What do we talk about our honorable PM , The idea of secularism , patriotism seems to fashionable words and reduced to mere slogans . The decay in congress party was understandable , because the party is being lead by a "Italian" and followed by bunch of jokers who think the word "loyalty" refers to being spineless , speechless follower of a person rather than the people who have elected them or to the nation which has reposed trust in them . Madam Soniaji this is where being a Indian matters , that is why you can never think like an Indian . Coming to our prime minister and his bunch of confused ministers who day in day out talk about national welfare , This month we had two things to be proud of and one thing to sad about ..and we found the govt found wanting Things to be proud of a ) Decade of testing our nuclear capabilities ..Little buddha smiling ...Govt didnt even bother to mention it b ) Silver jubilee of us winning world cup ....forget about BCCI honoring these men ...Govt too busy with coalition politics
Sad About ....Sam "Bahadur" Manekshaw's demise ...The man who in uncertain term won a war in such a short time ....In world history of modern warfare after world war II there has been no war which has been so decisive in its verdict .. it's given us something to be proud of after the debacle with Chinese in 1962 ...and we dont even find Mrs Sonia or PM or defense minister even present for his last rites ....Looks like we are one thankless nation
RE:Thankless Government
by dinesh kumar on Jul 01, 2008 12:35 AM Permalink
is the congress led by an italian or an indian? is everyone who votes for the congress less patriotic than shekar k? can shekar k be recommended for the super patriot medal?
RE:RE:Thankless Government
by balaji ramani on Jul 01, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
well Dinesh,
Sekar would not get the medal even if YOU recommend him. On the contrary, YOU would get the medal for being such a staunch supporter of Congress-I(Italian).
P.S.: I refuse to call it the INC because it was Indira Gandhi who changed the name of Congress-I (The Mahatma anyways wanted the INC dissolved soon after independence)
RE:Thankless Government
by Prince Roy on Jul 01, 2008 12:55 AM Permalink
well balaji, its shame on indians if they've elected an "Italian" instead of an "Indian". shame on those who didn't cared to vote as if their opinions didn't mattered.Lastly, get out of this "I'm ruled by a foreigner" attitude,it's just a matter of looking at things, how come Sonia has been given green flag by Indian constitution. Personally, i feel what people what it should be respected. even then you feel that you are betrayed take a gun and march in the streets and start killing everyone, but first start with your family.
RE:Thankless Government
by Munish Oberoi on Jul 01, 2008 10:02 AM Permalink
roy or whatever u have a fantastic display of ur ignorance, idiocy, foolishness here.
u r asking balaji that if he "feels betrayed he shud taken a gun and march in the streets and start killing everyone but first start with his family" !!!
What logic !!! fantastic logic !!! u have displayed that u were born without brains inside ur skull, ur a&& and head got mixed up.
If balaji feels betrayed, he shud kill the betrayer, why shud he kill his family? did his family betray him? u congi a&&licker roy, it explains why u lick a&&holes - u don't have logic in ur heads.
RE:Thankless Government
by dinesh kumar on Jul 01, 2008 12:53 AM Permalink
atleast,there are no people with links to those who killed the mahatma in the congress. the mahatma also spoke about the benefits of varnashrama. he also spoke about ahimsa,in which case there would be no need for the army.
All these shameless politicians deserve to go to hell......i think that's why they are working day & night to make India hell...by dividing India into OBC, SC/ ST, Hindu, Muslims etc...that arjun singh is bussy making the IITs & IIMs to become hell, lost all his sense in his old age.....
RE:Shameless politicians
by dinesh kumar on Jul 01, 2008 12:39 AM Permalink
i thought that obc sc st hindu muslim existed before 1947. what a misjudgement on my part. are there some criteria or totally no criteria for the reservation category? SHIT. i thought that there will be some minimum basic criteria for the reservation category to the iits and iims. i did not know that it was possible for someone who had studied upto 5th standard to enter iits and iims. i am now beginning to understand ur argument about arjun singh.
MINISTERS AND POLITICIANS DID NOT ATTEND AS DEFENCE FORCES AND PARSIS ARE NOTA BIG VOTE BANK
by sunder rajan on Jul 01, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink | Hide replies
mINISTERS AND pOLITICIANS DID NOT ATTEND SAM BAHADUR'S FUNERAL AS PARSIS AND DEFENCE PERSONNEL ARE A NEGLIGIBLE VOTE BANK PLUS ALL OF THEM FELT DWARFED BY SAM'S GIANT PERSONALITY.ANYWAY THEIR PRESENCE WOULD HAVE POLLUTED THE ATMOSPHERE-GOOD RIDDANCE A SUNDER RAJAN
RE:MINISTERS AND POLITICIANS DID NOT ATTEND AS DEFENCE FORCES AND PARSIS ARE NOTA BIG VOTE BANK
by Kannan SivaramanViswanatha on Jul 01, 2008 12:23 AM Permalink
I fully endorse your stand and share your anguish. It is not a question of honouring the late Field Marshall, he rarely expected such niceties from all these ignoramuses. These guys had a great opportunity to raise their standing in the eyes of Indian public through observance of what I would call "punctilio". All of them fluffed it! What a shame!
RE:MINISTERS AND POLITICIANS DID NOT ATTEND AS DEFENCE FORCES AND PARSIS ARE NOTA BIG VOTE BANK
by dinesh kumar on Jul 01, 2008 12:45 AM Permalink
sunder rajan and sivaraman, we are not a martial nation like the united states, i think u have seen a lot of hollywood movies where people who have participated in murder but with minimum risk to themselves are proclaimed as heroes. when did being a politician make one an ignoramus and pollutes the atmosphere. without the politicians,there is no democracy and no india. do you want a dose of musharraf instead.
RE:MINISTERS AND POLITICIANS DID NOT ATTEND AS DEFENCE FORCES AND PARSIS ARE NOTA BIG VOTE BANK
by Pradeep Sharma on Jul 01, 2008 01:05 AM Permalink
what do you want dinesh. Argumenting everything ??
All we want are leaders who put their life for country and not politicians, does that mean we dont want democracy?
RE:MINISTERS AND POLITICIANS DID NOT ATTEND AS DEFENCE FORCES AND PARSIS ARE NOTA BIG VOTE BANK
by dinesh kumar on Jul 01, 2008 01:09 AM Permalink
enough leaders have put their life for country. some of our youth like criticising the politicians but have no idea about the tasks involved in managing people and their affairs. an example is sunderrajan who thinks that politicians pollute the atmosphere.
Please pass this message to one & all in the Country and the World to highlight the cheapness of our leaders in India.
by S S on Jul 01, 2008 12:09 AM Permalink | Hide replies
What a shame!. Sam, the Bahadur, died a hero, the hero that it he was, the hero that he will always be. He was the savior of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh), he was a great military leader and above all he was a great human being. Our leaders, did not have the time for paying him the last respect. These same scoundrels, will however plan in advance for their funeral pyres and place for their memorials, but could not plan to pay their last respect to a true hero. o Pratibha Patil , the commander-in-chief of the armed forces with all the time in the world: Absent o Hamid Ansari: Vice-president releasing books and writing reviews of books by fellow-travellers: Absent o Manmohan Singh , the prime minister who could do with a bit of the field marshal's charisma and heroism: Absent o Sonia Gandhi : daughter-in-law of the woman the field marshal called 'sweetie': Absent o L K Advani: prime minister in waiting of the party which would like to do to Pakistan what Manekshaw did: Absent o M Karunanidhi and Surjit Singh Barnala: chief minister and governor of the state which Manekshaw had made his home for 35 years: Absent
RE:Please pass this message to one & all in the Country and the World to highlight the cheapness of our leaders in India.
by Lopesh S on Jul 01, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
Politicians may have their reasons. They always do. Maybe, there are issues like protocol. Maybe, this is one way in which 'civil India' shows the armed forces its place. Maybe, this is why we are not as militaristic as Pakistan. Maybe, the knees are just too old to climb the hills. But what about the armed forces itself? o A K Antony: the defence minister 'now behaving like the chairman of the confederation of the armed forces' trade unions: absent 'due to prior political engagements'. o The chief of army staff: absent (away in Russia) o The chief of navy staff: absent o The chief of air staff: absent
STATE FUNERAL? IS THIS ALL THAT THIS COUNTRY COULD GIVE TO THE PROUD SON OF INDIA? SHAME ON YOU .....XZXZXZXZ! WE BOW OUR HEAD IN SHAME FOR YOUR MISDEED!
If this is the state of state funeral, what this rascals will do when sonia or mms dies. All of them have their special air craft but they could not go because they were busy in licking left front and Mulayams feet. Now trying to put rubbish. Public has seen everything. It is a national shame due to or President, Prime Minister,Defence Minister and all the three services chief except army chief as he was out of country. I spit on all of these peoples face
RE:SAM
by SUNDERR KS on Jul 01, 2008 12:01 AM Permalink
Field marshall was real leader who kept the Moral of the Forces and Country High When Uncertainities spread during the War.
These so call politcians arent dont have National any Charector and are not even worth of the dust of Sam's feet.
The ministers are not undrstanding that its a privilege for them to attend the funeral, the whole assembly combined all over India is not upto the standard of the field marshal. They are thinking that they have done hima great service by doing a state funeral
RE:wrong understanding
by Chola King on Jun 30, 2008 11:35 PM Permalink
NEW DELHI: Already under attack over its handling of Sam Manekshaw's funeral, Manmohini Singh faced questions over Field Marshals being kept out of the warrant of precedence that apparently delayed announcement of a state funeral for the iconic former Army Chief.
Though since 1973, three eminent military personalities - SHFJ Mankeshaw, K M Cariappa, and Arjan Singh - have been upgraded to the post of Marshals, yet the Warrant has not included them. The warrant was updated as late as 2007.
As news of Manekshaws death on Friday broke, it was Defence Minister Antony who spoke to PM Manmohan Singh that the countrys first Field Marshal should be given a State funeral keeping his stature and services to the nation, sources said. Our PM is spending sleepless nights thinking about terrorists like Afzal Guru & their well being has no time for our war heroes who put their lives on the line. It is time to stop the circus of Congress by Singh, Patil & clown Lalu.
This is BJP govt. who gave you Nuclear power ststus and pride. They failed to give you high inflation, bofors, advina mountbaiten, partition, loss at china's hands, fool krishna menon, Jail singh broomer, arjun singh fool education minister (churhut), ajeet jogi & amit jogi duo, amarmani tripathi a murderer, Sonia the empress, Manmohan-pratibha-ansari trio stamps, the list is endless want more ? have a face to face meeting with me and I will let you know real history of india for last 60 years. Oh add quattrochi also... Now they are signing NPT and dare not to show the draft of agreement to the people of this country or Parliament. These congresse are cowards and they are the one who have sold and will sell their mother for money and deposit the money in Swiss Accounts.
RE:Don't expect taht great respect from looters of India
by Guest on Jun 30, 2008 11:36 PM Permalink
Since you are bringing up "payment" in this discussion, why don't you start by disclosing how much tattee-full congriss party pays you to live like a beggar all your life??
RE:RE:Don't expect taht great respect from looters of India
by Lalit Sharma on Jun 30, 2008 11:41 PM Permalink
Thanks pal :-) This is my point. Do you know Nehru and Co. in parliament after defeat from china declared " we will take back every inch of motherland from China", These Congressee ruled this country for long but they were not able to take back even "a inch" of our land back from china. they gave away half of Kashmir to Pakistan. They are still afraid of China and do not talk back hard to china about Tawang... They were-are-will be cowards forever.
RE:Don't expect taht great respect from looters of India
by Active on Jun 30, 2008 11:43 PM Permalink
HOW ON EARTH YOU CAN FORGET SUCH HEROIC PEOPLE AND THEIR DEEDS LIKE SATISH SHARMA AND HIS PETROLEUM MINISTRY,ITALIAN TILED SWIMMING POOL OR OUR FRIEND KAMAL NATH AND HIS HOTEL PROJECT IN HIMACHAL BY CHANGING THE COURSE OF RIVER AND DOZENS OF SUCH VVIP'S?
RE:Don't expect taht great respect from looters of India
by Lalit Sharma on Jul 01, 2008 12:11 AM Permalink
dear moderator, keep my that post for consideration for ever. This is what you can do to save your skin from Congressee but this definately shows lack of courage in you and you seems to me like belongs to same breed called Caongress I
RE:Don't expect taht great respect from looters of India
by Lalit Sharma on Jun 30, 2008 11:51 PM Permalink
I have not, I have kept a lot of that for face to face meeting to open the eyes of these ostriches.
RE:Don't expect taht great respect from looters of India
by Lalit Sharma on Jun 30, 2008 11:36 PM Permalink
I am not like you coward who Donthave and get paid by Lalu/sonia clan or any one else. I am a proud citizen of india and I pay my taxes (I can bet I pay my Income taxes many fold then you can think of) and I care for my country. This is my mother land and I have inherited good Sanskar (do you know the meaning of Sanskar, good family, Freedom), I belive you don't. You must be knwoing Minority, OBC, reservation, lootmar, rape etc. and this is why you asked that question. You know noting about our country but you must be aware of Haz Subsidy, you forgot the muslim aggression from persia but you remember Babar.... any thing else. ?
RE:A Pity
by Prasanta Majumdar on Jun 30, 2008 11:44 PM Permalink
forget the leaders, it is duty of the govt. what was supreme commander of the armed forces doing ? adjusting her saree pallu
It is good that the scum of india like pratibha patil, sonia, mannu, anthony, Hamid Ansari, barnala, karunanidhi etc etc didnot attend, Sam has gone in peace, if these ravanas were present it would hv polluted the environment
