In all the big historical moments, we Indians have been invaded, or bowed to invasion, or ran away from invaders. We need to redeem ourselves by standing up for our Tibetan brothers, who have done no wrong to anybody. You can see how pacifists the Dalai Lama is, when he calls for non-violence even when his people are being shot in the street. While I respect his Holiness the Dalai Lama, I must respectfully disagree with him. China should not be appeased, or they will only take it as a sign to try and grab more. We will rue our cowardly ways.
It's laughable. There are messages below about equating Kashmir to Tibet. Folks, first be an Indian and do your homework, 1. Kashmir has historically been part of the ruling Delhi empires (in recent history, Mughal and Punjab, before that Hindu rulers). Tibet was never historically part of China. 2. No non-Kashmiri can purchase land in Kashmir. Whereas, in Tibet, Hans are given subsidies to settle and operate bussiness in Tibet. 3. China armed Pak even while maintaining it's silence on Kashmir. 4. Kashmir issue came up when one land and people was partitioned to create two. Tibet issue hapened when chinese army marched to Tibet and captured it. I can go on and on and on on why India has a moral obligation as well as obligation to it's citizens to support Tibet. But, then comes the fact of wuss historically ruling at the center, and half educated morons not knowing between right from wrong, sigh!
Along with Arunachal Pradesh our govt should also strongly claim Aksai Chin and the area which Pakistan illegally surrenderd to this cruel China. India should more strongly protest against China otherwise today they are claiming Arunachal Pradesh tomorrow they will claim Uttar Pradesh as their internal territory. Regarding Tibet and Taiwan they are separate and inependent country and never been a part of China. We all Indians should come forward and join the protest with our Tibetian brothers and sisters against China. China doesn't know the power of Indian people. Indians has the power to remove China from the world map, so Tibetian brothers and sisters don't worry Indians are with you. Tibet will surely gain independence from China. Tibet belongs to Tibetians only. you devil China FREE TIBET! JAI HIND BHARAT MATA KI JAI
RE:Don't forget Aksai Chin as Indian's internal Territory
by Fried Yakov on Mar 19, 2008 02:59 AM Permalink
I am not sure what the future holds in store, but if this repression in China continues, soon China may face a Tibetian version of the Vietcong. The Buddhist ethos of the Tibetians has prevented this so far I think, but this cannot continue long. Already young Tibetians are dissenting the Dalai Lama's decision to accept limited autonomy under Chinese rule, and if such repressions continue, soon there will be a Tibetian version of the Vietcong to take on the Chinese war machine.
It unfortunate of Tibetians for what they are going through but considering that the entire wold has maintained a diplomatic stance on the Kashmir issue saying that its an internal matter between India and Pak, so should India maintain a diplomatic stance and concentrate on its internal affairs and development rather than poking its nose into its neighbours issue.
RE:Lets be neutral
by Pathur Swaminathan on Mar 19, 2008 02:51 AM Permalink
Kashmir acceded, while Tibet was forcibly annexed. So while it is relevant that the world does not poke its nose into the internal affairs of India, it must take a strong stand of solidarity with Tibeteans, when there is a cry for freedom, liberty, and democracy; else, it will only demonstrate the hypocracy of the "world community".
RE:Lets be neutral
by Mahesh on Mar 19, 2008 03:01 AM Permalink
So tomorrow after clamining tibet, China will come to claim UP, then world would say it's an internal matter between China and India, Let's be Neutral. Wow what a view @@
yes we should. if we let it go to this bloody land grabber, they will definitely come and slowly grab more of our own land. this has happened and is happening and will happen too. it is because they invaded tibet and now they are claiming arunachal pradesh saying it belonged to tibet and hence it should be seeded to china. did we say them to invade a small country tibet? why did they invade. now it is their right to ask for freedom. why did we fought for freedom. it is the same story. everyone needs freedom. can we invade part of china and say that whole china should be seeded to india? if you are invading somebody's land by force, it is old. now the world is developed. why did they ask for freedom in case of hong kong? if they don't want to give freedom to tibet then hong kong should be given back to england. do they do so?
RE:yes
by Rajeev G on Mar 19, 2008 02:43 AM Permalink
ok.. then tomorrow give away Kashmir. because kashmiris are saying we are bloody land grabbers. This applies to a lot of places on earth. We should not support somebody based on emotions but national interest is more important.
RE:yes
by Lloyd Monteiro on Mar 19, 2008 02:59 AM Permalink
Why is successive indian governments afraid of china. We should support the Tibet cause. China supports pakistan and we should support china enemies. We should also spread democracy to our neighbors like Nepal, Burma and china that is the best bet for India. Problem is our politicians are greedy.
RE:yes
by satyanarayana Raju on Mar 19, 2008 05:27 AM Permalink
India.... Go and support Tibet. Lets support the right cause. Let not bigger nations exploit the smaller ones this way. We fight for good and always. They were part of us and lets unite again.
RE:RE:yes
by Pathur Swaminathan on Mar 19, 2008 02:56 AM Permalink
You are correct it is in our interest to support the Tibeteans and play the Tibet card strongly: 4 of the national rivers originate in the Tibetean glaciers. With global warming and the systematic land grabbing by the Chinese and thier plans to divert the waters North, it is in our interest to take the bull by the horn. Wrt "Kashmiris", they are nothing more proxies for the evil Islamist ideology that is playing out it peace in the forms of suicide bombings -- it is political Islam at its best, in collusion with Chinese!
Why all this fuss over this minute uprising. This is but natural for China alone begot this !! For long the rest of the world has turned its face away from Tibet, a nation that is going into extinction thanks to the ploy of China. The time has come. BOYCOTT THE OLYMPICS in true sportsman spirit. By partcipating in this one is supporting whta China stands for. The crunch should be applied to China by countries that love freedom and respect culture, tradition and language. We all know why China is conquering Tibet. Natural Resources and access to other parts of the Continent.
I as an Individual Sympthasizes with the tibetans. But would expect the Indian govt to do the same. Tibet is an Internal Issue of China and we should stay away from it. Practically speaking, we cannot do much about it.Even countries Like US,UK are also just voicing their dissents.. Why are we advocating to push India into a fire.
RE:Tibet
by on Mar 19, 2008 03:08 AM Permalink
Rajiv, You talk like a true politician. Just to cover up our face from Kashmir issue and to have political upper hand you want India to act mum on the issue of Tibet. I do not know if you have travelled or spoken to people who travelled to Tibet. The way China treated the people in the region after the big brother India accepted to be blind over the issue of Tibet is very painful to see or hear. I am sure India has acted even 1% cruelty with the locals as China did. Just because you have stolen some bread does not mean that if some one tries to rob your house you shut up and let him take away everything including your wife and children. Act with humanity and give values to life and truth. Not think from business mind. You will end up loosing everything you have in this world, mainly the peace. India should say what it feels correctly regardless what the politics demand or the benefit in terms of gain of power.
RE:Tibet
by Lloyd Monteiro on Mar 19, 2008 03:01 AM Permalink
because sooner than later they will claim indian territory. When you identify the source of the fire you should stub it out immediately and not later.
OK its between China and Tibet but by saying such strong statments against the tibetians, the UPA gov.t has just their loyalty towards China. If they dare not support Tibetians, they need not oppose them and theaten them as if they are Chinese dogs. Shame on India, Shame on UPA, shame on CPM
RE:Thats just the stand of our humble gov.t
by Partha Choudhury on Mar 19, 2008 02:37 AM Permalink
Indian government's handling of the Tibet issue is directly tied to Kashmir...
RE:Thats just the stand of our humble gov.t
by sandeep munshi on Mar 19, 2008 02:47 AM Permalink
what if China starts supporting pakistan on kashmit just to get back at us?
RE:Thats just the stand of our humble gov.t
by italyseaayi on Mar 19, 2008 03:13 AM Permalink
They are supporting since decades. why are u have doubts about it. Got money from Commies...
What difference does it make to us that this is happening in Tibet. If it were actually making a difference we would be doing something rather than talking. So all of you are just enjoying this conversation and nothing more. Can we do something ...who are we to help anybody? What help can we provide? What would we charge for that help? Has anyone even thought of these things...
When a peaceful person gets infuriated one can rest assured he could be more dangerous than a King Cobra. Buddhist monks in Tibet are peace loving people who are now finding it too difficult to live under Chinese regime. China has done a Himalayan blunder by enraging these monks. China could have granted autonomy or some kind of freedom to the region in the same way Hong Kong is being treated now and the problem would not have reached this magnitude. When China could grant Hong Kong one of the three economies that are being followed in the country what was wrong with Tibet? Perhaps they found Tibetans too weak to be granted this luxury. Time is now over when a country could suppress the feelings of the people by using brute force. The world has seen how the Tiananmen Square incident in 1989 changed the lives of the people in China. The case of Arunanchal Pradesh and other territories that China is disputing with India is totally different from Tibet. The people of the disputed territories don%u2019t want to go with China whereas Tibetans want total freedom. Tibetans will now start getting more and more support from the international community with the rise in violent protests and subsequent quelling of violence with the use of sheer force. India and Dalai Lama should not have spoken anything, ether in favour or against, for what is happening in China and could have silently watched the happenings going in our favour. We are on the verge of getting what we had been wanting for
RE:Tibet will become China's headache
by polle kande on Mar 19, 2008 02:29 AM Permalink
Send some Up/Biharis to Tibet. That will teach Chinese good lesson to keep Tibet to themselves. Kaho Chen lee , nahi dhoi kakdi khai !!
RE:RE:Tibet will become China's headache
by Partha Choudhury on Mar 19, 2008 02:39 AM Permalink
That could have been used as an effective solution to the kashmir issue with Pakistan... if you want Kashmir, you have to take Bihar with it!
