Raj and Bala are playing marathi cards. They should learn lesson from history. Migrants should not come to Maharashtra/Mumbai if this logic was applied in 500 years before Chhatrapati Shivajis ancestors would have not come to Maharashtra. Shivaji ( a migrant form Rajasthan %u2013 Refer book Shivchhatrapati by Baba Saheb purandare) trained them in warfare and was able to win suntans and mughals. After his death maratha following his war tactics started winning/rulling almost entire India. But they could not make people/warrior of other parts of India( in which Shivaji was master) to be on their side. The effect was seen in Panipat war, in which they could not convince other community to fight form their side.
Raj and Bala are not mixing themselves with other community of India (because of superiority complex %u2013 without doing any superior thing) are leading Marathi mannos/community towards disaster. Marathi manoos should do introspection in understand this.
Thank you Colonel, I appreciate your write up...best suited time.I too born and brought in Mumbai, i studied Marathi and can talk marathi as good as my marathi friends. I have more Marathi speaking friend that others. Till this Raj thackery's hatread policy i never ever imagined this type of situation will crop up in My Mumbai. recently i was discussing with one of my Marathi friend, he too is of the same opinion of mine that Raj is creating his own and his son's future on the blood pitch of poor and innocent worker. We had great regards for Raj when we were in college as he was Vidhyathi sena, today we feel lucky for not joining this outfit and we remain out of any student outfit. Dear Mr.Raj there are lots of other issues which can help/build nation. Please don't do anything which will people will remember for wrong reasons. "DESHALA TODU NAKA, GHANERADI RAJNEETI KARU NAKA" PUNHA DUSARI CHOOK NAKO"
RE:Provincialism: Problems of Mumbai
by Peter Parker on Mar 20, 2008 10:39 AM Permalink
Tiwariji deshalo kon todthay pan baherche lok ewdhe ale ahe ke tyacha shivay kahi upay nahin. Aplayla desh vachwaiche ahe tar maharashtra'th yayche band kara
RE:Provincialism: Problems of Mumbai
by Sunil Tiwari on Mar 20, 2008 10:56 AM Permalink
Dear Peter Parker, some time back when we were watching one interview, that time Raj was with SS, In one interview one reporter asked on SS Leader, you talk about Marathi, Marathi and Marathi but why don't you send your children in Marathi School, why are you sending them in English School...
Reply you have to Judge.............
Mala fakt evedhech sangayache ahe ki Garibana marroon fakt vote midnar...Dusara rasta navhta???
U r free 2 do anything that is the advantage of democracy which is sometime opposit too... no suggestions..only it hurts somewhere
Somewhere i had read that it is human to quarell..If u leave even two brothers in a room they are sure to fight...Upper caste people kept torturing dalits for many centuries nd when Indian constitution provided them resrevation suddenly everything took u turn...The people who use to polish the shoes of upper castes were now their peers...Change was too severe for evryone to accept... the migratnts from UP,Bihar r facing a similar situation...most of the migrants were poor nd were acceptable to thier Maharastrinas boss...but with the time these migrants started catchig up with their marathi counterparts...then the real race began ...they were now elected as MLAs nd MPs nd started to be a strong contender to Marathis..How can ny boss be comfortable to be at equal footings with thier slaves? Protest was natural...n number of reasons were floated to justify thier strife against these migrants like spoiling the culture,polluting the city,son of the soils theory etc etc ...may be some of these theory were justified but main reason was slave nd boss sharing tea on same table...it wil take human civilisation to get accustomed to these things...until then such regionalism would keep erupting nd making headlines
RE:slave nd boss
by arun singh on Mar 20, 2008 10:15 AM Permalink
you may be right in your theory but the biggest problem is that government is not doing its job. People will have the feelings of intolerance to others but so far there is fear of rule of law, things will remain under control.
Raj Thakare has committed a crime of spreading hatred and he should be convicted and put in jail. I am sure if he is forced to live an ordinary prisoner's life inside the jail, he will immediately stop doing the politics of spreading hatred. But sadly, a corrupt and extremely poor country like India is always afraid to take action against such people. Bhindaranwale is one such example. Now every body agrees that if government had taken action against Bhindaranwale in the begining itself, the people of Punjab in general and Sikhs in particular, would have been saved from suffering so much of miseries. The history should not be repeated in Maharashtra now.
RE:Rule of Law must prevail
by arun singh on Mar 20, 2008 10:38 AM Permalink
Maharashtra is as Bimaru as Bihar if you take Mumbai and Pune out of it. Do I need to remind you where is the sucide capital of India? Or, Vidarbha and Marathwada are not part of Maharashtra? Only Mumbai is Maharashtra?
RE:Rule of Law must prevail
by sandyurs on Mar 20, 2008 10:39 AM Permalink
I agree with Indianboy. Nobody is objecting people migrating to Mumbai. The objection is they are trying to change Marathi culture. If you are migrating for job, request you to aty away from entering local politics. Politician from UP & Bihar is trying to gain political advatage from increasing numbers of migrant from this states.
RE:Rule of Law must prevail
by arun singh on Mar 20, 2008 10:46 AM Permalink
By "Changing" Marathi culture, migrants have made Mumbai a rich city. If it was not so, Mumbai would have been no different from any city of Maharashtra, Vidarbha, Marathwada.
RE:Thank you ... A very very relevant article !
by Sachin S on Mar 20, 2008 10:50 AM Permalink
Absolutely.We overwork and our family lives suffer ,but we have to pay taxes which these biharis and UPites don't.They do not have their families here ,they can work without disturbing theur family lives. How long Maharashtrians are going to tolerate this ? All other communities are making us feel overpowered and making our lives miserable.Maharashtrians never do that when they go in other states. MARATHI MANASA AATA TARI JAGA HO . HAKLUN LAV YA BHAYYA LA.
RE:Thank you ... A very very relevant article !
by Peter Parker on Mar 20, 2008 10:42 AM Permalink
You hit the nail on the head. The constitution is flawed in the sense it does not recognize state domicile and by the incessant supreme court interference in which state government resources are spent on non-resident/ migrant individuals. The solution is simple recognize state nationality.
In erstwhile Bombay Presidency, Marathis were the majority people.
There was no fight as such between Marathis, Gujarathis and Kannadigas.
Maharashtra state was created to clip the wings of Morarji Desai and Chavan, who nehru saw as a threat.
Nehru did similar politics with Tamils and Telugus to clip the wings of C Rajagopalachari, India's first Governor General and Subsequent Prime Minister (those days, CMs were called PMs) of Madras Presidency.
Linguistic State Reorganisation was a fraud perpetrated by Nehru whose effects we are living today. As long as Sardar was alive this madness never took off. Sardar Pate's Kar Committee explicitly recommended that linguistic states not good for India.
Nehru and congress added the language politics to divide and rule;
Manipulating caste, divide Hindus, self serving agenda - this is the essence of nehru family and congress. Now of course they are using this thakeray idiot to split the marathis.
Hope maharashtrians and hindi speakers will give a fitting reply to these crooks next elections.
Solution: Let the feelings of antinational vermin be damned. Make citiies like chennai, bangalore, hyderabad, mumbai, lucknow, kolkata and ahmedabad be declared UTs with immediate effect.
The article by anil is third rate. he shows a subconscious marathi bias. Nevertheless his core point is correct...language politics is not good for India. The only beneficiaries will be anti national vermin that seek to undermine Indi
RE:Idiot nehru and language politics.
by Peter Parker on Mar 20, 2008 10:33 AM Permalink
Are you kidding me. You curse Nehru and yet at the same time you want to make all non-hindi cities under hindi control. Are you out of your mind? That is the best way for national disintegration. Try to take chennai away from Tamil Nadu lol or Hyderabad away from AP or Calcutta away from W. Bengal or even Banglore away from Karnataka hahaahahaha. You have to be kidding right. What Anil has written is whats on the marathi conciousness. You are foolish if you want to deny that this thinking is not shared by most if not all maharashtrian. Ask any maharashtrian on the road and he will tell you what he thinks about delhi.
RE:Idiot nehru and language politics.
by Singha on Mar 20, 2008 12:52 PM Permalink
christy idiot. UT does not mean Hindi control. It will mean, no single state can claim title to cities and to build a genuine Indian (Cosmopoliton) city.
This article has been written by a Pakistani Historian. It much better than JNU liars , like Romila Thapad. In case you have problems just type Shahida Kazi in Google search, you will get the details of this article.
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Myth 4
The myth of the cap-stitcher.
Of all the kings who have ruled the subcontinent, the one singled out for greatest praise in our text books is Aurangzeb, the last of the great Mughals. Baber built the empire; Humayun lost it and got it back; Akbar expanded and consolidated it; Jahangir was known for his sense of justice; Shahjehan for his magnificent buildings. But it is Aurangzeb, known as a pious man, who grabs the most attention. The prevalent myth is that he did not spend money from the treasury for his personal needs, but fulfilled them by stitching caps and copying out the Holy Quran. Is there any real need for discussing this assertion? Anyone who%u2019s least bit familiar with the Mughal lifestyle would know how expensive it was to maintain their dozens of palaces. The Mughals used to have many wives, children, courtiers, concubines and slaves who would be present in each palace, whose needs had to be met. Could such expenses be met by stitching caps? And even if the king was stitching caps, would people buy them and use them as ordinary caps? Would they not pay exorbitant prices for them and keep them as heirlooms? Would a king, whose focus had to be on military threats surrounding him from all sides and o
I see no traces of shivaji in Delhi. There could outside delhi for few years. We are no fan of Nehru and Gandhi otherwise he would have not divided on the Bangla and Punjab while leaving Kashmir and Gujarat and Nawabi regions in south. All this lead to intense migration from regions that are now called UP/MP/Bihar/Rajasthan into Pakistan and reverse migrations from Pakistan region. Again, the national language politics was not played wisely by Nehru. If Peacock is the national bird and if Tamils want Pigeon as national bird, he could have said, we don't impose if you choose to speak tim buktoo. He invited UN-NECESSARY PREJUDICE AND WRATH ON NORTH INDIANS. Naming national is different thing and making people accept is upto them.
RE:this is a joke, shivaji rule Delhi?
by Peter Parker on Mar 20, 2008 10:55 AM Permalink
You think this just happened?? You think one fine day maharashtrians got sick of UP and biharis? Dude maharashtrians were already sick of the incoming flux of migrants; but the number of UP and Biharis coming in made them decide if nothing is done, Maharashtra culture and polity will be completely violated. Even the most secular maharashtrian when given a choice between marathi politicians and UP/Bihari guys will choose the local politicians.
