I think he is right about Gandhiji. Were the Mahatma still be alive we would not be a bhaiji empire and nehru would be on his knees. I still feel that Nehru had a hand in the Mahatma's death. I mean only nehru and his family stood to gain from his death. Something tells me that there is more to this assassination story than is being told. Godse was merely the trigger, but the whole operation was being run by Nehru.
RE:vaidya is a bhaiji sympathizer...
by Desi on Jun 30, 2008 08:00 PM Permalink
This is the funniest story I have ever heard. WOW! What an imagination!!
You should definitely work for RAW. You see a conspiracy in everything.
RE:vaidya is a bhaiji sympathizer...
by prabhat kumar mohanty on Jun 30, 2008 08:02 PM Permalink
- Actually it was all conspired by Sonia Gandhi to come to power...
Peter Parker just diluted the message a little bit.
No doubt, Gandhi brought us independence and united all Indians minus Musalmaans emotionally first time in history. But, his follies were not less blunder. Biggest problem with him he lead with his ideals not pragmatism. A leader should have ideals but his/her BIGGEST motivation should be what's good for the country. No one answers this question, BIGGEST blunder: Who's responsible for 40% of Pakis left behind on our lands in spite of division of lands. Gandhi own biggest blame and then scum Nehru.
Please don't get me started with scum Nehru. He was power hungry,autocratic, communist anti-Hindu scum who's responsible for economic and other problems we're facing today. He was a communist who hated Hindus. He wore a Hindu name just to grab power. His and his clans' communist economic and foreign policies are the reason why half of world's hungry are Indians. All the ills, sick secularism, poverty, twisting of our history, rise of traitor communists and division of Hinduism on caste lines ( instead of eradicating castes) can be traced to his communist bent and lust of power.
RE:Dumb Gandhi and scum Nehru.
by Bharat Kr on Jul 01, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
You wrote, "No doubt, Gandhi brought us independence...". The fact is that it was Netaji Bose and Indian military brought us freedom. Not Gandhi, read the true history. British would have been thrown out of India by British Indian Army, had they don't leave the country. Read the unclassified reports of British govt.
people here think that it was GnadhiJi who took the decision of partition ....50 years of congress rule..who made their own history books and forced generations to generations to remember only those lines what they wanted...and this way they did not spare even gandhiJi whom they used and threw after taking power from Britishers. Gandhiji never wanted partition. He was back in bihar having holiday when nehru all of sudden called congress meeting in Delhi with help of Patel and Mountbaiten to partition Pakistan away as Jinnah was unstoppable...this was not even jinnahw as knowing that partition is going to happen! In this meeting division of India was decided unanonimously and when gandhiji returned back they just informed him ..did not even care for him. Gandhiji vehmently protested this all. Gandhi was isolated..congress used him for transfer of power from britishers to Nehru and not for independence of India...sucking the chamrism and mass apeal of Gandhi. how one can forget the comment of Nehru on Gandhi..when due to parition violence broke out and Gandhi started his fasting till death to stop violence in Kolkata...when Army chief asked nehru to pay visit to gandhi and stop him from fasting as his condition was critical..Nehru said" Why do you guys bug me always for such useless things..ask Sardar(patel) to make visit.." for all those 15 days nehru never cared for gandhi nor congress ..who saved him..? Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan(fronteir gandhi/Chinab gandhi) who camped with G
RE:Biggest BackStab of History: Betrayal of GnadhiJi by Nehru
by Murli on Jun 30, 2008 06:25 PM Permalink
Khan Abdul Gaffar Khan(fronteir gandhi/Chinab gandhi) who camped with Gandhi and succeeded in stopping the worst violence of India. To this entire period nehru kept on avoiding Gandhiji..Gandhi was badly sidelined by congress..there were no takers of gnadhi..and all pain of this betrayal of Gandhi is wellw ritten by Gandhi himself to jamnalal Bajaj. nehru did not care for gandhi ji even for a while otherwise after partition and especially knowing the communal tension..he should have provided security to gandhiji like he was having for himself..but Gandhi had zero security!!! Congress an nehru poisoned the brains of India for geenrations against Gandhiji becuase they were the people holding the power and politics of India not Gandhi, the scapegoat of so called war of independecne and actually the power grabbing plan of certain elite families of India who wanted to rule somehow...otherwise how one can forget the very first speech of gandhiJi in congress public rally after coming from south africa in which he had called congress a party of power selfish people not fredom fighter...for the first time in the hisotry of congress claps had sounded by real public on any speech...how opne can forget this!
RE:Biggest BackStab of History: Betrayal of GnadhiJi by Nehru
by Anti Islamist on Jun 30, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
Dude, when looking at utter propaganda feeded in indian books, also look at other side... who was 1st education minister of indian ?
you will find a memeber of young turks, who actively participated in Armenian holocaust...
RE:Biggest BackStab of History: Betrayal of GnadhiJi by Nehru
by True Indian on Jun 30, 2008 06:36 PM Permalink
Mr Murli, very nicely put. But i am sorry to say none of your arguments are actually true. Do you have any idea, why Gandhi went on fast. it was not because he wanted to stop violence. two reasons: 1) India should pay a sum of 50 plus crore to pakistan. 2) Gandhi wanted to migrate to pakistan. About second point, no one was stoping him. but paying 50 plus crores was not acceptable. That is the reason, Not only nehru, most of the politicians abondoned him. This is the prime reason why Gandhi was killed. READ AUTOBIOGRAPH OF NATHRAM GODSE. Secondly, if you remember, during Gandhi's fast, atlast when nehru met him, Nehru said - "Bapu aap jit gaye aur main haar gaya." and we lost crores of Rs to pakistan because of Gandhi. oratleast google on assasination of Gandhi you will get lot of information.
Bla Bla--- and all those leaders that Gandhi brought toughener were hate mongers, who contributed with NAzi Germany in killing innocents... with perhaps Nehru and his close underwear frined kim philby proves my point,... Subhash Chandra Bose himself visited and contributed in Waffen SS..... Maulana Abdul Kalam, and his alliance with Faqir of lpi, and with Amin al husseini is no secret ....
one can say, traditional politics never was strong enough to deal with supremacist.. neither it is till today... but comeone, Gandhi was not a Mahatma, rather he bears guilt of pushing millions in mouth of massacre and genocide.... in fact modern Gandhians have also pushed Darfur peoples in mouth of death by its investement in Sudan oil plant...
According to Gandhi, Ramarajya is nothing but the kingdom of God on earth; and a perfect democracy without caste, colour, class and religious prejudices. Ramarajya is a State where there should not be inequalities between the rich and the poor.
RSS's Ramarajya is full of religious prejudices, Caste Hatred, Denial of justice to the weaker section etc.
RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by Anti Islamist on Jun 30, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
Gandhis Ram Rajya was nothing except Islamic Golden period myth... check book entitled 'Gandhi Muslim conspiracy'...
RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by Jay kumar on Jun 30, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
When did you see RSS Ramrajya or Gandhi Ramrajya for that matter?
RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by Die Hard on Jun 30, 2008 06:23 PM Permalink
The following is the status of Ramarajya of Shriman. Modi Maharaj.
Mithapur village (Bavla/Ahmedabad), April 30 As government officials in Ahmedabad put the finishing touches for tomorrow’s celebration of Gujarat Day, at the district’s Mithapur village, Jeevanbhai Meria sat down for dinner with his family: strips of dried meat from a buffalo meant for tanneries. Jeevanbhai is one of the thousands of Dalits — Vankars, Rohits and Valmikis — across Sabarkantha, Mehsana, Patan and Saurashtra, who are poor enough live the life of scavengers. They collect dead animals to provide the hide to tanneries. And they depend on the flesh of the animal for food.
“We eat all dead animals, cow, bulls, buffalo and goats; only the ones which die out of a dog or snake bites are not eaten,” says Jeevanbhai. Carcasses of dogs and cats are not eaten either, but then disposal of those are not done by Vankars and Rohits. “That is done by Valmikis, who also work as sanitary workers,” he says.
“We cut the flesh of the dead animals in thin strips and dry them to preserve them for a long time,” says Chaturbhai Meria, a fellow Vankar of Jeevanbhai.
“Nobody in the village pays us a dime for the disposal of dead animals,” says Jeevanbhai. “But we have to do this. Hum neech log hain na, yeh to karna hi padta hain,” he says without rancour.
“For the skin, the agents from the nearby tanneries visit us and buy the leather,” he says. While the hide of a bull or a buffalo get them about Rs 25
RE:RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by Die Hard on Jun 30, 2008 06:25 PM Permalink
For the skin, the agents from the nearby tanneries visit us and buy the leather,” he says. While the hide of a bull or a buffalo get them about Rs 250 to Rs 300, a good one occasionally gets as much as Rs 500 also.
As for the meat of dead animals, this is what Ambabhai Solanki, a member of Rohit community in Shodhi village in Ahmedabad district says: “We have been eating this for generations. If we refuse, the villagers tell us that it is our duty.”
“We tried stopping this couple of years ago, he added, “but then entire village boycotted us and we had to start this all over again.”
“The community in itself is divided,” says Vaju Parmar, a Dalit social worker from Dholka. “While Vankars and the Rohits dispose the ‘higher animals’ like cows, bulls buffalos and goats and eat their flesh, Valmikis only dispose the dead cats and dogs.”
While denying there is any social pressure, Jeevanbhai says that the higher castes will stop employing them in case they refuse to do this job.
With significant pressure from dominant upper castes like Darbar, Patels and Rajputs, the Dalits refuse to raise their voice, says Parmar. And it appears that with time, things, instead of getting better, are getting worse.
“Earlier, by tanning the hides, these communities could make some money. Now with mechanised tanneries set up by the upper caste industrialists, the community is losing out on that as well,” says Manjula Pradeep, Executive Director, Navsarjan.
RE:RE:RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by Die Hard on Jun 30, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
This issue was confronted by Mahatma Gandhi way back in 1930s, says noted Dalit activist Martin Macwan. “More than seven decades on, there have been no change in the lives of these people. Wonder what development are we talking about.”
RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by satyarthi on Jun 30, 2008 07:37 PM Permalink
The rohit and vankar castes must exercise their right to chose their food. They should educate their children and move upward in social hierarchy.
RE:Gandhiji Ramrajya and RSS's Ramarajya
by raj on Jun 30, 2008 06:19 PM Permalink
well, is congress following gandhi then ? why do they only support minorities at the cost of majority.
This is to inform all of you that we Indians are kept in dark about how gandhi was killed and who all were part of the conspiracy. for your information to name few very important vips were 1) wallabh bhai patel 2) Nehru 3) Veer Savarkar.
Read autobiography of Nathuram godse. and then make any comment. Beleive me congress has totally manipulated whole history in its favour. No one has guts to change it, because a small change in this history is taken as saffronising it.
RE:how many of you really know... how gandhi was killed
by Anti Islamist on Jun 30, 2008 06:22 PM Permalink
this is known as politics my dear, a skill to control masses
RE:BJP - RSS Detahain Bhagwan ko dhoka insaan ko kya chodenge. Killers of Gandhi are crying crocodile tear - Its joke of the millenium. RSS only contribution to freedom strugle of India is killing the leader of Freedom Struggle
by Jay kumar on Jun 30, 2008 06:15 PM Permalink
Inquilaab , You are back again. Remember dude when people were blaming Islam for International Terrorism in the entire world, you were saying not every Muslim is a terrorist.
And in your post now you are claiming BJP_RSS as KILLERS of GANDHIJI.
Do you mean entire muslim comunity is a community of terrorists and suicide bombers.
RE:RE:Gandhi
by raj on Jun 30, 2008 06:24 PM Permalink
lols. check any politician for that matter. people like narsimha rao were even caught with suitcases full of cash hurriedly transported outside the country!
