RE:Indian cowardice
by Fried Yakov on Mar 23, 2008 10:06 PM Permalink
Shame on the spineless UPA. The Indian government should make it clear to the Chinese that unless they declare Sikkim, J& K, and Arunachal to be integral parts of India with no further contradictory statements by the Chinese, and stop supporting the anti- India activities of the Pakis, and hand over Aksahi Chin to India, China cannot take India's support for Tibet as granted.
RE:RE:Indian cowardice
by kedem kemorah on Mar 24, 2008 12:21 AM Permalink
Well said. Indians are very poor at politics & that is why we fail to score at every international fora whenever India's interests are involved. Pakistanis are far better at it, leave alone China. Our politicians are only good at scoring brownie points against each other within India. The moment they step outside the country, they make a fool of themselves, whether it is the Shimla Agreement or the Agra Summit.Why can't we clearly state that what is happening in Tibet is gross infringement of Human Rights by a totalitarian regime? China keeps harping on this to keep us out. It does not compare with Kashmir as it has always been a part of India before the Muslims came to India and made their religion the sole arbiter for seperating the original people of India. The Partition is incomplete without 100 percent population exchange. The same is not the case with Tibet which the expansionist and imperialist China has suo moto annexed. If Tibet was an integral part of China as the Chinese claim, then why resettle the plains Han Chinese in Tibet for upsetting the demographics by making the Tibetans a minority? Obviously, like the Xingian regions of the extreme West which is dominated by the non-Chinese Uighurs, Tibetan culture is far removed from the post-Mao Chinese one. After the Evil Empire had broken up in the 1990s, the biggest menace the world faces today is the Yellow Peril. The rest of world in general and India in particular will ignore this latest danger at its own peril !!
What can we expect from govt on the Commie crutches.We only can get these kind of spineless responses , when some there is a need to give something back to these chinese immorals for looking to gobble up territories not even closer to them demographically, culturally.
By the way we haven't heard any thing from any of the Indian commies crows about this human tragedy or is it that this is their standard practice of getting non follwowers out of the way by way mass repression.
China needs Tibet for 1. Source of all river waters (a scare commodity in the future). If it can build a railway to Tibet for political reasons not economic as Jiang Zemin said, it is a matter of time before it diverts the Tibetan glacier waters to save 300 million Chinese in proper chinese provinces from drought and starvation. 2. To test nuclear weapons and experiment their radiation effects on Tibetan people. Also unconfirmed reports of uraniam discovery have been made. 3. To next claim Arunachal and othe regions in Uttaranchal and Assam as extensions of Tibet (like a cancerous cell) in seacrh of oil, gas and minerals in N.E. India.
China wants Xinjiang for 1. Oil, gas and other resources in the region and near the Central Asisan republics. Build pipelines from these regions for its growing oil needs.
I hate commies, but I admire the Chinese commies for being patriotic unlike our Indian commies who prostrate before Mao and the Red army and do their bidding in India. The Chinese commies came out with their own version of communism unlike out commies using Karl Marx etc. Bottomline, the Chinese commies are no longer commies, but run the Red Empire in a capitalistic way as a Red Mafia. They will never allow any challenge to the red Mafia's authority be in from Falung Jong, Tibet (forming 40% of Red Empire) nor Taiwan. They will not grant genuine autonomy to Tibet since 40% of Red Empire and a growing number of Chinese revere Dalai Lama a direct threat to the Red Maf
RE:China's need for occupying Tibet and Xinjiang illegally
by avtar priyadarshan on Mar 23, 2008 09:59 PM Permalink
@ Bathla...... Excellent statement. I cannot agree more.Indian Commies are worse than dogs. Atleast the Dogs are faithful towards their master....
RE:China's need for occupying Tibet and Xinjiang illegally
by Fried Yakov on Mar 23, 2008 09:50 PM Permalink
Will the present UPA government have the adroitness to utilise the opportunity to ask the Chinese to declare that Arunachal and Sikkim are undisputed parts of India, that J&K is wholly and solely a part of India, and stop their support for anti-India activities by Pakistan, and hand over Akshai Chin to India? I doubt it. With all the pseudos and communists in power and no nationalists, they would rather be eager to sell off everything to the Chinese, with the Chinese slaves the CPI(M) already shouting that whatever China does it does right.
RE:China's need for occupying Tibet and Xinjiang illegally
by Bathla Gundu on Mar 23, 2008 10:01 PM Permalink
You are absoultely right my friend. India's chalta hai attitude will never allow the spineless politicians to get this sorted once and for all during our enemies (both China and Pak) weakest times. Actually most of the MPS don't know where is Arunachal Pradesh and Aksai Chin leave alone Tibet. What good can they get India.
As usual, India bends over backwards to please the Chinese and the home grown Communists. This when the Chinese are reluctant to accept that Sikkim is a part of India, even after so many years.
RE:Tibet and India
by Bathla Gundu on Mar 23, 2008 10:05 PM Permalink
India does not need China's acceptance for 1. Sikkim to be part of India. The world recognises it as much as it does AP. 2. India as a nuclear power. 3. India as a major regional power
India does not need Red Mafia's acceptance for anything, not even for the VP to meet Dalai Lama.
It is a stand taken in complete wisdom by the Indian government. We cannot afford to take sides when our own house is not in order. Moreover, by inheritence, we do not have political will for such indulgence nor we have enough resources at our disposal.
RE:Wise stand
by kskumar on Mar 23, 2008 09:35 PM Permalink
You are wrong, we need not grovel before the Chinese as it is being done now. Consider this:
1. China still regards Aunachal Pradesh as disputed territory.
2. Have grabbed Aksai Chin and also received another part of occupied Kashmir as a gift from Pakistan.
3. Have refused to recognize that Sikkim is an integral part of India.
4. Have armed and abetted Pakistan in its adventures and misadventures against India.
Still we should grovel before the Chinese?
Better to encourage the seperatist movements in Tibet and Sinkiang [where the ethnic Uighur people are demanding independence]. If these two provinces become independent, then we will have a buffer between us and China and we need not worry about the threat from China.
One has to be practical and not again descend to all those sentimental silliness of "Hindi-Chini Bhai Bhai" type.
RE:Wise stand
by avtar priyadarshan on Mar 23, 2008 09:56 PM Permalink
Ageed 100% with Kumar. And as far as Vishwas is concerned, he has been bribed by the chinese as well.All traitors in this soil should be shot in full public display.
The chinese red army had staged riots in Tibet 1. To taint the legitimate Tibetan free nation movement and the Dalai Lama 2. To divide the Tibetan independence movement and assasinate Dalai Lama (blaming the younger Tibetan dissidents) 3. As a pretext to send more troops into Tibet and its borders with India (Aksai Chin and Arunachal Pradesh), Nepal and Bhutan 4. Complete the Olympics, declare itself a world power and then attack India (soft target) illegally occupy Arunachal Pradesh and other regions as extensions of Tibet and sen a clear signal to Taiwan and Xinjiang 4. Renegotiate boundary by claiming other Indian areas as having links with Tibet.
Indian governmnt is silent since China has promised return a part of Aksai Chin in exchange for Arunachal Pradesh. Our babus and politicians have been bribed enough to agree to this solution. They are just getting the Indian public ready with statements that Arunachal is part of China.
