You want Haj subsidies across rest of India. You want Waqf grants to your madrassas and mosques, but cry foul over 99 acres of land in a humongous state like J&K? Shame on your pathetic existence.
RE:Shameless Muslims
by Loan Shark on Jun 29, 2008 08:14 AM Permalink
good point!
I wonder can't amarnath shrine pay for the land? I am sure that serval Hindu organisations will be willing to write a donation check to amarnath shrine to compansate for the land cost.
These Muslims are taking undue advantage of tolerance exhibited by Hindus.First they Converted a big Shiva temple TEJOMAHALAY into a tomb at agra and called it TAJMAHAL.Wife of shahjahan is not Mumtaz, and there is no word mahal in persia or urdu. Now Muslims are bent upon disrupting amarnath yatra. All this is due to muslim appeasement policy of Congress government. UNLESS HINDUS WOKEUP TO REALITY, THEIR CULTURE AND TRADITION IS AT STAKE. WE NEED MORE NARENDRAMODI'S AND THACKERAY'S
RE:Muslims and Hindu temples
by Raj Kumar on Jun 29, 2008 06:02 AM Permalink
Hey, Anand is right, who is doing research of what this past islamic invadors did to hindus.
No body has time for the poor hindus, Even government have no intrest on hindu any more. Politicians are researching more on how to get more vote for there party.
RE:Muslims and Hindu temples
by jay krishnan on Jun 29, 2008 06:03 AM Permalink
Apparently not the Madrassa school that dogs like you go to. I wish I could lay my hands on all those hindu politicians and other selfish upper caste dogs devoid of love for their motherland and eliminate these dogs from the country. First of all eliminate spineless leaches such as that one dog ( Raj something) which was babbling against Narender modi. Then implement uniform civil code all accross the country, even if that means deluging the land with blood. This sacrifice is needed from the brave Hindus if we are to save the country for the sake of common people of all religions.
RE:Muslims and Hindu temples
by Terminator on Jun 29, 2008 07:55 AM Permalink
Not only Taj Mahal but the White House is also a Hindu Temple for Mata Whito Ghar Devi Maa...
The people who write in this forum are not 'bekar' . Rediff should at least inform them why their posts have been taken out !!! It takes time and effort to write . just because some people feel different about an opinion is not enough ground for removing a 'post' whic is not offennsive in nature !!! its against free speach !!!!!!!! it seems that there is gang active out there who are specilized in 'reporting abuse' for any thing against their views.
RE:There are millions of PINKOS (Lefty communist Hindus and other Pseudos) who can defend the religious cause of Muslims..
by satya on Jun 29, 2008 11:19 AM Permalink
Swami-Vivekamanda said in 1890 in parlliament of world relision ; Mohamad was at higher stage relative to an ordinary man but he did,t know how he reached there .He him self accepted that a prophet came and took me in acave where I got knowledge. He did,t follow definite way (yoga;yam ,niyam ,aasan,Prnayam.... )like other great people so he had mixture of knowledge & blemishes . This mixture is now known as Koran .Vivekanand said thatit is clearely written in Koran that if you (muslims) love some one who does not bellong to your relision then try to convert his relision or kill him ....What a holy Koran..
Do you consider this unusual or the outcome of some sudden development?
To be precise, there is a very calculated approach behind the whole scenario, a sinister design to dethrone, deprive or disposes the Hindu community from their last bastions.
To know more log on factusa.org, iakf.org and bengalgenocide.com
Do you consider this unusual or the outcome of some sudden development?
To be precise, there is a very calculated approach behind the whole scenario, a sinister design to dethrone, deprive or disposes the Hindu community from their last bastions.
To know more log on factusa.org, iakf.org and bengalgenocide.org
Now don't you think the balance is more titled towards minoroty apeasment by the government...
Imran Patel:
Q1) Will support the BJP government if it endorses your stand of good governance?
Q2) I remember BJP used to talk about in terms of constitutional changes since long time. And all the people especially Pseudo Hindus use to call BJP a communal party... I think BJP was promoting against this apeasment and even hired a Muslims Spoke person "Maqtar Abbas Naqvi" used to endorse this position. But people still categorized BJP as a communal party..
But if you dig into the details of their agenda I don't see any threat to any minorities.. Rather I see threat to the existence of the Congress part as a whole 'Cos they literally survive by making BJP as communal. Congress is not comfortable nor does it have any daring to stear India to become a Equal Rule of Law country rather than a religious apeasment country...
Imran:
If you oppose BJP can you let us know any specific BJP stands on which you prefer to oppose BJP?
RE:Imran Patel: So if since beginning of time the Govt was wrong in the Religious business...
by Mind Clear on Jun 29, 2008 02:26 AM Permalink
Organized religion is organized madness. Things will go on as usual. All these talk is time waste. The basic difference between Islam and other religions is that the 'State' does not legalize fundamentalism. For all other religions the State mandates, One-Law, Uniform Civil Code & Gender Equality. Christians, Jews, Parsis, Sikhs, Buddhists and Hindus have the same value system in the 21st century; All of them have modernized. They all believe in One-Law, Gender Equality, Uniform Civil Code, Freedom, Democracy and "True" secularism. What matters in life is the intensity of our work and inner fulfillment. Neither archaic religion, nor pseudo modernity can save humanity. People who will continue to succeed, are one's who will cultivate talent, knowledge, action in themselves and in others and seek equality in laws, principles and values. Rest is all waste of time and energy. Every developed country in the world is secular and excel in life, work, sports, performance and productivity.
RE:Imran Patel: So if since beginning of time the Govt was wrong in the Religious business...
by Mind Clear on Jun 29, 2008 02:27 AM Permalink
On June 24, 2008, Chinese authorities in Xinjiang demolished a mosque of the Uighurs for refusing to put up signs in support of this August’s Beijing Olympics, an Uighur exiled group stated. Now, nobody neither the CPI nor the Islamic world raised any hue and cry about the whole thing. It is because China makes sure that it deals with the show of strength. And so do America, Europe, Israel, Japan, Turkey who stick firmly to logical and meaningful secularism of one-law, uniform civil code and gender equality and keeping their focus firmly on life, work, sport, performance and productivity, instead of pandering to time wasting mediocrity. They are not having any meetings to share fresh terror information. India should learn to have clarity and focus in meaningful action, threat perception and premonitions, and learn from history to deal with this. One cannot be endlessly flexible to a stubborn attitude which does not even understand humanity. There is no majority or minority; there is only one humanity with the best of values - one law, uniform civil code & gender equality - as all secular countries have.
He is candid and seems to be knowing law. There is a subtle but important difference beween public property and govt property. J&K govt must answer this issue on larger forum.
RE:Imran Patel sounds more logical
by Kafir Sahab on Jun 29, 2008 02:14 AM Permalink
The Government of India provides an airfare subsidy to about 100,000 pilgrims selected by the Haj Committee of India who go for Haj annually. Pilgrims pay only Rs 12,000 for their air travel. This figure has remained unchanged for at least a decade or more.
According to official figures, this subsidy was Rs 280 crores in 2006, or about Rs 28,000 per pilgrim. Today, with rising fuel prices, this figure would have gone up to Rs 350-400 crores.
There is a separate Haj cell in the ministry of external affairs. The Haj Committee of India has its own premises in Mumbai. Similarly the State Haj Committees have their own premises in various other Indian cities. These facilities have been built on land provided by the state governments.
For Haj 2007, a contingent of 115 doctors (including 63 specialists with post-graduate degrees) and 141 nurses and other para-medical staff, 3 coordinators, 46 assistant Haj officers, 165 Haj assistants and 186 Khadimul Hujjaj were sent from India on short-term deputation to Saudi Arabia.
Perhaps our self-righteous and petty Kashmiri politicians in India's only Muslim-majority state should reflect over these facts and tell us whether they think it is at least their moral if not political obligation to be more caring and sensitive to Hindu pilgrims visiting Amarnath. If we can do so much for Indians going on a pilgrimage abroad, should we not be able to do as much if not better for pilgrims at home?
These Kashmiri muslims brain washed by their so called holly book, want to create problems always like any other place in India. The govt of Kashmir has allocated the govt land for construction of accommodation for the pilgrims. What way this is a problem for ordinary Kashmiri muslim? Now there are no Hindu left in Kashmir valley. Then whom these muslims will trouble? That is why this pretext is. There are so many cases of govt land being used by Muslims in so many other parts of India. Anybody is protesting? Whoever reads this quran will be like this only. Be it Kashmir, be it other parts of India, be it Pakistan, be it Bangladesh, Afganistan, Iraq, Libiya, UK, France, US, Chechnya etc. It should be dealt with stern action like in UK, USA, Chaina and USSR.
RE:Quran readers will be like this only
by jay krishnan on Jun 29, 2008 06:20 AM Permalink
Don't blame others sweetie. Do something about it if you can, otherwise tuck your tail in between your ass and sit quietly and continue to type comments on rediff. Don't keep complaining against others. If you feel strongly that it is wrong and then take action and lead us to a solution. Just don't be a cry baby, ok ? I think your likes have done that enough and brought this country to the state it is now.
