May be the politicians were playing Vote bank politics and stayed away(Coz he won an war against an islamic nation)...........When Sam jokingly comented that If only I would have accepted Jinnah's offer and moved to Pakistan the outcome of the 1971 war would have been different.............He was very unhappy that the biggest catch of POW's 90000(after WWII) was traded with Pak without any consideration,Indira was in strong position to resolve the Kashmir issue once for and all but she missed the opportunity.......................
RE:Vote bank
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
If India had resolved kashmir problem, the politicians would not have been left with any issue to use during elections! Terrorism, Religion, Caste... all these are hot topics for elections... no one would pay attention to politicians if these cease to exist. Development, Health and Education are non-issues acc. to the powers that be!
BJP, CPM, CONGRESS OR OTHERWISE. IF A POLITICIAN DIE AND GOVT DECLARES MOURING I WILL GO OUTSIDE AND BURST CRACKERS, DANCE WITH JOY AND DISTRIBUTE SWEETS... DEAR COUNTRYMENT PLEASE DO THE SAME....
RE:SHOOT THE GOODAMMED POLITICIANS AND SPIT ON THIER GRAVES....
by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 08:58 PM Permalink
we need to do more than that... more than just burst crackers... we need to clean the shit hole that this country has become
RE:SHOOT THE GOODAMMED POLITICIANS AND SPIT ON THIER GRAVES....
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:05 PM Permalink
I am with u bro! Its time patriotic Indians took matters into their own hands..
RE:SHOOT THE GOODAMMED POLITICIANS AND SPIT ON THIER GRAVES....
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:17 PM Permalink
I agree that revolution does not happen in a day... but what the revolution does culminate very quickly where the old system is over-thrown and replaced with a better system. The discontent of an average indian is already at its peak... the anger is smouldering inside like flammable gasoline... all that it needs is a spark!
RE:SHOOT THE GOODAMMED POLITICIANS AND SPIT ON THIER GRAVES....
by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 09:21 PM Permalink
we need someone to light just much needed SPARK... to ignite the fire... maybe another Netaji.... maybe some among us.... it has to be someone among us... no one will drop out of the blue sky...
RE:SHOOT THE GOODAMMED POLITICIANS AND SPIT ON THIER GRAVES....
by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 09:13 PM Permalink
and the first step is to form an united force... of strength... not arms....
RE:SHOOT THE GOODAMMED POLITICIANS AND SPIT ON THIER GRAVES....
by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
It's the self belief that we CAN do it. We HAVE TO do it. Revolution doesn't happen in a day, it has to grow up. There cannot be instant results. Rang de basanti is not just a movie... its the need... in a mature and determined way though
...so that Popularity of GOOD MEN in this country MAY NOT rise.....
...that's why Sam saab was Cremated within few Hours Only after death occured....While his body shud have been air lifted to 4 metros of Nation for Giving OPPORTUNITY TO GOOD INDIANS to pay tribute to Sam saab
RE:Politicians and 90% Indians are Mothf*krs
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:01 PM Permalink
I agree with u munish... but the people on this board aren't saints either. All of us here are simply armchair warriors who can write long posts, but when the time comes to walk the talk, we chicken out. The real heroes out there are working behind the scenes, like our soldiers defending our borders (whom bollywood and news channels malign under pretext of human-rights violation), or even grassroot social workers, like baba amte (not people like arundhati roy and teesta sh*t-all-wad). People only get leaders they deserve!
RE:RE:Politicians and 90% Indians are Mothf*krs
by Righteous on Jun 28, 2008 09:06 PM Permalink
hi Ryan You are right armchair warriors... ,,,,,BUT EVEN THIS ENLIGHTMENT of FACTS is service to Nation...Sparing time for Nation is not a bad thing....SO PLS DON'NT DE MORALIZE PEOPLE WHO ARE WRITING HERE....PEN me bhi bahot taqat hoti hai...
RE:RE:RE:Politicians and 90% Indians are Mothf*krs
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
I am not being pessimistic my friend I am being realistic. Do you think what we're writing here is epoch-making stuff? Everyone knows politcians are corrupt, everyone knows that reservations are wrong, everyone knows that terrorists can strike us at anytime, everyone knows where our hard-earned money is going!
Everyone knows what the problem is, but who will solve it?
"GHAR KI SAFAI ME HAATH KAUN GANDHE KAREGA?"
Words can only take u so far my friend, action is what is required.... The time for pacifism is at an end.
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by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 09:15 PM Permalink
we have to start it.... the cleaning... from our own self first...
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by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 09:27 PM Permalink
very true - u have to be IN the system to CHANGE the system... yes i agree... but see even Kiran Bedi... she tried and failed... some success and some failure...
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Politicians and 90% Indians are Mothf*krs
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:19 PM Permalink
But u have to be in the system to beat the system... and u cannot survive in this system without nuisance value. If u try to be an agent for a change, you will be nipped in the bud by the powers that be!
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by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 09:16 PM Permalink
i am damned if i paid any bribe to anyone till date... i have not... that is my first step...
RE:Politicians and 90% Indians are Mothf*krs
by Righteous on Jun 28, 2008 08:54 PM Permalink
Munish You are Correct.. ...Even BABAR has narrated in BABARNAMA that Hindustani log ek no ke Baimaan , Badtameez aur Badsoorat hote hain...jo FACT HAI WO RAHEGA REDIFF BOARD ME NAHI TO KAHI AUR RAHEGA....PAR FACT KO KOI NAHI CHHIPA SAKTA AUR NA HI FACTS KO DISTORT KAR SAKTA HAI....
It was probably Sam Bahadur's dying wish not to see selfish politicians/crooks/spin-doctors at his funeral. They would have corrupted the air of purity surrounding the funeral of a great hero.. thanks for not visiting LOSERS!
RE:Dying wish
by Righteous on Jun 28, 2008 08:44 PM Permalink
HI Ryan Pls stop such Emotional or LATERAL comments.....the FACT is that INDIAN PEOPLE HAVE MISERABLE FAILED TO SHOW GRATITUDE, OBLIGATIOn
RE:Dying wish
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 08:54 PM Permalink
I was being sarcastic buddy, next-time I'll make sure I mention that, so people don't think the comment is emotional or lateral. As a matter of fact, it is an absolute shame that we have forgotten our war heroes, and that too the GREATEST WAR HERO, Independent India has produced. We only celebrate terrorists like sanjay dutt who aided the jihadis, and the media is busy reporting plunging necklines and size-zero figures of celebrities and socialites.
RE:Dying wish
by Munish Oberoi on Jun 28, 2008 08:51 PM Permalink
I tell ya maan... Sam deserved to be accompanied by ANGELS in his funerals, not rabid dogs that these politicians are. so angels made it sure that these scums were nowhere near him to spoil the holy atmosphere there.
RE:None of them were invited, so they didn't attend
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 08:57 PM Permalink
I agree with u munish... but the people on this board aren't saints either. All of us here are simply armchair warriors who can write long posts, but when the time comes to walk the talk, we chicken out. People only get leaders they deserve!
RE:None of them were invited, so they didn't attend
by Ryan on Jun 28, 2008 09:09 PM Permalink
we really need the passion of shivaji, bhagat singh and the SC Bose of yester-years... and the vision of Swami Vivekananda.. its high time we dumped Gandhian pacifism into the sewers!
At least the other service chiefs ....of Navy and IAF (as army chief is engaged in a Russia tour). As for others .. Sam Bahadur would be well off without the crooks and spineless politicians attending his last ceremony !
