RE:terrorists
by adi shankara on Mar 24, 2008 06:54 PM Permalink
That is what we want everybody to know. Terrorist has no religion. Saving an innocent is more important than anything else. Pls. don't malign religion. Terrorist in all religion/country/area/caste etc. we must not blam all for some people's mistake. We must see our own people also b it Maoist, Bodo, LTTE, bajrangis etc. Does it mean all Hindus r terrorist and Hinduism is terrorism. Lets think again and again, Do not paint all in the same brush. Why all terrorist r Muslims? Because we don%u2019t call our terrorist as Hindu terrorist rather we call them BODO, LTTE, MAOIST
Mr Younis, i am a hindu, presenly in Bahrain (a muslim country) & if i see even a PAKI, he is our friend by location. more than 10 muslim people work for me & i report to christian & we never bother who has which religion. come on friend. every religion is great & do not hurt any people who has his belief in any religion
RE:Younis
by Ali boy on Mar 24, 2008 06:30 PM Permalink
Mr.Bansal i appreciate it that you atleast understand what communal harmony means.You see a muslims has and must present the faith of Islam no matter in any circumstances.It must be presented in a form which doesnt hurt the sentiments of other faiths directly.But again the quran asks for coming on common terms between Islam and other faiths so that there can be a dialouge. If you dont accept what Islam preaches that the quran also asks muslims to convey....1. Say : O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship,
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.
In all a muslim is abided by God Almighty to preach his faith...it is very sad some muslims take it otherwise and resort to voilence but that can happen in other communities also directly or indirectly...there is no justification for that.
RE:RE:Younis
by JGN on Mar 24, 2008 07:12 PM Permalink
Dear Ali boy, the Quran contains contradictory verses. While good muslims quote the verses you mentioned above, the Mullahs ask the impressionable youngsters to "kill the non-believers where ever they are found and also "to fight till the religion is for Allah" and such hate-filled verses.
I have been posting messages on various discussion boards and know for sure what sort of messages are posted by the religious zealots (the messages of some muslims are enough to provocate even an irreligious athiest like me). So the muslims accusing others are abusing their religion is like pot calling kettle black.
RE:Younis
by Maqsad Jamal on Mar 24, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
@JGN You are quoting those verses out of context. You never tried to read the before and after verses. I also started thinking like you after reading Mr. Arun Shourie write up. But when I tried to find myself I found it was quoted by Mr. Shourie out of context. Krishna tells Pandavs to kill their brothers. How come a god ask a brother to kill his own brothers? Before writing or quoting just think for a while and try to find out yourself and if not then ask a person who is knowledgeable in that topics.
RE:Younis
by JGN on Mar 24, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
Maqsad Jamal, even the para quoted by you are not your own. They are taken from Dr. Zakir Naik's website. There is no proof for the existence of god/gods of any religion (out of 2000 odd religions the world over).
RE:Younis
by JGN on Mar 24, 2008 10:52 PM Permalink
Maqsad Jamal, who are you trying to fool? Do you mean that you have not read The Quran before reading the book written by Arun Shourie (I have not written what he has written).
You are using Mullah logic. Mahabharata is an epic (story) and no sane hindu will tell you that it is an irrefutable revealation of some "all powerful almighty" to be followed by all till eternity.
Also some abusrd belifs of the hindus do not make them "gospel truths!
All religious fanatics (irrespective of religon) are in the same boat. So one accusing the other is just like pot calling the kettle black.
RE:Younis
by Peace and Humanity on Mar 24, 2008 07:31 PM Permalink
Boss..it's been told 1000 times to u that analyze Quaranic verses with the time it was revealed....A verse which is revealed during war time would definitely contain suggestions over war.....have u read Baghvatgita ever???? If I take out the verses in which Krishna advices Arjun to kill his enemies and say "Hinduism is advicing hindus to kill the opponents"....so try to understand.....u r talking like an innocent lamb, we have seen 100's of ur messages abusing Islam and Islam alone....u still pretend u r an atheist...Atheist knows very well about the connection between modern science and qur'an, if u want i wl send a coopy to u.Give me ur mail id.
RE:RE:Younis
by JGN on Mar 24, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
There is no connection between modern science and Quran. don't try to fool people with some absurd explanations like that of Dr. Zakir Naik.
RE:Younis
by Maqsad Jamal on Mar 24, 2008 07:38 PM Permalink
To All Islam and Muslims Haters
Let me tell you one thing the more you hate and spread lie about Islam and Muslims. It brings muslims more close to their Islam. I have to various anti-islamic forums and webbsite. The more I read hate messages, abrupt question the more I try to find about Islam and it brings me close to my religions. Last 14 years Islam has survived the crusade from all quarters and it will survive till the end of the world. Btw don't forget with all the negative propaganda....Islam is growing many folds specially after 9/11. So you can carry on your hate while we grow.
RE:Younis
by Topno on Mar 24, 2008 07:46 PM Permalink
The fact is, Muslims hate non-muslims more than any other religion.
Muslims have always killed and fought with other religion people to live separately. Example creation of Pakistan, in Jammu & Kashmir, in Palestine etc. In muslim dominated countries they torture non-muslims.
Islam has caused more death and destruction than any deaseas or natural calamities.
RE:RE:Younis
by JGN on Mar 24, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
Maqsad Jamal, you have mentioned: "The more I read hate messages, abrupt question the more I try to find about Islam and it brings me close to my religions...........who are you trying to frighten with such statements? We really do not care whether your religion is growing or not (for that matter, we do not care for any religion)!
RE:RE:Younis
by abdulla on Mar 24, 2008 07:55 PM Permalink
Who cares if you are dawn more towards islam? who gives a flying eff about your opinions? what makes you think anyone is bothered ? even the cousin that you married doesnt give a hoot about your opinions ,when you grow please make sure you have enough to provide for your offsprings, i dont want my tax money to go into feeding mindlessly breeding sickos like you
RE:Younis
by B.D.Bansal on Mar 24, 2008 06:25 PM Permalink
Mr. younis, you are still hurting Hindus by calling dogs. if a policeman name XYZ IS A PROBLEM IT IS NOT ALL HINDU'S. ONLY THAT SPECIFIC PERSON IS THE PROBLEM. PLEASE CHOOSE YOUR WORD CAREFULLY DO NOT HURT ANYBODY OF OTHER RELIGION WHAT SOEVER RELIGION IT IS. HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY POINT.
RE:Younis
by Peace and Humanity on Mar 24, 2008 06:30 PM Permalink
Have u tried to make hindu friends "Understanding ur point"???...Please advice them also...Younus was politely replying abuses over Islam....he's also an instigated victim by Hindu abusers
RE:Younis
by Peace and Humanity on Mar 24, 2008 06:48 PM Permalink
Rajesh wearing a mask and hiding his true identity......he is talking about judgemental....he went to the extreme of abusing Islam and Muslims yesterday....living in US and paying 25 lakhs tax money to INdia(god knows)...studied in Indian money and earning US dollars....got the PR..and never come back to India....boss stop abusing Islam first...
RE:RE:Younis
by B.D.Bansal on Mar 24, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
OK we can convey our message by polite. respect the other religion. i am the strong beliver.
RE:Younis
by Peace and Humanity on Mar 24, 2008 06:23 PM Permalink
Yes Mr.Bansal...the abusing is started by Hindu friends....i think u r new for rediff discussion board..i have been following Hindu brothers who have been repeatedly abusing Islam and our prophet.....these kind of abusing nstigates me to abuse Hinduism and their stories..otherwise I dnt even think of abusing Hinduism and Hindu friends
RE:Younis
by Frelancer on Mar 24, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
younus Bhai Leave this Nut rajesh khanna no use of aruguing with this sort of nipples who has egoistic problem,,,,,
RE:RE:Younis
by B.D.Bansal on Mar 24, 2008 06:29 PM Permalink
if somebody is crying on road, do you see first he belong to which religion & then help. for me, i shall not. i shall try what help i can provide ir-respective of religion, caste, language, geography, colour, etc etc. come on friend. every religion is equal. let us leave it behind in 20th century & pray for goodness to humanity
RE:pakistan
by adi shankara on Mar 24, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
by Rajesh Khanna on Mar 24, 2008 05:33 PM | Hide replies
india will become minefield for these pakis, if sarabjit is hanged
by Rajesh Khanna on Mar 24, 2008 05:50 PM ITS NOT MY STUPIDITY, ITS YOUR GULLIBILITY SPEAKING ! INDIA RELEASED 92,000 PRISONERS OF WAR AFTER SHIMLA PACT PAKISTAN MUTILATED THE BODIES OF OUR JAWANS LIKE SAURABH KALIA IN KARGIL WAR
U THINK, SAVING 1 LIFE OF OUR DEAR BROTHER SARABJIT WILL BE ENUFF ?
by adi shankara on Mar 24, 2008 06:19 PM So one life saving is not enough, u want him to die! Oh pakistani Govt. Pls. hang Srajeet. Aur Rajsh knanna tumhe jo ukhadna hai ukhad lo.
WHY DONT YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT THIS SHIT IS ALL BECAUSE BURNEY IS A MUSHARRAF KINGS PARTY MAN WHO IS LEAVING HIS SEAT NOW. WHILE GOING OUT HE IS PUTTING UNDUE PRESSURE ON NEW GOVERNMENT IN TAKING OUT THIS OLD CASE.
RE:what a view
by Nirpinder Singh on Mar 24, 2008 06:25 PM Permalink
Yes but he is sending the right message to the Government of his nation and to India.
Are tum log cock fight kyun kar rahe ho. Both of us know what we have achived (Atomic Weapons) and can finish each other in no time, then what we r waiting for. Religion too is here to stay. So pls. don't waste time either let us finish us. Readers pls do some thing else me too leaving, if possible pls. pray and save Sarabjeet if its a MISTAKEN IDENTITY, without puting religious fire, we have enough alreday