for reservations on communal and caste basis, we swamp the bright and able people and remain second-rate or third-rate. I am grieved to learn of how far this business of reservation has gone based on communal consideration.
It has amazed me to learn that even promotions are based sometimes on communal and caste considerations. This way lies not only folly, but disaster. Let%u2019s help the backward groups by all means, but never at the cost of efficiency. How are we going to build our public sector or indeed any sector with second-rate people?
(Jawaharlal Nehru, Letters to chief ministers 1947-1964, Volume 5, Oxford University Press, 1989, PP 456-7)
RE:RE:Nehru's views on reservation, Arjun Singh are u listening
by Neo Intellectual on May 13, 2008 04:41 PM Permalink
If Nehru was grieved way back in 1961 for how the whole business of reservation had gone, how would he have reacted in 2008??
I AM SURE HE WILL BE TURNING IN HIS GRAVE SO MUCH THAT IF WE BUILD A DYNAMO AROUND HIM, WE'LL SOLVE THE COUNTRY'S ELECTRICITY PROBLEM..........LOL
Pkl. Afternoon, 4pm, Tuesday, 13th May, 2008 D. Goel. It is important that any modern society needs highly qualified graduates from any number of highly specialized Schools and Institutes that provide skills and opportunities to enable the best school-leavers with promise to reach the sky of excellence! No society can in our post -Industrial Age could hope to survive Global competition if it allows sordid handicapped youth to pass out of these hyper -cost in effec high -pressure training and research centres. Coming ourt as half -baked graduates is neither good for any field job nor extend unexplored horizons of newer capabilities in their specialized fields lacking very definite interests... To invoke names such as those of Ambedkar Sahib and Gandhiji for this mealy -mouthed Reservations in technical areas is to ask for playing and imposing fetters on the future work -force of our country.We certainly need social inclusiveness in higher education but not at the cost of excellence ,itself.We can if necessary open special compensatory courses , coaching and accretion of basic capabilities among disadvantaged and state scholarships to poor and socially repressed segments of our very iniquitous society.But it is wrong to turn out oodles of worthless and non-achieving graduates who are waste of our slender resources , as well as their own youth.We must honestly find out what the poor and the Dalits need, we must educate them in their mother tongue by specialist in G
You can%u2019t improve the beggar%u2019s life by helping them with money; it will increase the number of beggars. In the same way don%u2019t give quota to lower caste people thinking you are helping them. The forward caste people are improving much faster than others because of this simple logic.
Adi Sankarar the Hindu priest created Manu Shastra which divided humans based on their profession. The learning class - brahmins, the business class, farmers -vyasas, animal care, cleaning, cutting hair, washing, cremation - shudras, Warfare - Kshaktriyas
Earlier people chose their profession depending on their interests. A Brahmin's son can never become a brahmin and wise versa. Later it became by birth. We should throw this manu shashtra away from our system.
The only way to do this is my encouraging our children to different communities or languages. For better crops, or better animals we do cross-beeding for better yield. But for humans we believe in marrying only from the same caste, sub-caste & creed. If we believe in human love and equality throw away the sacred thread and manu shastra. Reservation will eventually die and i want that to happen.
RE:Throw away the manu shastra
by Mayur Aandi on May 13, 2008 05:31 PM Permalink
You are exposing your ignorance and foolishness. It was manu who created Manusmrithi. What else can one expect from an idiot like you? You said that you have never been benifitted by reservation. Let me tell you why- reservation is for uplifting the deserving candidates among the backward class who have been denied a fair share of opportunity to compete. It looks like you are so stupid, not even reservation can help you- thats why.
At some point of time, the entire india will be filled with doctors and engineers. It seems like government are more poised towards creating employment rather than creating variant talents. There are so many courses available that aren't well advertised or not developed compared to medicine and engineering. Tamilnadu already has more than 250 engineering colleges and in reality only meagre percentage of outcoming students gets jobs. Increasing the engineering seats will increase the number of engineering students which directly affects the employment. That too with US recession nearing us, I'm damn sure that entire IT industry gonna get hit which gonna make the situation much worse. As usual lets wait and see
