We indians have this adverse attachment to belief what ever the British wrote about,the British did the History by writing about what the Muslims did and as if the whole of Bharath what belonged and ruled by the muslims. They never highlighted that they muslims were all invaders and they were not the real son's of the soil. Great kingdoms like the Vijayanagar Empire,Pallavas, Maurya's were not given due importants and about thier social and economical contributions, Congressman Like Jawarharlal Nehru, endorsed the british works only to appease the English. So get rid of the British History and write your own.Why do India be without a Back bone of its own and be a part of the commonwealth nation even after independance, why we need to adore the Queen, this the trick the English have made creating the commonwealth forum reminding all that we were once thier slaves.We Indians a always love to be slaves of the aliens than be on over own legs.
RE:Anyway, folks: Best thing that could have hannened for Hindu Unity (Hindutva) is Jehadism's spread in India and Islamic terrorism
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 13, 2008 08:02 AM Permalink
The brotherhood of Islam is not the universal brotherhood of man. It is brotherhood of Muslims for Muslims only. There is a fraternity but its benefit is confined to those within that corporation. For those who are outside the corporation, there is nothing but contempt and enmity.
Modi is right. All jihadi terrorists, their accomplices, supporters and those, including parents-relatives, who know the terrorist living amongst them- but refuse to hand them over must be hunted down and punished, as Shivaji did.
RE:Shivaji should be an ideal figure for all those fighting terrorism
by S Ramesh on Mar 13, 2008 10:06 AM Permalink
Sivaji-The Boss. He is a software system atchitect who return from US to Chennai and opens a medical university to help poor people. He also dances and sings with shreya. He got great support from Shankar,A.R.Rahman. Chumma adhirudhulla... And Sivaji does matrix kind of fight in the climax
All the hindu kings - whether from north or south, east or west, were secular to the core. They did not discriminate, allowed other religions to prosper without interference. Only the muslim kings changed the secular concept of sanatana dharma; modern pseudo secularists are selectively supporting muslims and the other so called minorities to the detriment of the majority hindus; only now, hindus have started to understand this perfidy; let us hope that ancient sanatana dharma gets its glory and all get same treatment. Hindus will not allow them to be destroyed.
RE:All hindu kings are secular
by Mind Clear on Mar 13, 2008 07:56 AM Permalink
True Secularism is True Hinduism. The whole non-Muslim world which is secular and progressive in the West and Far East practice this in principle. It is high time Hindus should take the lead not only to unite themselves but unite the non-Muslim humanity who stand for One-Law, Uniform Civil Code and Gender Equality. Parsis, Jews all found shelter from persecution in India. India was what America is today. The principles of Hinduism and Buddhism are the same as that of Confucious and Taoism, the renaissance thinkers of Europe and the constitution of the US. Caste saved India from dark days by providing some basic purpose in life. Religion is One and should be limited to Human Character and Human Values with One Common Law encouraging people to develop their Body and Mind, Emotions and Intellect, Creativity and Consciousness. The caste is a scientific concept but has been abused and distorted by confused people. It basically means that to live life intelligently we need to effectively balance the 4-forces within - Thinker, Protector, Economist, Worker - and also while governing society. This is all based on natural human intelligence. The roots of the ancient Indian philosophy which goes by the name Hinduism is actually secular, logical and universal. The idols symbolize objectives in life: Shiva (freedom), Durga (Strength), Saraswati (Knowledge), Lakshmi (Wealth), Ganesh (Wisdom). Life is God. These Goddesses are not really goddesses per se but symbolize the objectives of the p
RE:Let non-Muslims treat Muslims the way Muslims treat them
by purna on Mar 13, 2008 07:57 AM Permalink
Jihadis do suicide bombing in muslim countries also; they are dumb, viscious and pest. They deserve no sympathy.
RE:Let non-Muslims treat Muslims the way Muslims treat them
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Mar 13, 2008 07:58 AM Permalink
Let them blow up their own people. Why do you bother?
it will hurt but the truth is sivaji was never a king. he was the leader of small group who rebelled against Aurangzeb but was never successful. he always lived a rebellious life while aurangzeb had so many hindus in his courtyard and he had no problem with the hinds neither hindus had any problem with him. please read history before the written before the contamination done by RSS and BJP minded persons. you will come to know the truth.
Do you think hiding under assumd name because you are worried for your islamic identity, absolute garbage messages like the above does serve any purpose, except provoking average middle class Hindu?
RE:was sivaji a king??
by Danial Fakih on Mar 13, 2008 08:05 AM Permalink
Mukharjee, Its a shame on u to talk like that.Why does it matter if the truth is coming thru Golden or whatever...But tum jaisay padhay likhay jahil aisa hee jawab detain hain ..thats the mentality...History is gone & nobody knows the exact truth..one thing is real the muslim is living in india as long as hindus are there ..I mean its only the conversion which took place in last 1000 yrs...but the people remain same & they hv the same right as everybody hv.
RE:was sivaji a king??
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:33 AM Permalink
i dont hide myself. if my name is golden then i cant help. also how does it matter what the nick is. so many people are even keeping some abusive nick so what? look into the matter and massage. let public read and ponder, thats what we want. as far as your propaganda is concerned, i know lies dont have much chance against truth. yunaan misra roma, sab mit gaye jahaan se, bakee abhi hai lekin, namoon nishaan hamara. ai abrood-e-ganga woh din hai yaad tujhko, utra tere kinare jab kaarvan hamara, baatil se darne waale aie aasmaan naheen hum, sau baar kar chuka hai, too imtehan hamara.
RE:was sivaji a king??
by Mind Clear on Mar 13, 2008 07:41 AM Permalink
Other than Muslims the whole world is 'secular' follows one-law, uniform civil code, gender equality and are excelling in every sphere of life. True Hinduism is secularism and all successful people and nations follow it. Hindus should come out of all kind of distortions of temples, yatras, prayers, pilgrimages, fastings, distorted view of castes and UNIFY themselves to have an Integrated view of Castes (Worker Economist Protector Thinker) and push themselves in Body and Mind to excel in life, work and sports as all Western, Far Eastern, Secular nations are doing. Muslims will continue wasting their life and time in talking nonsense and wasting time in prayers, eating cow not pig, wasting energy in haj, exploiting women by making marriage as prostitution and keep falling behind in talent, knowledge, action, skills day after day and take our their frustrations in violence and bombings. In the 21st century, there is no point fooling people by uttering words like secular, communal, fascist, fundamentalist so on and so forth. We have to find our own inner fulfillment, strength and growth, pursuing real happiness, truth by excelling in work, life, sports communications and various other professions to constantly develop our body and mind, emotions and intellect. There is no point being jingoistic and romantic and deriving any kind of false egoistic value by associating oneself with this person or that religion. Neither archaic religion, nor pseudo modernity can take us anywhere. R
please stop spreading rumors. when the islam came into being again in 6th century, all the followers of islam were thrown into the hardship of the life and they were persecuted till death just because they refuse to worship demi gods. history of early days of isalm in mecca is full of plight of muslims who suffered and gave their life too but were never ready to accept the false way of life. but most of the arrogant and jackal like people who want to hide the truth and kill the reality will never reveal it. i request all the blog readers to look into the historic books to find the truth. also there are no less than 10 million Coptic Christians in Saudi Arabia, their mother tongue is arabic and they are christians by generations. there are plenty of jews too there. their existence is telling that non muslims were never forced to accept islam any where in the world as it is against islamic rule. presence of 80 million hindus in india is proving this fact though there has been 700 years of rule of mughul (muslims) in india. in arab non muslim paid jizia and got shelter and protection by muslims. in one incedence when muslims were not able to protect their fellow non muslims,so they returned the jizia to them. read the history and you will come to know this. jizia is like tax and is much much less than Jakath, sadaqa and khairat. we muslims are being taxed by the govt. so can we say that we are being persecuted by non muslims govt.?
RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:40 AM Permalink
you are reading my message wrongly, as you are a moron for always. where did i say muslim should not pay, they are paying, they are paying all kind of tax, sale tax, income tax, property tax any kind of tax non muslims pay muslims too are paying. in islamic regime only muslims pay the major taxes like jakath, sadaqa, khairaat, etc. but non muslims were asked to pay only jiziya. it is a wrong idea that they were paying this for remaining non musilms. actually jakah and sadaqa were islamic taxes and they cant be forced to pay something mentioned in islam as religious tax. so they were asked to pay jizia as a good citizen. in india too muslims are being asked to pay so many taxes, has any muslim denied to pay that? please dont misguide the public. I REQUEST ALL THE BLOG READERS TO LOOK INTO THE AUTHENTIC HISTORY AND DONT GO BY RUMORS AND FALSE PROPAGANDA.
RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:51 AM Permalink
muslims will what ever you call a hindu tax or any thing.remove all other tax from muslims. all the tax, income tax, sale tax, property tax etc. also make sure that muslim pay less tax than hindus and we are ready to pay the anti-jizia tax or what ever you call it. because that's was happeing in islamic regime at that day. and perhaps you dont know that today non muslims enjoy in muslims land more than any other place. in dubai there is no tax at all. one of my friend went to dubai and his salary is withoutany tax. actually tax is to run the govt. and today dubai govt. dont need money from foreign nationals to run their govt as they earn sufficinet money fromtheir inmates. so every one coming from outside country has tax free income be it hindu or muslim. look in the correct informaiton. only a true liar will deny this fact.
RE:RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:58 AM Permalink
what happened? you dont have any sense then why you came in the blog. go and learn something. you neither have any intelligence to know the facts not any nor any honesty to accept the truth.so finaly you are doing exactely what a mindless person does, start abusing. sorry i dont want to answer your this illogical messages.
Only an Islamic jerk can question Tax rules, why they are there, and miss the moot point, MUSLIMS DO NOT HAVE TO PAY TAX FOR THEIR RELIGION, AS MUSLIM UNLEASH JIZIYA!
RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by Yash Bhatnagar on Mar 13, 2008 07:51 AM Permalink
Tathagata Mukherjee please stop behaving like a big bully in a school yard with no brains. Respond to the logic and the debate - all the hatred you have for Islam and people who follow that religion is nauseating. Can not believe that if you are a real Hindu you would have so much venom against another religion. You definitely belong in an asylum. You are a real dhabha - a blot - on our secular state.
RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by kalki on Mar 13, 2008 07:47 AM Permalink
aye wat u mean when islam 'came into being again'...where was it before that...don't give me some jackass ans...if muslims are so persecuted...why dont u people leave kashmir...it is the land of the hindus...y u dont share any tear on that moron as usual
RE:RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by kalki on Mar 13, 2008 07:50 AM Permalink
now I understand y their is no intoxicating things not allowed in islam...cause these guys need no education and no intoxication(:)??)..they are mindwashed that neway..I feel so sorry and so frustrated for them....
RE:RE:RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:56 AM Permalink
you must feel sorry for yourself. i feel pity of your understanding. how easily you are writing these things without any knowledge what you are actually writing. education and intoxication..... it may be same for you but not for us. or may be you have some problem with english. please look into the dictionary you will know the truth. i dont hold your religion responsible for your idiotic message but you must look into it and see if you can improve yourself, otherwise others may get misguided by your nonsense message and may think something bad for your religion. i am really sorry for you.
RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by Danial Fakih on Mar 13, 2008 08:29 AM Permalink
I don't worth Mukharjee to answer ..He is an idiot & ignorant too .Who dosn't understand a bit of world politics neither the religions.
RE:please stop spreading rumors.....
by shiva on Mar 13, 2008 08:31 AM Permalink
Read my post above.Islam is a Myth.Phrophet business with Arab tribal flavour.GOD is universal not bound by Arab culture.
RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:27 AM Permalink
we dont need any butcher to lead the muslims, we need someone who has at least image of Propher (SAWS) who will be kind like him and merciful like him as well as a wise administrator like him. it is impossible to get someone like him but some one resembling his quality is expected.
RE:RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by kalki on Mar 13, 2008 07:59 AM Permalink
u dont need no butcher to follow because u follow the ultimate butcher :)..y u cry then when some small time bucther slices ur ass :)
RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by kalki on Mar 13, 2008 07:56 AM Permalink
do u ever introspect..if u say modi is butcher than wat u call ur popat...butcher factory..maybe abatoir..since u seem to have knowledge about things ur ar above the madrrassa guys..u can influence them more now...good for u man but dont cry when we star killin in the name of our dharma to weed out saitans...ur popat taught u guys this..he must be suprised if he was living that his politically thingking caused so much havoc when wat he was preachin was peace(sic)...with a sword on his side lest somebody did not like his teaching...so much for peace..
RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by maranare nambi on Mar 13, 2008 07:37 AM Permalink
hi golden you call modi a butcher!!! and calling muslim people peace loving!!!! this is the first joke i am reading in the net today. that is the only religon which made gang rape and human(non belivers of their religion) killing a religious ritual in its own text!!!!
RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by Golden on Mar 13, 2008 07:45 AM Permalink
MUSLIMS DONT RAPE. GO AND SEE THE HISTORY. EVEN TALIBAANS ONCE ABDUCTED A LADY WHO WAS SPREADING CHRISTIANITY IN THE NAME OF SOCIAL SERVICE, CAME OUT OF CAPTIVITY AND FINALLY ACCEPTED ISLAM. WHO FORCED HER TO DO THIS. SHE DID NOT ACCEPT ISLAM WHEN SHE WAS UNDER CAPTIVITY. SHE ONLY STARTED READING QURAN AFTER HER RELEASE AND CAME TO KNOW THE REAL ISLAM. SHE EMBRACED ISLAM AND TOLD THAT IF A LADY IS CAPTURED BY A MUSLIM, SHE CAN BE MURDERED OR KILLED BUT CAN NEVER BE RAPED. I THINK AN IDEA DELIVERED BY A LADY WHO WAS ONCE CAPTURED BY MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISTS IS MORE PROMINENT THAN YOU IDEAS. THE FACT IS 2/3 OF THE TOTAL PEOPLE WHO REVERT TO ISLAM ARE WOMEN. HOW COME? ONLY BECAUSE MSULIMS RESPECT WOMEN AND PROTECT THEM. THEY GIVE SHELTER TO THE WOMEN AND ASK THEM TO GUARD THEIR MODESTY.
RE:RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by kalki on Mar 13, 2008 08:05 AM Permalink
u talkin about the christian monitor journo..she was forced without being forced..if someone is talking nice with u with a ak47 or watever and telling u to read koraan and telling that there is nothing wrong in it..it is good..become muslim..wat will u do? come to ur pappa assholla i will show u the same liberty with my religion and u will come out converting to my religion...when will u guys come out of this haze..it is worse than intoxication...atleast when ur are intoxicated u try to love everybody...stop reading hate manual start drinking beer ..take my word for it..u will be far more blissed...
RE:Man this Modi Rocks.
by Cecilia on Mar 13, 2008 10:16 AM Permalink
you must be kidding go see in the arab coutries hpw many children working as slaves in houses are being tourted and raped so they are not mus
