RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by AVV on Mar 13, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
Germany was not a democracy when Hitler ruled Germany. Modi is the king in democratic India. So there is a huge difference
RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by Nanchil on Mar 13, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
Hitler was elected by germans. Democracy was their when Hitler attained power.
RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by Nanchil on Mar 13, 2008 02:59 PM Permalink
I inherited this land from my forefathers buddy. No such hindu or hinduism existed before 2000 years in the land I am standing. What was there was what we call dravidian religion. I am the son of this soil.
RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by Nanchil on Mar 13, 2008 02:49 PM Permalink
YOu are proud of a name given by muslims who you bash all through these forums. What a shame!
RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by Kaushik Ganguli on Mar 13, 2008 03:06 PM Permalink
Hitler was elected Chancellor of Germany in 1933 when the Weimar Republic was in place. He dissolved the assembly later and established the Third Reich which ruled Germany from 1933 to 1945.
Hitler was a lover of Germany though he was from Austria. He had fought in World War I and had been injured. He seethed in the humiliation of Germany's defeat. His only motive was to see Germany rule Europe which it should even today. There was nothing wrong in what he thought. Germans are the greatest race in the world and our role model for a world class organization should be the Waffen SS headed by Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler.
RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by veera kumar on Mar 13, 2008 02:54 PM Permalink
and the land today where u stand is given to u by Majority hindus ...remember that ....
RE:Modi is the King of Gujarat
by veera kumar on Mar 13, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
My father learned all these form ur grand father .....we are just giving it back
Yes he was a teriorst .We can say anything . But that will be a lie. A terrorist is one who create a terror . He was one we can hide or denies. Modi is a cheat . We should kick his a**
RE:Sivaji was teriorist
by AVV on Mar 13, 2008 02:15 PM Permalink
Shivaji maharaj created Maharashtra and he cannot be forgotten. No matter what idiots like you say, Shivaji Maharaj will remain Shivaji maharaj.
RE:Sivaji was teriorist
by Arjun bharatiya on Mar 13, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
Please ..Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj is an inspiration for all of us. Jai Bhavani Jai Shivaji.
RE:Sivaji was teriorist
by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 02:02 PM Permalink
Shivaji is not a terrorist. Look in the history book thus. Who protected tamil land against the muslim- after the collapse of the vijayagar kingdom? The proof is that there is still temple who is more than 500 years old in the south. In the North -most if not all the ancient temple has been destroyed.
RE:Sivaji was teriorist
by All Right on Mar 13, 2008 08:39 PM Permalink
Ye tamil ekdum theek boltaa hai bhai... Isko kal raat ko divya drushti praapt hui aur usme bataaya gaya ki Shivaji ki asliyat kyaa thi aur Modi kyon galat hai. aaj ki taarikh mein tamil ka knowledge george bush se bhi jyaada maana jaata hai. koi shak?
Killing, murdering, raping innocent people when you are in power, with the help of police and military. Killing innocent people is not the criteria for bravery, heroism, valor or matter of swollen with pride and proud. You are not brave, you are just coward. When you are in power if peace, justice and equality prevail and sustain then you can proud, you are brave and get pride of this achievement. Give me power I will make ADVANIS, Modis and thakrays terrorist. I can bring from their homes bombs, RDX, riffles, AK47, Ak56. I can create so many proofs that world can see. You can put Muslims in jails, just crush them. This is the systematic suppression of Muslims. This is the game of power. Brave are those who bring justice, equality and peace when they are in power. Modi is a just coward and tool of RSS Gang the Semi Government Organization
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 01:58 PM Permalink
Ask muslim to stop attacking,bombing,killing us. Then we don't need protection- but till we need protection, we will need leaders- and Modi will provide protection againts attack by the Jihadis against us. The US had bush- now you do't hear of attack on US- because Bush took the war nad destruction to the muslim. We need strong leaders in the time of need. We had no strong leaders 1000 years ago- we got a mountain range name after our genocide- the Hindu Kush. I think suporting a strong leader is a much better alternative, than seeing war, destruction and genocide on us again.
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:01 PM Permalink
A true democracy is synonymous only with real freedom and its human rights records abuses is no worse than its neighbours. On the contrary, in a system where a state minister can openly justify murder and still allowed to cling to his office is a sham democracy.
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
I agree with you on that- human right record is a must. Even in difficult time, hope the law is applied to its full extent. But still we can't hide from the threat that is descending on us. It may be real or maybe perceived- it has to be dealt with. If it is real, action has to be taken. If it is perceived, then public awareness has to be done. But at this point in time, we need strong leaders- otherwise hot headed people will start taking law into their own hand at any realor even perceived threat. We just need a strong leader - right now, to keep everybody safe.
RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
snpost Do you thik this sort of leaders like Modi is working for the public intrest,,,,Then i should assume you in a darkage,,,, Every leader works for his material gain only rather than public intrest,,,,
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
Well lets which way the wind blows for his vision of blood bath in future,,,,,,
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
He is just a strong leader- he is not perfect. He is not the type of leader who is needed in quiet time, but he is the kind of leader required in this time of rapid change and uncertainty in India. That's just my opinion- and there is 1 billion people here who will vote, and who has a different view of life.
RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 02:07 PM Permalink
well said, We support Modi, many modis... we should invite good leaders like modi to crush "Danavs"
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
I really pity on your backward thinking,,, Modi have no capability to send shivers among moslems instead he is regarded as one devil belonging to a filthy Race!!!!! who send anger among muslims
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Sampath Kumar on Mar 13, 2008 02:28 PM Permalink
Your views on Modi is wrong. Probabl his achievementd in ensuring electricity, water is unheard of in your madrassa in Islamabad.
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by The Brain on Mar 13, 2008 02:18 PM Permalink
Mr.. Lalu,
so you agree that that problem started with the babri masjid.. when the people of the country were living in peace than why you people wanted to play with the sentiment of Muslims...
Just for the sake of power, BJP started it with Babri masjid and now with gujrat riot...
how funny is that Muslims can't withstand one of their mosque demolished but expects hindu's to forget the thousands of temples destroyed by Muslims ....
RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Sultan on Mar 13, 2008 02:28 PM Permalink
MR. Veera kumar r u funny, what is the difference between you and terrorists, because both are fighting for history without seeing the present. If interview terrorists they will tell you same story like you go and ask kashmiris problem.
RE:RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Sampath Kumar on Mar 13, 2008 02:31 PM Permalink
Yes, they will have a reason for firing rockets and destroying buddha statues.
RE:RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 02:30 PM Permalink
now Veera is funny and you are preaching him of being secular, your history says kill kaffirs in Islaam, is this applicable to modern world.. come on guys.. "let's ask questiosn to so called educated muslims"
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Sultan on Mar 13, 2008 02:49 PM Permalink
Yes we can do Mr. Veera, if you are so religios, why dont you read your books which says donot pray idols. Then the problem will solve. We say Everything belongs to GOD you say every thing is GOD. Adhore the creator nor his creation.
RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 02:28 PM Permalink
You agree that Babri demolition was wrong.. next question... How babri was built, where it was built, what was demolished and destroyed...
I knew your answer..
BJP did same thing what Babar did.. at that time Babar came with big army destroyed..
"Ayodhya is place of lord Ram" that's it... He was a myth or imagination or whatever , as you and others claim but he is belief in same way as you claim illietarate Mohammad remeber koran which was preached by Allah through one of the angel Jibreel that's your belief...
RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Supersecualirist on Mar 13, 2008 03:20 PM Permalink
...'when people of the country were living in peace'... You mean to say that in every part of India there was only peace? What about the State of Jammu & Kashmir? Can you confirm that the terrorism started there only after the demolition of the disputed structure at Ayodhya.
RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:47 PM Permalink
Gyan Vedi Bosss It has already been proved by you scholars only that Hinduism is not a religion its just a notion created by your old people to organize life,,,,Even that you guys keep on giving justification for you fake mythology,,,,,, HINDUISM as a faith is vague, amorphous, many sided, all things to all men. It is hardly possible to define it, or indeed to say definitely whether it is a religion or not, in the usual sense of the word. In its present form, and even in the past, it embraces many beliefs and practices, from the highest to the lowest, often opposed to or contradicting each other."
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by veera kumar on Mar 13, 2008 02:50 PM Permalink
@fre lancer
now we have every reason to take on Muslims in India ....if they have to adacity to ridicule hinduism in hindustan ,so are were to take on Muslims ...so dont expect any regrets form our side
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
Mr.Lalu Mulayam Let me ask you forget the through out the world whats happening there thats not our concern just look in india,,, Who is the poineer of terrorism ---- Who demolished babri mosque-???? Riots in india started when BJP started ruling and they gave font hand RSS element to work actively in india to promote terrorims on the name of religion... So before raising the finger show the mirror to your community first pleaseeeee
RE:RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by snpost on Mar 13, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
Who destroyed Ram temple to built a Mosque there in the first place. i am not justifying the act of destruction of a place of worship- but people always reap what they sow, even after a few 100's years. So education and respect to each other is required. otehrwise we are going on a downward spiral- both hindus and muslims.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:18 PM Permalink
snpost You are talking like you know complete history,,,You are just delivering what your leaders fed you,,,,Anyway there was a temple or church whatever it was.... But it was a mosque at the time of demolotion,,,So we have to consider the poineer of terrorism in india is fanatical parties BJP/VHP/RSS......Their main agenda is create tension, hatred for their material gain only,,,
RE:Great Personolity Modi
by Supersecualirist on Mar 13, 2008 03:16 PM Permalink
The whole world knows the complete history of Islam. Of course it was a temple before demolition where the disputed structure was buiilt. And there has been a case going on for more than 100 years for recovery of the land seized by the Islamic terrorist rulers.And the structure remained a dilapidated building.
It is quite amazing to see how so many educated people prasing the Killer Modi. He has killed so many people, women and children are burnt alive, still he is a hero for some fascists & lunatics.
If our Indian Law is really a Law, then these kind of Monsters will be behind the bars. After all he is a Hindu and in our great Indian Law no hindu is TERRORIST.
RE:Killer Modi
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 01:46 PM Permalink
How about your terrorist brothers in Kasmir and SIMI,You call them Jihadi. When you people are burnt alive you get pain in A** how about Hindus when theya re killed in Bomb blasts...Think Mr. Momin...Your religion is encouraging others to outcast you folks from this country
RE:Killer Modi
by Sultan on Mar 13, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
In kashmir our military is fighting with freddom fighters of KAshmir and named them as a terrorists, regarding rest of India it is a political game taking advantage of present scenero of Muslims in neighbors. India always take advantage of pakistan, India thinks that pakistan a symbol for Islam. we all know in pakistan it is a poltical problem for power because of Bush invovement I donot know what is the interest he have in muslim world.
RE:Killer Modi
by Mohammed Momin on Mar 13, 2008 01:53 PM Permalink
how about many hindus caught in the bomb blast and other terrorists activities. Let alone the prosectuion, there is no news about it. It is a fact, you guyz enjoy lot of favour from our Law.
As far as Terrorism is concerned, it has been hyped by media for the interest of some communal forces.
RE:RE:Killer Modi
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
If gujarat riots are justification then bombay bomb blast too is justify under same reason why two judgement for similar crime
RE:Killer Modi
by veera kumar on Mar 13, 2008 02:40 PM Permalink
okkk ..be ready for more gujarats ....what ever it may be Minorites will pay much times higher comapred to majrotiy ....be ready
RE:Killer Modi
by Frelancer on Mar 13, 2008 02:00 PM Permalink
A true democracy is synonymous only with real freedom and its human rights records abuses is no worse than its neighbours. On the contrary, in a system where a state minister can openly justify murder and still allowed to cling to his office is a sham democracy.
RE:Killer Modi
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
Modi says" Tum hame khoon do main tumhe yahan se bhaga dunga tumahre peaceful watan Paksitan"
RE:Killer Modi
by Shankar Shinde on Mar 13, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
Still biggest amazement is how the jombies (educated) can follow the last idiot who was a murderer, rapist...
RE:Killer Modi
by Kaushik Ganguli on Mar 13, 2008 01:55 PM Permalink
What about the 800 years of muslim occupation from 712 - when the hindu king of Sind was killed by Arabs till the British came and established a rule of law in India in 1757?
What about Alauddin Khiljis destruction of Chittor in 1303 and Padminis jauhar?
What about the battle of Talikota in 1565 and the destruction of Vijayanagar by the Bahmani sultans?
What about the killing of Guru Arjan Dev in 1606 and Guru Tegh Bahadur in 1675?
Is not the Taj Mahal a ostentatious monument built with Indian natural resources - for which Indian labourers had to shed blood for 22 years and had their hands cut off??
Who is going to answer for all these barbaric acts of history? Should we not snap diplomatic relations with all muslim countries starting from Afghanistan to Iran to Uzbekistan?
RE:Killer Modi
by Mohammed Momin on Mar 13, 2008 02:04 PM Permalink
Dont try teach us history, we know what had happend. We dont need your biased history books to explain, which clearly favours hindu agenda.
RE:RE:Killer Modi
by Mohammed Momin on Mar 13, 2008 02:05 PM Permalink
Dont try teach us history, we know what had happend. We dont need your biased history books to explain, which clearly favours hindu agenda.
Forget the history about Taj Mahal, think about the present - how much revenue it earns to our country.
RE:Killer Modi
by The Brain on Mar 13, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
Dara Shikoah, the heir of Jahangir's throne, who was murdered by his own brother for the sake of power was a great Sanskrit scholar who had studied the Hindu scriptures at depth and had written a book called as Majmaul Baharayn (The meeting of the two great oceans, Hinduism and Islam).
Rahim and Raskhan are among the very popular Hindi poets who have written in Brij-bhasha in praise of Lord Krishna.
Syed Wazid Shah wrote Hir and Ranja the greatest classic of medieval times. Sheikh Mohammed has greatly contributed to Marathi literature and Shivaji's guru (saint teacher) Ramdas had special words of praise for him.
one of the Sufi saints Mir Miyan was requested to lay the foundation stone of the Golden Temple.
now this was the harmony in islamic rule and what what you are reading form the bias history.
RE:RE:Killer Modi
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 02:18 PM Permalink
We are in majority, allowed you guys to stay here and did not kick on your a** to go to Pakistan..don't you think we are doing favour on you otherwise you would have been called Muhaijir in pakistan and perished like tomatos..
Say thanks to us we are tolerating 200 millions because of our impotent government...that's why we need Modi in Delhi...
RE:RE:RE:Killer Modi
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:29 PM Permalink
There is a differnce we were never told that india is going to be hindu country. THe option at that time whether u want Islamic pakistan or secular india we don't believe in Islamic country concept and prefer to call ourself proud indian which believed in equality irrespect of caste creed nad religion. Everyone knows Mughals ruled India for more than 700 years IF they wanted they could have wiped the Hindus but they did it. So when Hindus can survive and prospered in Mughal times why questions are raised but muslim who want to stay in the same india. If Modi come to power in Delhi one think is sure Bomb blast and riots will be common or worst another division of the country this time in how many no one can say
RE:Killer Modi
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:23 PM Permalink
Muslims were the first to define boundaries of india. That' swhy akbar is called great. Before that there were lot of small kingdom which fought among themself. Inthose days to show how worth war and plunders were common. IF you go deep there will lot more war fought between hindu kings. Though taj mahal is said to be made in 22 years but there is no proof its a story that is going on though doubt are there on why so many years and also whether sharjahan survive so many years. Just because of Bush don't push indian muslim into violence. All this message just create hatred. Ask muslims they will say hang afzal guru who was proved guilty. And snapping ties with muslim countries will lead to u not be able to go out after dark as all the oil comes from there only atleast for india. The reason why india is interested in afghanistan is that it can oil through underground pipe from iran if afghanistan agrees these will save india a lot of money. Just for gujarat riots if i started hating hindu and blame u for be barbaric in the sense that those women and childs were raped again and again and they killed its like yakkkkkkkk but that doesn't mean that all hindus are like that if u think that better go to gujarat and ask modi to divide the nation again into hindu and secular india.
RE:RE:Killer Modi
by Mohammed Momin on Mar 13, 2008 01:58 PM Permalink
Our country doesnt need cleansing of muslims but it needs eradication of sick minds like Modi and gang. Your pseudo Nationalism is out now, you guyz do not love Motherland. What you crave for is POWER and superiority of Hindus.
RE:Killer Modi
by Ragavan V on Mar 13, 2008 02:14 PM Permalink
Mother Land for a muslim. It in un lslamic to call any country as Mother Land. India will stay away from Islam and India is the only country Islam can not destroy inspite of best efforts from Secularist & Porkistan.
RE:RE:Killer Modi
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:30 PM Permalink
Read Quran yourself and then u know that muslims are bound by the country they are born too. First Read Quran and then speak
RE:Killer Modi
by Mohammed Momin on Mar 13, 2008 02:24 PM Permalink
Referring to my country as Motherland does not affect my religious beliefs. I am proud of being muslim and but I love my country madly.
Modiji is absolutely correct. Even when Shivaji chopped off Shaista Khan's fingers, he spared the members of Shaista Khans harem who cowered before him. He was a very tolerant, secular leader who was perhaps centuries ahead of his thinking. He had the highest respect for women which is thus a part of Maharashtrian culture and which has got eroded due to presence of uocountry people in Maharashtra. Since I come from Bengal, I empathise with Raj Thackeray on these issues and support him.
We must pay due respect to figures such as Shivaji and Guru Gobind Singh who dared to fight the tyranny of Islam and it is only thanks to them that Hinduism is alive today. Also, India is secular because it is a hindu country and we are very tolerant and very forgiving. The ancient hindu kings in the 11th century in fact defeated the afghan kings like Mahmud of Ghazni and sent them back with gifts. Later when the afghans came back, they killed these hindu kings. So much for ingratitude which is a known muslim trait of character.
We need more people like Modiji and Ariel Sharon who can take on terrorism and tyranny. If Modiji becomes PM in 2009 it will herald a new era in Indian politics.
Shivaji was the first king who built a strong navy and the likes of Sardar Kanhoji Angre were inspired by him. He also hired French soldiers and mercenaries to train his gunners and built a strong yet nimble army which ultimately defeated Aurangzeb in the deccan and paved way for Peshwa rule in 1737.
RE:Absolutely correct
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
Check out ur history first Shivaji fought against Aurangzeb{son of hindu mother} with his commander in chief{senapati} a muslim so if he is fighting against islam tyrannt what the devoted muslim commander in chief he selected for his fight against Aurangzeb who was again born to a hindu mother. Secondly what u know about palestine. Germany lost the war but to compensate jews loss the allied [christian] force allowed them to settled in palenstine[it was already accuppied by arab and was not part of germany] where they want the land for further enlarging the jews counrty and then and still trying to remove paleestine the original dewellers. where these people go if they leave their motherland. And that's why the middle east crisis.
RE:Absolutely correct
by Kaushik Ganguli on Mar 13, 2008 01:40 PM Permalink
Are you a bangal refugee. Then there is all the more reason for you to support Modi. What happened in Noakhali in 1946? Calcutta's infrastructure was ruined due to the refugee influx from 1946 - 71.
RE:Absolutely correct
by samarjit on Mar 13, 2008 02:17 PM Permalink
Are you Tathagata??...using the name Kaushik? Tatha also talk a lot about Noakhai killings. Guru forgive me if you are Tatha.
RE:Absolutely correct
by Kaushik Ganguli on Mar 13, 2008 02:25 PM Permalink
No I am Kaushik as in Kaushik, the other name of Rishi Vishwamitra who was noted for his fearful temper. I also have a fearful temper.
A survey was done which found out that 40% of all bengali baby boys born between 1966 - 72 were named Kaushik whether in Howrah or Houston, Baranagar or Birmingham. So there. Bye - will chat later.
RE:Indian Muslims and Christians
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:09 PM Permalink
Yes the biggest is Dr. Kalam who made India nuclear country SEcond is Abdul hamid who fought for India in kashmirs. All these people including the pathan zaheer khan SRF should be declared anti national threat to india so that muslims can understand where they stand. First do that then comment One thing is clear u don't have any non hindu friends this shows the hindus never accepted anyone with profit
RE:Indian Muslims and Christians
by Imran on Mar 13, 2008 01:32 PM Permalink
Instead of questioning the patriotism of the common man go question the patriotism of the politicians who sell the country every day
RE:Indian Muslims and Christians
by Munavwar on Mar 13, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
Imran well said, and those majority of the politicians are non-muslims. As per Islam I respect all religion and my country.
RE:Indian Muslims and Christians
by Lalu Mulayam on Mar 13, 2008 01:37 PM Permalink
Dheeraj,I agree with you.Keeping this in our mind we should show Muslims their way to Pakistan.Anti Hindus are not allowed to live here.
RE:RE:Indian Muslims and Christians
by cracy on Mar 13, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
YEs let have another division one called hindus and other for secular india
RE:Indian Muslims and Christians
by saif ahmad on Mar 13, 2008 01:48 PM Permalink
Dheeraj you seem to be having a misleading impression of Muslims & Christians as inveterate foes of %u2018Mother India%u2019. No community can, claim a monopoly of Indian patriotism. Just as the Aryans, the Huns and the Greeks came to India and settled here and made this their home,so did the early Muslims. The only difference between the Muslims and the others is that the former arrived in India earlier. In fact Muslims, as a whole, can be more legitimately said to be the original inhabitants of India, since the vast majority of the Indian Muslims are descendants of converts from India%u2019s pre-Aryan aboriginal people. it is completely misleading to claim that India is not the land of the Muslims or that it belongs to the Hindus or any sect alone. Muslims & Christians remain faithful to India even after their death, while many Hindus burn their dead and throw their ashes into rivers, and the Parsis let vultures feed on their dead, the Muslims & Christians bury their dead in the bosom of the earth in India, in the very soil of their motherland where they were born and die. So dont question patriotism of anyone, no one gave you the right as well...this country is just as much yours as it is mine. And muslims are not enemies of hinduism, there are some black sheeps in every community, but dont picture the entire community in same colour, i have more hindu friends than muslim friends, infact my best friend is a Hindu from gujarat and we gel along brilliantly. I have grow
You say that you are patriotic because you bury your dead and Hindus are not patriotic because they burn their dead.
Your message itself shows that you are against Hindus.
India belongs to everyone, but the point I am trying to make is for you people, it is nothing more than a geographical region and national identity. You people keep criticising its culture, just as you now criticised the burning of the dead by Hindus. This shows that you people can never "belong" to the country in the true sense. You just happen to be here, that's all.
