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CPI supported 2 Nation theory, Muslim separatism prior to 1947
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:51 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


CPI supported 2 Nation theory, Muslim separatism prior to 1947.

As far as Hindus however, they believed it was multimation theory- along caste and language.

THUS FROM VERY BEGINNING OF CPI/M, THEY TRIED TO RALLY MUSLIMS RELIGIOUSLY AND DIVIDE HINDUS ALONG CASTE AND LANGUAGE.

That's why with rise of BJP, their apple cart is over turned - as Hindus are now uniting.

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RE:CPI supported 2 Nation theory, Muslim separatism prior to 1947
by satyarthi on Mar 29, 2008 11:06 PM  Permalink
On Kerala govt's official web site in demogaphic section, the term 'hindu' is deliberately avoided. Whiel muslim and christan identities are highlighted with a positive note.

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RE:CPI supported 2 Nation theory, Muslim separatism prior to 1947
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 11:07 PM  Permalink

Same old principle: rally minorities religiously, and divide Hindus.

However, with rise of pan-indian Islamic identity, hindu identity is going to grow.

This is where they are failing miserably- more so in future/

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RE:CPI supported 2 Nation theory, Muslim separatism prior to 1947
by Tathagatha mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 11:26 PM  Permalink
Soon There will we new era with BJP in Power.
This Pseudos will die there death.

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RE:CPI supported 2 Nation theory, Muslim separatism prior to 1947
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:53 PM  Permalink

see the disastrous effect: CPI treated a (say) Tamil and Bengali speaking Muslim as Muslim- thus creating a pan-indian Muslim political identity!

No wonder, as Muslim identity grows and demands more and more political rights, Hindu identity is going to grow phenomenally.

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CPI wrote Mualim League's 1946 election manifesto which created Pakistan
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:49 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


However, after Pakistan was created, commies were ruthlessly purged from Islamic state of Pakistan.


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RE:CPI wrote Mualim League's 1946 election manifesto which created Pakistan
by satyarthi on Mar 29, 2008 11:36 PM  Permalink
And there is nothing like Communist Party of Pakistan (CPP).

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RE:CPI wrote Mualim League's 1946 election manifesto which created Pakistan
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 11:59 PM  Permalink

exactly. Traditionally Commies have been strong in areas of eastern west bengal, weastern bangladesh where they did Tebhaga Movement.

Now, Commies are killed and non existant in Bangladesh.

This was done by Jehadis, islamists.

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CPIM abuses Rama
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:43 PM  Permalink 


CPIM abuses Rama. But keeps mum on events related with Muhamud, or Jesus's life.

This blatant anti-hindu posture has crossed all limit.

Secularism does not mean selective abuse of religion.

PEOPLE WILL PHYSICALLY SETTLE SCORE WITH CPIM, IF THEY UTTER SINGLE WORD AGAINST RAMA IN FUTURE, IF NOT ALREADY.

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Had there been no BJP, CPIM leaders would have faced what Najibullah faced at the hands of Taliban
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:35 PM  Permalink 


CPIM would have faced what Najibullah faced at the hands of talibans- that is eyes goused out, private parts chopped off and hanging from lamp post at the hands of mullahs- HAD THERE BEEN NO BJP.

Its a strong BJP presence, backlash from Hindus, which is stopping Jehadis going all the way out and enforce Shahria in India.


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CPIM's double standard
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:28 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


1. CPIM actively supported Maoists in Nepal, a sovreign Country, to topple existing Govt.

2. CPIM actively supports ruthless purge of Tibetian budhists and their religious persecurition in Tibet.

3. CPIM never uttered a on persecution of Malaysian Hindus.

4. CPIM never uttered a word against growing jehad, wholesale purge of minorities in Bangladesh, just across the WB border.

End of the day, CPIM's double standard is exposed. They NEVER uttere a word when Hindus, Buddhists are persecuted.

But goes all the way to support Palestinian terrorists.

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RE:Commies are the worst Traitors of India - K K saha devan wher are you ???
by satyarthi on Mar 29, 2008 10:30 PM  Permalink
The left man "K K saha devan" became famous it seems.

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RE:Commies are the worst Traitors of India - K K saha devan wher are you ???
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:32 PM  Permalink

KK is also a victim of Soviet propaganda.
His son/grandson will join BJP.

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RE:Commies are the worst Traitors of India - K K saha devan wher are you ???
by satyarthi on Mar 29, 2008 10:34 PM  Permalink
Noted.

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This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:11 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


Ask him, he will narrate how all problems were solved in USSR. But as it turned out, USSR collapsed due to incoherencies of its own weigth.

All communist leaders in India are from a generation prior to USSR collapse. They were victims of Soviet propaganda.

Communists believe in internationalism much like Ummah of Islamists.

They are worst kind of anti-Hindu, as well as pro-jehadi.

As Meghnad Desai recently said, after NANDIGRAM and surrender to Islamists on Taslima issue, CPIM has no future in India.

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RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by Nirpinder Singh on Mar 29, 2008 10:19 PM  Permalink
You are not following the line of argument of the article. In states where they are not in power (this has nothing to do with the erstwhile USSR) the ground level Communist
Workers are able to do good work. I know from personal experience that communist party members are the only ones (again in states where they are not in power) who are willing to help deserving persons irrespective of the ability of the supplicant to pay. They are also the only ones that do not advocate giving of bribes and the only ones that are respected by official agencies for this reason.

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RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by satyarthi on Mar 29, 2008 10:28 PM  Permalink
Cadre of RSS or Gandhians at grasroot level are equally idealist. It is the policy of the party and not well-intended individuals are real issue.

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RE:RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by Nirpinder Singh on Mar 29, 2008 11:08 PM  Permalink
Nop!. It is not about the policy of the party but about well intentioned individuals. It is individuals that make a difference. Parties never do. Marx and Lenin were much above the Communist Party. Gandhiji as an individual was also much above the Congress Party. Now all parties even the Communists would like to claim him as one of their own. There are numerous such examples at the grassroots. Committed people who work without getting noticed.

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RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by sanjay arun kumar on Mar 29, 2008 11:47 PM  Permalink
Policy gives direction. A well intended person can go upto a certain level only. Beyond that it is the policy which projects him. There are many gandhis in India, but we remember only the Gandhi who opposed British politically.

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RE:RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by sudipta kirans sarkar on Mar 29, 2008 10:37 PM  Permalink
Cut the Crap, Mr.Singh!!! Communists belonging to the original communist movement had reasons and was quite a logical political view. Thats why there was worldwide leftist movements starting from Russia, China and many countries across the world. But today, communism has been proved as nothing but a hipocratic piece of shit. Everyone in today's world wants to have s share of wealth and prosperity and thats why the communist philosophy no longer remains valid. Almost all political people are power hungry and scrounges for political gain and so are these commies who claim to help deserving people, deal with caste issues and all. Let me tell you , Brahmin and other upper cast Left Front politicians and followers in West Bengal look for upper caste grooms and brides only for their children. All are hipocrits. Did u get that!!! Your personal experience may be an isolated case or may be you are a Leftist

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RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by Nirpinder Singh on Mar 29, 2008 11:04 PM  Permalink
No I fail to see your point. The article is about states where the Communists are not in power. You seem to be unable to get away from your fascination with Bengal where the Communists are in power and have developed nefarious means to maintain power. Bengal Communists are thugs. Talk about Communist Party Members in Punjab Haryana (as in this article) Rajasthan Gujarat etc. There are plenty of good people in these states that are doing good work but who do not get noticed since they are not close to the corridors of power.

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RE:This dumb Professor became victim of Sovient Propaganda
by Pervez Musharraf on Mar 29, 2008 10:14 PM  Permalink
rigtly said

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If CPIM were so against caste, why its supporting Mulayam, Lalu?
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 09:59 PM  Permalink 

CPIM is most casteist party in India.

Ram Guha has commented its the COMMUNIST (historians) MADE CASTE CENTRAL AXIS OF INDIAN HISTORY.

They play caste politics in Kerala, support casteists like Lalu, Mulayam.

CPIM MADE CASTE CENTRAL AXIS TO INDIAN HISTORY, AND GOT DECIMATED BECAUSE OF IT IN HINDI HEARTLAND!

Its called sweet justice!

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Commies have killed more people than Hitler ...
by John Corniche on Mar 29, 2008 08:47 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Communist ideology has killed more people tha other ideology ... even more than Bin Laden.

Stalin alone has killed more than 2 million of his own countrymen. He killed his own good friend & fellow Commie "Trotsky".

So, whats the Communism stands for ?

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RE:Commies have killed more people than Hitler ...
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:14 PM  Permalink

2 Million is small amount for stalin.

Mao, STalin killed together 100 million in last 100 years.

Read "Black book of communism" by Harvard University Press.

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Those who are poor are paid more by the party
by on Mar 29, 2008 08:30 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

That is as dumb a professor of Economics can get. The commies pay more to people who can get them more votes. And btw, the commies always want poverty and wretchedness to flourish in this country. Only then will they be able to bring their cherished revolution. And cement their grip on power for life.

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RE:Those who are poor are paid more by the party
by John Corniche on Mar 29, 2008 08:43 PM  Permalink
exactly ... you are bang on target !!

Commies want that way. They want distibute everything ... thats free in the state. They want to distribute land, distribute wealth, distribute rations, bread & water.

But Commies have no idea about how to create wealth. If today there are more industries, then there will be more employment & more workers.

If Tatas & Ambhanis create wealth, then 1000s will get the opportunities. But if you oppose these free-market forces, then people will cut each other's throats for the same loaf of bread.

Look at WB & Kerala. Both have a high %age of population with good education and most of them migrate to other states. Why ... becoz of the Commies & their policies.

Last year I was there in Trivendrum on tour when Saddam was hanged in Iraq. I was surprised that ruling party gave a call for "strike shutting down the whole city".

Tell me an instance where the govt of the day calls for shutting down of the state !! That too for some dictator who has no relevance with Indians ?

All this to please the minorities ? Even the people in gulf countries did not take to streets & shouted slogans like these Kerala Commies.

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RE:Those who are poor are paid more by the party
by Nirpinder Singh on Mar 29, 2008 10:21 PM  Permalink
No they do not. You are wrong. As the writer has said in states where they are not in power the communists do good work. They do not pay for votes but rely on their well deserved goodwill during elections which is precisely why they do not get power. Here is one instance where the Professor is right and you are wrong.

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RE:Those who are poor are paid more by the party
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 29, 2008 10:40 PM  Permalink

CPIM has np presence outside WB, Kerala. Its more media presence, than in reality.

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