RE:hmmm
by Pop Head on Mar 27, 2008 03:53 PM Permalink
Not true. The difference in public response to Varun and Rahul is all to see though they share the same heritage. Though Sanjay Gandhi was unpopular, Rajiv was popular. A pedigree gives offspring an advantage but it depends on their conduct to gain acceptability with the public. The manner the public go ecastic over Rahul suggests he has wide public acceptability.
RE:hmmm
by Mahavir on Mar 27, 2008 05:16 PM Permalink
poop Head, there was no impact on Gujarat elections of Rahul's visit. Peoeple had come out in good number to see him, not necessarily approved him as a leader - just like people come out to see a navtanki.
RE:hmmm
by democrat on Mar 27, 2008 05:29 PM Permalink
Gujurat is Gujurat. Modi got rapicious receptions in UP, Maharastra, West Bengal etc still no impact on votes.
This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv being a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze, was Feroze Khan before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wishes.
Feroze's mother's family name was Ghandy, often associated with Parsis and this was changed to Gandhi, sometime before his wedding with Indira, by an affidavit. The fact of the matter is that (and this fact can be found in many writings) Indira was very lonely. Chased out of the Shantiniketan University by Guru Dev Rabindranath himself for misdemeanour, the lonely girl was all by herself, while father Jawaharlal was busy with politics, pretty women and illicit sex, the mother was in hospital. Feroze Khan, the grocer's son was then in England and he was quite sympathetic to Indira and soon enough she changed her religion, became a Muslim woman and married Feroze Khan in a London mosque. Nehru was not happy, Kamala was dead already or dying. The news of this marriage eventually reached Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi (better known as Mahatma Gandhi) . Gandhi urgently called Nehru and practically ordered him to ask the young man to change his name from Khan to Gandhi. It had nothing to do with change of religion, from Islam to Hinduism for instance. It was just a case of a change of name by an affidavit. And so Feroze Khan became Feroze Gandhi.
The surprising thing is that the apostle of truth, the old man soon to be declared India's Mahatma and the 'F
RE:VERY INTERESTING HISTORY
by Loan Shark on Mar 27, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
Indira Gandhi kicked the paki butt in 1971 and then proceeded to break them into two in 1972 - now bowing to any pressure from US ... and using Russia to her advantage - a political shrewd to govern India through the 70s
what Indira Gandhi achieved was distinct ... by breaking pakistan she halvedtheir fire power and eliminated the possibility of being attacked from east and west at the same time
RE:VERY INTERESTING HISTORY
by rahul mathur on Mar 27, 2008 03:39 PM Permalink
Just because of Indira, India lost the advantage taken by Indian Jawans and now we are facing problems from both the sides
RE:VERY INTERESTING HISTORY
by Pop Head on Mar 27, 2008 03:47 PM Permalink
Not Indira. The Gujus, Sindhis and Marwaris flooded post war Bangla Desh and started to exploit Bangla Deshis and squandered the goodwill of the India nation. At least they did not react as strong as Uganda did to Guju exploitation in the 80's and now in Kenya.
RE:VERY INTERESTING HISTORY
by james ap on Mar 27, 2008 03:35 PM Permalink
Can someone tell me why Petrolum companies are giving ads?. Only vehicles owners can purchase their products and not by cycleman. If there is any change in rates, we can understand this ads. all are Government undertaking establishments and spending crors for ads. If these companies can stop giving ads, defenitely, petrolium prices can be reduced by 20 to 25 % from the present rates. No one sees such problems.
RE:VERY INTERESTING HISTORY
by on Mar 27, 2008 03:41 PM Permalink
because of name nobody can become politician. and stop who is good or bad. Who has knowledage and experience. And will to do something for nation. Not just want to become PM because he has surname Gandhi. We indian are emotional fool... u can see discussion below... u got clear picture
If I have political power, first I will do one thing. I will ban or stop $Rediff.com$ because these peoples are very loyal to Duplicate &Gandhis$. what is the Rediff interest in duplicate @Gandhi@ family.
At the very beginning of his book, 'The Nehru Dynasty', astrologer K.N. Rao mentions the names of Jawaharlal's father and grandfather.
Jawaharlal's father was believed to be Motilal and Motilal's father was one Gangadhar Nehru.
We all know that Jawaharlal's only daughter was Indira Priyadarshini Nehru; Kamala Nehru was her mother, who died in Switzerland of tuberculosis. She was totally against Indira's proposed marriage with Feroze. Why? No one tells us that!
Now, who is this Feroze? We are told by many that he was the son of the family grocer. The grocer supplied wines, etc. to Anand Bhavan (previously known as Ishrat Manzil)
What was the family grocer's name?
One frequently hears that Rajiv Gandhi's grandfather was Pandit Nehru. But then we all know that everyone has two grandfathers, the paternal and the maternal grandfathers.
In fact, the paternal grandfather is deemed to be the more important grandfather in most societies.
Why is it then, nowhere, we find Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather's name? It appears that the reason is simply. Rajiv Gandhi's paternal grandfather was a Muslim gentleman from the Junagadh area of Gujarat.
This Muslim grocer by the name of Nawab Khan, had married a Parsi woman after converting her to Islam.
This is the source where from the myth of Rajiv being a Parsi was derived. Rajiv's father Feroze, was Feroze Khan before he married Indira, against Kamala Nehru's wi
RE:Very Interesting History
by Loan Shark on Mar 27, 2008 03:30 PM Permalink
so, rahul gandhi has muslim, parsi, hindu, christian bloodline - a live example of national integration!
RE:Very Interesting History
by Loan Shark on Mar 27, 2008 03:28 PM Permalink
what has all this got to do with Sonia Gandhi or Rahul Gandhi? just evaluate them as persons and not who their parents, grand parents and great grand parents were ... and the argument that paternal grand father is more important?
what if your great-grand father was a criminal? would you automatically be a criminal? would einstien's grand son be just as intelligent as him?
RE:Very Interesting History
by Pop Head on Mar 27, 2008 03:37 PM Permalink
Dip's fiction was just to link Nehru-Gandhi with a Muslim background. The source would be some obscure historian presumably with RSS links
RE:Very Interesting History
by rahul mathur on Mar 27, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
ok mr, loan you atleast agreed that rahul ghandi great-great father were criminals
having gandhi as surname defntly helps..imagine if hes had nehru as surname, he wd have gone after laura bush or hillary clinton like his great grand chacha nehru, who was after mountbattens wife..
