Muslims Rulers were very secular and have given rights to everyone without any reservation. Thats is the reason why We, the Indian people, did not revolt or overthrow Muslim Governments, as we have done with the Britishers. It shows clearly that PEOPLE WERE HAPPY AND CONTENT.
If one reads the History with unbiased mind, will find out that our Ancestors were known to be generous and Just. See around you, Tajmahal, RedFort, QutubMinar, Charminar and various other Tourist attractions that still contributes to nation's revenue until today. Isnt it amazing ??
As far as BJP/RSS/VHP are concerned, they are the biggest threat to our Nation.
RE:RE:The Fact
by Another Indian on Mar 07, 2008 02:19 PM Permalink
Yeah, mughal leaders where so secular they had jisiya tax. They destroyed 5000 temples. All these are secular acts of mughals. By the way Shivaji was best friend of aurangazeb. People were happy and content with mughal rule that they started supporting british when they invaded.
RE:The Fact
by Ashok Gupta on Mar 07, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Pl. dont fool yourself and others.History is a record of the past and good or bad it must be accepted. One can learn and not repeat the bad our ancestors did - no need to feel guilty either since the living generation did not commit those acts. Why are you trying to hide what are facts - accept it and say sorry if you must on behalf of your ancesors but dont deny.
RE:RE:The Fact
by Kiran K on Mar 07, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
Secular(?) Aurangjeb murdered following people 1] Dara Shukoh his own brother 2] Muajjam his own brother 3] MirjhaRaje Jaisingh his own sardar 4] Dilerkhan his own sardar 5] Guru Tegh Bahadur 6] Bhai Matidas 7] Two innocent children of Guru Govindsingh 8] Chahtrapati Sambhaji
Secular(?) Aurangjeb destroyed following temples 1] Kashi Vishwanath temple two times 2] Mathura KrishnaMandir 3] other 3000 thosand temples.
Secular Aurangjeb fought with Marathas for 26 years from 1682 to 1707 staying at Khuldabad but could not capture Maratha territory. As soon as he died, Maratha captured all area upto Delhi till 1740. Maratha captured Delhi, Lahore, Rawalpindi in 1760 to 1762. Secular(?) Muslim rulers thrown by Hindu Rulers.
RE:The Fact
by kishore baliga on Mar 07, 2008 07:00 PM Permalink
By the Last Sentence colclusion, u have itself given an indication that u urself are pretty secular, why u have not mention SIMI/ISI/AIJC ( All India Jihad Commitee ), what ever Mughal rulers have given, they have snatched from ths soil itself, and where of utmost Indian origin...
RE:The Fact
by Bharat Engineer on Mar 07, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
Please get your history right, Mr. Mohammed. Probably your name would've been different, if your ancestors were not forcibly converted to Islam.
RE:The Fact
by ramanag on Mar 07, 2008 02:34 PM Permalink
Aurangzeb executed Tegh Bahadur, the ninth guru of sikhism, for not converting to Islam. Aurangzeb demanded that all Kashmiri brahmins to convert to Islam. In his regin many temples were destroyed and replaced by mosques. Far from being secular he was a fundamentalist.
RE:The Fact
by apurva singh on Mar 07, 2008 02:57 PM Permalink
wow what an idiot. firstly you are from the breed that failed to protect your women form muslims. thts why you are mohd momn. sec, india was in constant turmoil. dimwit, have you heard of rana pratap, sivaji and gobind singh??
RE:The Fact
by mohit gupta on Mar 07, 2008 02:57 PM Permalink
In mughals, the rule of akbar, jahagir and shah jahah was secular one. there was no jaziya for hindus and every religion enjoyed equal rights. on the contraty, before akbar, babar converted/killed lots of indians and started the malpractise of jaziya. Also, after shah jahan, auranzeb again started the oppresion of hindus.
so, in total, mughar empire had both good and bad for india.
after auranzeb, the mughals became weak because of their internal fightings, which britishers took advantage to first capture bengal and then other part of india.
Since the protest was from Muslims, the authorities cancelled the exhibition. But, if it was against Hindus, there would not have been any such gestures. So much for "Secularism". Wonder where people like Teesta Setalvad, Shabana Azmi, Javed Akhtar, et all are and why no comments from them!!!
RE:Controversy puts an end to Aurangazeb exhibition
by Muhammad on Mar 07, 2008 01:34 PM Permalink
@ hebbar
come on dude we muslims are the votebanks of the politicians, they can't go against us, we r so valuable for them.....
dude relax....this is a sad fact of our country..i do agree wiht u but out here on the forum all we can do is pay lip service and go back to our work..
RE:Controversy puts an end to Aurangazeb exhibition
by venu gopal on Mar 07, 2008 02:04 PM Permalink
whoever supports Aurangzeb are traitors of this nation kyon ki history aur sabh experts bolte hai ki woh yek worst ruler tha. if Hindus have less memory you ask any Sikh or Marathi they will tell you tons of stories.
RE:RE:RE:Controversy puts an end to Aurangazeb exhibition
by venu gopal on Mar 07, 2008 02:05 PM Permalink
pls stop bringing thakrey family here. aur yeh log bhe not good for India
RE:Controversy puts an end to Aurangazeb exhibition
by Deepak MA on Mar 07, 2008 03:08 PM Permalink
If you remember Zubair, There were protests of some cartoons drawn by a Danish, and a Dutch film maker was also killed!
the most comforting factor for once was that there was no violent protest over this exhibition..and i hope it stays that way
Having said that the court should allow the exhibition to continue.
this is a dangerous trend and it needs to be nipped in the bud..we need a law which upholds the right of an artist to creative freedom, but ofcourse within limits (referring to M. F. Hussain who crossed boundries of creative license)
RE:history needs to be
by S Kiran on Mar 07, 2008 01:16 PM Permalink
it is good that you agree that the exhibition should continue.
It is high time that all minorities realize that the so called secular parties are not benefiting minorities by paying lip service. They are creating more and more hatred. Actually, much more than what Thackery's can achieve. The spineless media is a party to this. Congress/commies have been playing the minority card since independence. Have they done anything for them? Certainly not. So, instead of playing this minority card, why not have all inclusive policies where religions/castes are private subjects?
RE:history needs to be
by Muhammad on Mar 07, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
@ kiran
i agree that the exhibition should continue so it would educate the masses and the muslims should learn to differentiate between what's good and bad for them.....they can't keep running around trying to ban/block anything that offends their sensibilities....and in this case i don't see what gets them so worked up. maturiy is the need of the hour for us all indians...
RE:history needs to be
by Ashok Gupta on Mar 07, 2008 02:36 PM Permalink
Wish more and more people thought like you good shows you are progressive and mature.
RE:history needs to be
by Another Indian on Mar 07, 2008 02:21 PM Permalink
There were no violents protests in TN because muzzies know they would be butchered if they do violent protests in TN.
RE:history needs to be
by Ashok Gupta on Mar 07, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
The citizens of Chennai are more matured and calm compared to certrain places in India. They wish to live in peace and prosperity.
