Kashmir Muslim population should be diluted by scrapping article 370. In India they should live like Indians. There shouldn't be any special status to Kashmir or Kasmiris. Every India hindu or Muslim should have every right in Kashmir as in any other part of India
52 Muslim countries only India Provides Haj Subsidy 52 Muslim countries only India Provides Special Rights 85% Hindus craves for indulgence of 15% minority Show one Muslim country, which has a Non Muslim as its President or Prime Minister Show ONE Nullah or Maulvi who declared a Fatwa against terrorists Maharashtra Kerala Bihar Pondicherry had muslim CM can U ever imagine Hindu CM for Kashmir In 1947 Hindu population in Pakistan was 24% today it is 1% In 1947 Hindu population in Bangladesh was 30% today it is 7% Muslim population in India has gone up from 10.4% to 14% Whereas Hindu population in India has come down from 87.2 to 85% Do Hindus Human Rights??? Are Hindus Fundamentalist?? If Hindus R Fundamentalist how come Madarasas N Masjids R thriving When uniform is compulsory for school children why No Uniform Civil Code for the Citizens?? Abdul Rehman Antulay ws made trustee of Siddhi Vinayak Temple Can Laloo OR Mulayem dream of becoming a trustee of Madarasa or Masjid Can this Happen anywhere Except Hindu Nation BHARATH Jai Hind
RE:Hindus are to be blamed for electing Congress/Secular parties
by imran khan on Jun 28, 2008 09:42 PM Permalink
I appreciate and thank indian hindus and indian goverments' kind gesture towards muslim wrt haj subsidy, muslim personal law,i wish they do it for all.. Muslims i dont think have special rights significantly compared to BCs, SC/STs.But the fact is that economicaly and educationally they are very backward you know... With regards population we are not answrable what the rulers do in pakistan.It is unfortunate we have corrupy govts. whemther it is india/pakistan/bangladesh or any middle eastern country. But the common hindu or muslim has good friends among each other... Well no one said hindus are fundamentalists but there are black sheep in every community..Hope we change themm. With regards maulvis giving fatwas aginst terrorists you might know recentlt big conference of thousands of mullah held in deoband condemning terrorist activities..Telecasted in TV channels too. I am really proud to be indian because this country repects every bodys right tp practise and preach religion.Indeed one of the true democracies. But my friend dont cultivate hatred in yourself against anybody.Raise above that, we should all treat our diseases of herat like hatred, envy, pride, jealousy,animalistic instincts.. let us rflect before death overtakes us when it will be too late... Let us be just to ourself at least and not blindfloded..
All messages on the discussion board are without any comments on the main issue of allotment to shrine board. All talks on some differnt issues not connected to the land allotment.
For centuries pilgrims have been making the arduous trip to Amarnath cave without the benefit of any facilitation by the state
There is a separate Haj cell in the ministry of external affairs. The Haj Committee of India has its own premises in Mumbai. Similarly the State Haj Committees have their own premises in various other Indian cities. These facilities have been built on land provided by the state governments.
Every government in Delhi has ensured that only Muslims are appointed to these posts, a practical decision intended to facilitate their travel to Mecca and Medina, where non-Muslims are not allowed. There is also a separate consul for Haj matters in the Indian consulate general in Jeddah.
Contrastingly charter flights are operated directly from 16 airports in India to Saudi Arabia. Returning pilgrims can transport 10 litres of holy Zam Zam water with them free of cost. At Delhi airport there is a separate Haj terminal. To improve the comfort of pilgrims, Air India has been advised to use wide-body jets in future for their Haj flights.
Immigration formalties are done ar special locations in town and they are directly boarded to aircraft compromising all security norms
For Haj 2007, a contingent of 115 doctors and 141 nurses and other para-medical staff, 3 coordinators, 46 assistant Haj officers, 165 Haj assistants and 186 Khadimul Hujjaj were sent from India on short-term deputation to Saudi Arabia.
Kashmiriyat is the other word for "Islamiyat" (Taqqiya).This land is for Muslims only nobody can come and the rallying call is "Islam khatre me hein", but we will eat free food and enjoy subsidies, and call bandh's everyday to say.. Kashmiris have been neglected and human rights are being violated.
Everybody knows how peaceful musalman are, destroying temples to sword at the throat conversions, slavery and mass slaying in India. But with such a colorful history, the muslaman innocently asks.. why were muslims killed in Gujarat? (nobody even asks what started it and how many Hindus were killed by just the police firing), there was a mysterious fire in the bogey they say.. thats it or) Modi did it to get votes. Bomb exploded in Jaipur, Spain, London,US, Russia, those were all gas cylinders.. or Jews Christians, and Hindus did it themselves, to give "peaceful" Islam and "muslman" a bad name.
Make Lalu Should be made CM of Kashmir/ Mulayam Deputy CM and Arjun Singh Home minister. Hindus will be killed or burned, Then they will be able to run a secular govt. of all muslims
RE:Lalu Should be made CM of Kashmir
by Vish on Jun 28, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
Only problem with your idea Lalu will create problem similar to global warming due to enormous hair on elephant like ears and bushes on his back hole.
do you want Kashmir turned into desert. Sorry, my friend!
Let us all Hindus unite beyond caste and region and declare India a Hindu state, we had enough of nonsense from these muslims, if they can not spare 100 acres land to Hindu piligrims, how do they think that we will allow them to spend our tax money on their joy rides to mecca to throw stones? This barbaric cult should be dealt in a manner different from the gandhian style. Lets teach them what freedom is..let these muslims know the difference of secularism and not having it. They will value us once we curb their freedom,right now they are of the opinion that they can do what ever they want in india with the support of the congress. Congress party is unfit to deal with this situation. Time to wakeup Hindu friends...no more patience, lets not spare these muslims even a minute more or else this is whats going to happen in entire India. First they drove off kashmiri punits and made the valley unanimously islam, started terrorism in the name of freedom, exploding bombs where ever they like and now they started to dare to meddle in our religious matters too. This is too much patience on our part. Lets unite. first thing that we can do is see that congress never comes to power again and no party should dare to hit the sentiment of the majority in a democracy and still fell that it can come in to power with number crunching. Please vote against congress and throw them out, later we can decide how to see that BJP does what it promises to do.
RE:Enough now, Time to shed this secular tag.
by Vish on Jun 28, 2008 09:08 PM Permalink
I totally agree. Ban casteism and declare India a Hindu country.
It should be one of BIGGEST responsibility of every Hindus to reconvert atleast one of converts. We need to start fight against all foreign faiths and ideologies like communists. This is time or else Hindus will be so sorry.
Today one cannot expect any thing better then this.Today in entire india if you see all political parties are looting the tax payers & interested in personal development & not of the country. In the bargaine we have lost our self respect as well as self esteemed. Our leaders have forgotten the same at international level & we at large at our levels. This has indeed benifited our political parties as they are fearless towards its voters. And this will continue till we have war with our politics.
Though muslims enjoy all the benefits in India,but their mindset will always remain communal.If Indian Govt. gives them Haj subsidies they are happy;but if land is given to Amarnath Shrine Board,they shout hoarse.Let them go to Pakistan.Nehru made a big blunder by allowing them to stay in India.
Muslims Should Reject Hajj Subsidy by Indian on Jun 28, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink | Hide replies
The so called Govt Hajj subsidy is if one goes for Hajj through one of the govt hajj agencies then they are offered a subsidy on Air India ticket i.e they are offered a ticket in 12k which is said to be at 32k. Normally the same air ticket to Saudi will cost 22-24k odd. So actually the subsidy is just 12k and it allows Air India to Tap 84 crores in the month of Hajj. So it is mutual benifit tie up which govt portrays as Subsidy, If Air India goes private this no longer would be there and I hope it does soon.
Hajj is obligated on Muslims only who can physically and Financially afford a journey to Saudi else it is pardonable
The bottomline is this, Indian Muslims should reject the subsidized Air India ticket, if not for anything else then for common sense only. Once the Haj market opens and this forced monopoly of Air India goes, I would not be surprised if other airlines start offering discounts to the Hajis. Afterall, which company wouldn’t want to tap in an yearly market in excess of Rs. 350 crores, and that too, just for the airfare.
This will also please the non muslim country men who think that muslims are using countries fund as Govt sponsors their trip to Saudi, the feeling is understandable but the fact on which it is based does not exist there is no subsidy its just a marketing campaign from Air India side.
RE:Muslims Reject Hajj Subsidy
by Vivek Harry on Jun 28, 2008 09:05 PM Permalink
Indian only in name, why should muslims benefit from donations by Amarnath yatris when they do not believe in these Gods, why they want to perpetuate their monopoly over the route, since they do not believe in the God, they should not take money from his pilgrims also. At the same time, you have not spoken that pilgrims should get good facilities, Indians only in name, why should pilgrims live in make shift tents everytime when they are coming every year.
I agree they would get a better deal with private airlines this shrewd business plan by Air India is promoted as subsidy , its not like the individual chopper/helicopter ride that government provides to Hindus on Amarnath Yatra.
RE:RE:Muslims Reject Hajj Subsidy
by Vivek Harry on Jun 28, 2008 09:08 PM Permalink
typical self-serving nature, and ingratitude peculiar to these people in spite of getting subsidy, then why cannot they go by their own private chopper, see thankless people, no need to appease them
