Tiebatians has to leave their non violence policy and start take to arms. Hit them back only then Chinese will listen. Or else will remain painful victims
RE:Chinese should be treated the same way what they are doing to Tiebetians
by Srinivas on Mar 19, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink
Kick CPIM and CPI first for their anti human attitude.
Many of us have a plenty of misconceptions about Tibet's history. Tibet is certainly a region with a culture that is distinct from Han China (the thickly populated eastern part). However, historically, China had stronger links with Tibet than India. Chinese communist forces occupied Tibet and the morality of the occupation is disputed. But the old Lama order in China was a feudal order full of oppression of the ordinary peasants. US supported Dalai Lama and conferred Nobel prize on him only because CIA needed an agent against the communist China during the cold war. If tomorrow, Tibetans want independence and a democracy, I have no problems except that it risks being another failed state in Asia like Bangladesh. But no civilized person will advocate the return to the medieval rule of Dalai Lama. Any Indian's blood should boil with the atrocities committed by Lamas in the name of Buddhism, a noble religion originated in India.
RE:Dalai Lama is no Saint
by bhavdeep on Mar 19, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
China is committing genocide, which is the biggest cruelity on humanity. It is not allowing any reporters to go there so that they cannot report and show its cruelity to world. It is like a Wolf and Lamb story read during school days. I think it was for China and Tiebet
RE:Dalai Lama is no Saint
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
Again this is a myth. China has committed no genocide in Tibet. This is all western propoganda. It is true that Tibet is getting modernised and Tibetans are not getting their due. But there is no genocide.
RE:RE:Dalai Lama is no Saint
by Shesh Lak on Mar 19, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
Astute, If China is not doing anything wrong then why they are not allowing media to cover the news of happening. Why so much of restrictions? Listen, if someone have correct intentions then he wont worry about anything because he knows he is not doing anything wrong. But it is not the same in Tibet. Chinese dont want anyone to know about the the happenings in Tibet thats why they are not allowing anyone so that they can cover up everything.
RE:RE:Dalai Lama is no Saint
by bhavdeep on Mar 19, 2008 08:25 PM Permalink
It is not the Western nation But the Tiebetians in exile are claming of genocide. Why not China allows the press to enter in Tiebet
RE:Dalai Lama is no Saint
by common sense on Mar 19, 2008 08:32 PM Permalink
Astute will have no answer for your question because the bloody chinese themselves dont have an answer for your question. Astute is a road side communist who wants to support terror china
RE:Dalai Lama is no Saint
by Shesh Lak on Mar 19, 2008 08:28 PM Permalink
If non-violence mean medieval culture, then let it be. It is better than killing anyone blindly. More over who are you to advocate about the Tibetians. If they get freedom, then it is for them and every human have the right to live freely. Tibet is forcefully taken over by China, and they have been asking for greater autonomy for past 5o yrs or more. It is not the same as Kashmir where the king decided to merge it with India, but Tibet always wanted to be free and independent country. I dont know from where this CIA is issue have come up. Tell me something, how much help Dalai Lama can provide to US? What power Dalai Lama has? nothing. he himself is exiled in India and US is seeking help from him, oh my god someone should give some brain to this Astute. More over the matter of failed state, it is something you must know about. If you see the poor countries around the world, almost all the countries have failed to maintain democracy and India being an exception. You will find most of the poor countries are led be dictators. Why not to open up your mind and think positively. Unless and untill Tibetians are given a chance how can they prove themselves.
Tibet will be free soon!!! Dictatorship never lasted in the world.....!!! The Chinese think they are the smartest ass in the world....Americans, Indians and Jews will prove to the baap of these Chinese!!!
RE:Tibet will be free!!!
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 08:10 PM Permalink
This is an irresponsible statement with little knowledge about Tibetan history and the reality of Tibetan problem.
RE:Tibet will be free!!!
by Shesh Lak on Mar 19, 2008 08:17 PM Permalink
Astute, As if you are the history writer of Tibet. What do you know about Tibet? What is they get freedom. Just dont behave like as if you are the only guy who knows about the happenings. We dont have any blind fold and we can see what ever is happening.
RE:Dalai lama a wlf in monk's clothes
by Astute Analyst on Mar 19, 2008 08:11 PM Permalink
Prakash Karat might be a political leader but if you engage intellectually with him, I am sure he can defend his position.
RE:Dalai lama a wlf in monk's clothes
by bhavdeep on Mar 19, 2008 08:20 PM Permalink
We do not need people (Parkash Karat) who can defend Genocide. Let Parkash Karat family be murdered and then some one intellectually defending that. How will it sound!
RE:Dalai lama a wlf in monk's clothes
by ghanchakker on Mar 19, 2008 08:22 PM Permalink
does say of sitaram yechury , karat and other communist leaders matter in india ?they are not a force in india.and you have not voted for them!please ask the leaders who you have voted in the past election or are going to vote in the next general elections! why those leaders of major parties such as BJP which as per you may win and trinmool congress samta party are silent!they are a political force in this country and they should march along with tibetan refugees in india to chinese embassy !
Communists are devils in red clothing. They are the scourge of the civilisation as they thrive on misery and poverty and want the masses to be hungry and deprived; otherwise they will lose the need for their existence!!
RE:Commies
by ghanchakker on Mar 19, 2008 08:58 PM Permalink
is the issue in this forum is hatered to communists or Tibetan issue? and who are you to decide that who is nationalist and who is antinational?do u think that bagat singh was a antinational or that chanderShekhar was not nationalist ? and the india bouregise middle class that wants to leave india and settle in usa and western countries nationalists? this so called middle class and its leaders who while showing their hatered towards towards communists and purchasing of course thru bribes and illegal money by depriving poor indians of their rights only buying Chinese TVs , Moboiles , washing machines and festival lamps during festivals only choinese ! i ask all bourgese middle class indians and i mean you mr. Prsbhakar Krishna will you stop buying chinese products and lead a movement thru your leaders against Chinese products in india and ask indian Govt. to ban chinese products!
India is a great democracy which has always allied with communists....be it the russians or the chinese........why does India have to wait to be invaded once again by china to understand that democracy and communism does not go together........support for Free Tibet is not only morally right but also of strategic advantage to India........Free Tibet !!!
RE:Tibet
by ghanchakker on Mar 19, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
as i read recently it is stated that so called Tibetan Refugees will not give up their Refugee Status!even if given an opportunity to go to tibet tyhey will never go to Tibet!they are using the tibetan issue to get sympthy and prepetual Refugee Status!the so called Tibetan Refugees settled in us , canada and other western countries and in india who are well settled and doing good business (selling Chinese products)in their shops all over india ! will never give up their Refugee status!they are using the aggression of china in Tibet for garnering sympathy and refugee status and financial grants from UN , US !they are only providing lip service to real Tibetans and are in fact using then for their motives of retaining Refugee Status !
What a shame on the part of China to make such a foolish statement and whatz more worse is that: they are pointing fingers at a Nobel Laureate. Little do they realize that three fingers are pointing back towards themselves!!! It is better that the reporter does not waste his time in approaching the CHINESE PARTY OF INDIA (CPI) AGENTS, because they will not talk through their mouths!!!
forget about bashing CPM . I welcome everone to our bread and butter issue. Please visit Provincialism: Problems of Mumbai discussion in rediffmail.com
