Mad kashmiri mullahs think it is their terror tactics that bends stupid Indian govt. It's Indian heartland votebank silly. Once Hindus unite and vote unitedly, any govt. will take away article 370 and the rest that comes along with it. Funny, mad mullahs don't realize their achievements all over the world, including pakistan,palestine,iraq,iran,sudan....list goes on and on and on....
lot of pandits who did not leave kashmir are happy and they were never threatened by militants.if u keep them in security zones,i am sure they wont be attacked but it will make others feel that they are the only ones who are torcherd by indian army.it would have been better had they not left kashmir and supported our cause.we welcome them back,but india has to leave kashmir one day coz kashmir is of kashmiris irrerspective of the religion.there were never communal roits in the history of kashmir b,coz we believe in kashmiriyat which is more than religion for us.
RE:bad policy
by anayat ahmed on Mar 04, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
the cause is freedom from india and pakis,in plain and simple words.by the way what is unislamic if we dont want be with india.kashmiriyat means people from all religions,poor,rich living together.not separate colonies what u live like.i know india more than u,dont teach me.we will fight for our freedom and india has to leave kashmir one day.same like british left india.
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by Sunil Nayak on Mar 04, 2008 10:02 PM Permalink
But Imran...go anywhere in India or any other part of the world...you will find muslims in Ghettos..look at palestine, birmingham, ahmedabad, delhi, detroit...where do you want to look...its all the same.
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by imran patel on Mar 04, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
No Nation is perfect.
But that does not mean we form small countries.
People are killed in Pakistan, which is a "MUSLIM" country...
Woman are raped in Middle-eastern countries...the birth place of our prophet (PBUH).
Do you know that the refugees from Iraq are forced into prostitution by their ARAB "Brothers" in Syria, Egypt and Jordan.
So don't give me this crap about "MUSLIM-PURITY". Islam is a great religion, but we Muslims are pathetic followers of that religion.
If you think that this is such an Islamic cause, why can I, a Muslim, not live in Kashmir or in Mecca or in Medina...Just because I do not have Kashmiri Blood or Arab Blood ???
Since when did ALLAH start distriminating between Kashmiri Blood, arab blood or Indian blood...
Please do not call this an ISLAMIC struggle, because it is NOT.
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by Sunil Nayak on Mar 04, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
The British did not own Kashmir and neither do any third grade antinational muslim. It belongs to India and Indians. It is there. Try now if you wish. Your grandfather and your father have tried. you can try a few more generations...Its your pleasure.
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by Sunil Nayak on Mar 04, 2008 10:16 PM Permalink
Imran..This line of argument is not wrong...you guys do it all the time..all over the world....A nation gives shelter to you and you screw them upside down..they give you food and human rights...but you want only shariat...My line of argument is a huge understatement...My message is Be Good before it is too late...learn to live with other religions and cultures...Life is more than some stupid identity.
RE:bad policy
by Attatar Yena on Mar 04, 2008 10:37 PM Permalink
Hey Vera, dont blame religion and all teh followers. This ahmed is a Pakistani mothafuka. Ignore him.. Har har Mahdev
RE:bad policy
by Attatar Yena on Mar 04, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
anayat, There is a difference between desire and reality - if you have not noticed. Kashmiris be it muslims or pundits do not have the guts to standup and fight ... because they are cowards. And cowards can only desire because reality is something they cannot change. I am calling pundits cowards because they did not have the guts to standup and fight .. came running to Delhi at the first noise of gunshots... Kashmiris are lazzy people who want to survive on grants and subsidy. My brother is serving in Kashmir so I do have some first hand informaion. I feel that people of Kashmir do not deserve Kashmir they should be sent to Sahara desert ...then they will probably stopwhining... Kashmir belongs to India... this is reality and everything else is just a desire bordering on fiction. So anayat , it is better for the likes of you accept this reality unless you want to be with your houries very early..
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by anayat ahmed on Mar 04, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
u must from be a hindi speaking person from up,bihar.thats why u r information is wrong.is ur brother sweeper in army.
RE:bad policy
by aandhi on Mar 04, 2008 11:28 PM Permalink
Imran It is good to read people like you in his forum or for that matter in any forum.But unfortunately there are people like Anayat who have become the face of your community by bringing Islam in any discussion inflicting more harm that religion. I as a Kashmiri Hindu does not share his views about Kashmir's separation from India. I am an Indian and would like to die as an Indian. Why should I join people like Anayat to separate Kashmir from India against my wishes? Anayat is a fool to suggest me to support his cause, which in fact is quite opposite to my cause. This is where Islam is made to get a bad name by people like Mr. Anayat. I pray to almighty to bestow good sense to people like Anayat before they are wiped out of this universe. Any ways, Mr. Imran I have always loved to read your posts on different matters. any country can be proud to have people like you. God bless you Mr. Imran.
RE:bad policy
by Deepshikha Kulkarni on Apr 25, 2008 02:11 PM Permalink
i agrre with you mr imran and aandhi. i just wish that people like ammanat do not get success in their wrong causes. but i think we should also try to educate people on this matter. i do not understand why these people have problem with India. India has never tried to kill their culture. not only kashmir all states in India enjoy their freedom to keep their cultures. then where is the problem. these guys are just brainwashed by some people that India has forcibly taken control over kashmir. i request these people to please go and study some history. Kashmir was always in India. if these people live with love and peace why army will target them? are they fool to live in such unfavourable condition ? if these people leave weapons and accept that they are Indian it will be peaceful.
RE:bad policy
by shreepad deshpande on Mar 04, 2008 09:46 PM Permalink
Who the hell you are !! Who gave u right to say that Kashmir will be detache dfrom India. Kashmir was and will always the part of India. By nature you are supporter of Pakistan, why havnt u left India yet !! If you and people like you really dare to dream of seperated kashmir then go outof India and be ready to fight for it.
And about Pandits, can you figureout how many Muslims are killed in Terrorist Attacks? Terrorists always Attacked Hindus including Sikh Brothers.
Keep One thing in mind, one day we will have pakistan Back in India.
RE:bad policy
by Sunil Nayak on Mar 04, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
I think that our government should give them Arms training and give arms to defend themselves. Secondly they should be given free land where they can do farming and support them with the latest technology for same. Something similar to what Israel is doing. Actually the muslim population is lazy and good for nothing over there. They are simply living on free grant of the Indian government which I think is bad policy. They have been unnecassarily pampered like the muslims in the rest of India.
RE:bad policy
by Sunil Nayak on Mar 04, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
Imran, have you ever gone to kashmir...The muslims over there..what work do they do...who gives them milk,vegetables, meat at super-subsidized rates...and for what? to raise stupid issues like Kashmiriyat...One strong leader is what it takes to finish this nonsense...Lets wait..we are all going to witness what is going to happen in the near future. Why speculate on the mental condition of anyone???
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by anayat ahmed on Mar 04, 2008 09:49 PM Permalink
we have got the lowest poverty ine and highest income.it is not bcoz of grants u bloody fool.india has to leave kashmir one day.
RE:bad policy
by Fried Yakov on Mar 04, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
Imran, I am glad we have you here. You are the most sensible Muslim guy I have probably interacted with in my life. I can only wish you luck and hope that you can make more of your co-religionists as sensible and reasonable as you. Mr. Ahmed the poverty line is low because there is so much government subsidy in Kashmir. If you say Kasmhiris have the highest income, I am sure you are living in a fool's paradise. May I ask you where you got this info from? Only if article 370 is removed will you feel the pinch of the market. The hopeless Congress does not have the guts to do so, so we have to listen to your taunts. Open up Kashmir to Indians and you will lead a much more competitive and efficient life.
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by Attatar Yena on Mar 04, 2008 10:38 PM Permalink
Imran , good point man. I will grant that to you. India needs more like you.Keep it up
This is the worst policy that the government could have come up with.
Kashmiri Pandits have a right to return back to Kashmir. But living in areas exclusively for Pandits is not the best option. This will result in segregation and social unrest.
The government should encourage Kashmiri Pandits to return and live in places of their own choosing. This is the downside of "Centralized" planning.
They must be given a ONE-TIME relocation package. This must not result in special reservations for Kashmiri Pandits.
I aim should be to make them part of the Kashmiri society once again.
Politicians always come up with a way to make things worse.
RE:Bad policy....
by Chris on Mar 04, 2008 09:43 PM Permalink
Why not special rservaions for Kashmiri Pandits in kashmir ? After all, the Pandits are a minority in Kashmir. Don't the Muslims get all kinds of minority reservations all over India, thanks to Womanmohan Singh and Phonyia Gandhi's Congress government ?
RE:Bad policy....
by Fried Yakov on Mar 04, 2008 10:07 PM Permalink
Imran, I am glad we have you here. You are the most sensible Muslim guy I have probably interacted with in my life. I can only wish you luck and hope that you can make more of your co-religionists as sensible and reasonable as you.
RE:Bad policy....
by JGN on Mar 04, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
Mr. Imran Patel, sitting in the comfort of air-conditioned rooms we all can preach. About a couple of years back I had met a Kashmiri Hindu working at Vadodara. He told that they have no intention to return to Kashmir and are settling down at Vadodara instead. So much for the protection being provided by the Government/s!!!!!!!!
RE:Bad policy....
by Sunil Nayak on Mar 04, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
Actually I think that every Indian should get the right to settle in Kashmir, Purchase land, marry kashmiri woman, and also they should be given licenced firearms to defend themselves. I think then any part of India will be in safe hands...Indian Hands.
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by anayat ahmed on Mar 04, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
ha ha ha.writing colums doesnt mean u have guts.u know these things are impossible for u,why dream.but for us we can do that.ha ha ha.
RE:Bad policy....
by Attatar Yena on Mar 04, 2008 10:47 PM Permalink
Forget Kashmir anayat worry about Pakistan less you guys lose that too...hahahaha LoL...
RE:danish cartoons
by sreekanth vemula on Mar 04, 2008 09:16 PM Permalink
Dude, What the hell is wrong with you. Are you sure about these cartoon being printed in Danish newspapers?? I guess you are not. Denmark is a peace loving country. Immigrant turks have become a huge burden for the Danish Social Security system (they consume 85% of resources). Hence, there is some sort of negitivity among danish people about Islam and its principles. Most of the pictures you have are never been published in Denmark. Check your facts before going around and spreading the message. Muslims in Denmark enjoy more religious freedom than every where else in the world. I beg you to be responsible....
The prime minister is a Sikh. When Singh took over, he said something has to be done, and he followed up. BJP can claim that it is protector of Hindu etc. But never made an attempt to accommodate the refugees of Kashmir.
RE:Some action is taken because
by KK on Mar 04, 2008 08:45 PM Permalink
Like Congress uses pleases Minorities to get votes.Similarily BJP uses Pundits issues for getting hindu votes on solidarity. All is the Game of Politics. But a good begininng has set by the Present Kashmir Govt to rehablitate the Pundits.
