USA has created Islamic Terror: 1) Jimmy Carter created Muzzahadins in Afghanistan 2) Reagan created Zia Ul Haque and Ben Laden 3) Clinton created Taliban 4) Clinton created Islamic state of Bosnia 5) Pakistan created 9/11 and got rewards from USA of $10 Billion so far plus all free weapons 6) George Bush created another Islamic state of Kosovo. 7) USA pushed up oil prices to make the Arab Skeikhs fantastically rich.
Thus, USA will not help India. Obama's father and step father are both Muslims. Those who are thinking just by surrendering India's nuclear weapons USA will be India's friend are the worse kind of stupid.
RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by mahe on Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
9/11 was not done by Pakistan it was an 'inside-job' by the US. Please check out the research done by US Nuclear Physics professor, Steven E Jones. Also read the books by famous American theologian, David Ray Griffin, titled The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11; he 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions And Distortions (2005); Christian Faith and the Truth Behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action (2006). I request you to search for truth and not propagate falsehood, even tough the truth is too bitter to swallow
RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:29 PM Permalink
Ahmed Omar Sayeed Sheikh before the Sept. 11 attacks, Sheikh wired $100,000 from Pakistan to Atta from an account in the United Arab Emirates capital of Dubai. Sheikh was spotted in Islamabad at the time the money was transferred.
The $100,000 covered the hijackers' flight-school tuition and airfare, as well as living expenses. Sheikh picked up an unspent residual of more than $25,000 from Atta and three other hijackers in Dubai right before the attacks, then fled back to Karachi, Pakistan.
The 28-year-old Sheikh is a leader in Pakistan-based Jaish-e-Mohammed (J-e-M), an Islamic militant group. Its founder, Mohammad Masood Azhar, aka Maulana Masood, is closely linked to bin Laden.
In fact, bin Laden is understood to have helped fund the well-financed, well-organized J-e-M, making it al-Qaida's arm in Pakistan. J-e-M also runs terrorist training camps in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir.
RE:RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:30 PM Permalink
According to accounts in both The Times of India and India Today, former ISI chief Lt. Gen. Mahmud Ahmad instructed Sheikh to send the $100,000 to Atta.
"A direct link between the ISI and the WTC attack could have enormous repercussions," the Times article said. "The U.S. cannot but suspect whether there were other senior Pakistani Army commanders who were in the know of things."
It added: "Evidence of a larger conspiracy could shake U.S. confidence in Pakistan's ability to participate in the anti-terrorism coalition."
The Times says Ahmad lost his job only after India shared with the FBI evidence showing a link between the general and Sheikh's wiring of funds to Atta.
J-e-M's accounts were frozen not long after Dennis M. Lormel, director of FBI's financial crimes unit, confirmed the $100,000 transaction, if not the source.
"They wired over $100,000 into Mr. [Mohamed] Atta a year ago," he testified in October, not identifying who "they" were.
The Bush administration has said the money trail is a crucial link in uncovering the support network for the 19 hijackers, and then destroying that network.
However, a major hub of that network is in Pakistan, and it's still active, as India learned, tragically, last month.
Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf has banned J-e-M and arrested Azhar. But Azhar is not the only terrorist on India's list of wanted terrorists from Pakistan.
RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by mahe on Jun 25, 2008 12:37 PM Permalink
All this information has been circulated by the US media to cover up the its own crime. On the day 9/11, in the afternoon Predident Bush says he saw the first plane hit the WTC on TV that morning, when in fact the first video the first plane hitting was found only after 24 hrs. Why did the Building 7 of WTC collapse when it wasn't hit by any plane? Never in the history of the world was any building fallen due to fire? Once again i request to search for truth and not rely on the US media.
RE:RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
The FBI, illegally, continues to refuse the to release of their agent Robert Wright's 500-page manuscript Fatal Betrayals of the Intelligence Mission, and has even refused to turn the manuscript over to Senator Shelby, vice-chairman of the joint intelligence committee charged with investigating America's 9/11 intelligence failures. And the US government still refuses to declassify 28 secret pages of a recent report on 9/11.
It has been rumoured that Pearl was especially interested in any role played by the US in training or backing the ISI. Daniel Ellsberg, the former US defence department whistleblower who has accompanied Edmonds in court, has stated: "It seems to me quite plausible that Pakistan was quite involved in this ... To say Pakistan is, to me, to say CIA because ... it's hard to say that the ISI knew something that the CIA had no knowledge of." Ahmed's close relations with the CIA would seem to confirm this. For years the CIA used the ISI as a conduit to pump billions of dollars into militant Islamist groups in Afghanistan, both before and after the Soviet invasion of 1979.
W ith CIA backing, the ISI has developed, since the early 1980s, into a parallel structure, a state within a state, with staff and informers estimated by some at 150,000. It wields enormous power over all aspects of government. The case of Ahmed confirms that parts of the ISI directly supported and financed al-Qaida, and it has long been established that the ISI has acted as go-between i
RE:RE:RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:46 PM Permalink
W ith CIA backing, the ISI has developed, since the early 1980s, into a parallel structure, a state within a state, with staff and informers estimated by some at 150,000. It wields enormous power over all aspects of government. The case of Ahmed confirms that parts of the ISI directly supported and financed al-Qaida, and it has long been established that the ISI has acted as go-between in intelligence operations on behalf of the CIA.
Senator Bob Graham, chairman of the Senate select committee on intelligence, has said: "I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted, not just in financing ... by a sovereign foreign government." In that context, Horst Ehmke, former coordinator of the West German secret services, observed: "Terrorists could not have carried out such an operation with four hijacked planes without the support of a secret service."
That might give meaning to the reaction on 9/11 of Richard Clarke, the White House counter-terrorism chief, when he saw the passenger lists later on the day itself: "I was stunned ... that there were al-Qaida operatives on board using names that the FBI knew were al-Qaida." It was just that, as Dale Watson, head of counter-terrorism at the FBI told him, the "CIA forgot to tell us about them".
RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 01:05 PM Permalink
If Md Ata is a scapegoat, that scapegoat was created by the Chief of ISI of Pakistan, who was in Washington DC on the day of the attack.
RE:RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
On October 1, 2001, did the FBI uncover evidence that Lt. General Mahmood Ahmed, the Director of the Pakistani Intelligence Service (the ISI) authorize the wiring of $100,000 to Florida to Mohammed Atta (supposed hijack ringleader of the 911 attack) through Omar Saeed Sheikh (an alleged ISI agent)?
Why did only a single US press outlet, the Wall Street Journal website, mention this connection in the editorial section (James Taranto writing) on October 10, 2001, saying it was an "internet only" story - when in fact it was a major story reported at great length in the main line Indian press?
Does this mean that Al-Queda was used as a tool by members of the American government in the same way that they used the Mujahdeen against the Soviets in Afghanistan?
RE:RE:RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:43 PM Permalink
Sheikh is also the man who, on the instructions of General Mahmoud Ahmed, the then head of Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), wired $100,000 before the 9/11 attacks to Mohammed Atta, the lead hijacker. It is extraordinary that neither Ahmed nor Sheikh have been charged and brought to trial on this count. Why not?
Ahmed, the paymaster for the hijackers, was actually in Washington on 9/11, and had a series of pre-9/11 top-level meetings in the White House, the Pentagon, the national security council, and with George Tenet, then head of the CIA, and Marc Grossman, the under-secretary of state for political affairs. When Ahmed was exposed by the Wall Street Journal as having sent the money to the hijackers, he was forced to "retire" by President Pervez Musharraf. Why hasn't the US demanded that he be questioned and tried in court?
Another person who must know a great deal about what led up to 9/11 is Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, allegedly arrested in Rawalpindi on March 1 2003. A joint Senate-House intelligence select committee inquiry in July 2003 stated: "KSM appears to be one of Bin Laden's most trusted lieutenants and was active in recruiting people to travel outside Afghanistan, including to the US, on behalf of Bin Laden." According to the report, the clear implication was that they would be engaged in planning terrorist-related activities.
The report was sent from the CIA to the FBI, but neither agency apparently recognised the significance of a Bin Laden
RE:RE:RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:44 PM Permalink
A fourth witness is Sibel Edmonds. She is a 33-year-old Turkish-American former FBI translator of intelligence, fluent in Farsi, the language spoken mainly in Iran and Afghanistan, who had top-secret security clearance. She tried to blow the whistle on the cover-up of intelligence that names some of the culprits who orchestrated the 9/11 attacks, but is now under two gagging orders that forbid her from testifying in court or mentioning the names of the people or the countries involved. She has been quoted as saying: "My translations of the 9/11 intercepts included [terrorist] money laundering, detailed and date-specific information ... if they were to do real investigations, we would see several significant high-level criminal prosecutions in this country [the US] ... and believe me, they will do everything to cover this up".
Furthermore, the trial in the US of Zacharias Moussaoui (allegedly the 20th hijacker) is in danger of collapse apparently because of "the CIA's reluctance to allow key lieutenants of Osama bin Laden to testify at the trial". Two of the alleged conspirators have already been set free in Germany for the same reason.
The FBI, illegally, continues to refuse the to release of their agent Robert Wright's 500-page manuscript Fatal Betrayals of the Intelligence Mission, and has even refused to turn the manuscript over to Senator Shelby, vice-chairman of the joint intelligence committee charged with investigating America's 9/11 intelligence failures. And
RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by mahe on Jun 25, 2008 12:45 PM Permalink
Mohammad Atta is a patsy, a scape goat, detailed analysis of the 911 incident has revealed that the two planes hitting the tower were not passenger planes, they did not have windows, they looked US airforce planes, with heavy ammunition attached to its belly.
RE:USA has created Islamic Terror
by Kannan S on Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
1) Jimmy Carter created Muzzahadins in Afghanistan 2) Reagan created Zia Ul Haque and Ben Laden 3) Clinton created Taliban 4) Clinton created Islamic state of Bosnia 5) Pakistan created 9/11 and got rewards from USA of $10 Billion so far plus all free weapons 6) George Bush created another Islamic state of Kosovo. 7) USA pushed up oil prices to make the Arab Skeikhs fantastically rich.
So were the muslims's brain thinking of something else. Dont they have the capability to identify what is wrong and what is right. Mr Annu Malik has earlier said that we Indians are working as a slave for American Clients. Now from these things.. can we say that pakistanis and afghanistan muslims were working like dogs for Americans?
RE:INDIA = TRASH ?
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 11:53 AM Permalink
These garbage is due to you kind of peopl BossMarike. We are more ahead than your arab countries in every sense. Whether it is economic or army power.
Even your master US also consider is no. 2 competent after china.
When Terrorist attacked US on 9/11 , one of my Hindu colleagues was jump with joy he told me that US will not leave Pakistan & Afghanistan now. I was told him that US will never attack Pakistan, then he said to me because I am Muslim I am support Muslims countries. When I ask now to him what about US attack to Pakistan, He agreed that I was correct. US will act only where ever Jews have interest. Many Hindus in India they think that US will support India against Pakistan, answer is US will never support India against Pakistan. Yes US want to use India against China. May be many Hindus will not support my view but this is true.
RE:Hindus thinking
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 11:56 AM Permalink
USA will not support India against China either. China holds more than $500 Billion US Treasury Bonds, which if China sell to the world, the economy of USA will collapse. All American companies have their manufacturing bases in China. Those who are thinking USA will defend India against China are the worse kind of stupid.
RE:Hindus thinking
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 11:58 AM Permalink
You are correct we hindu are not dependant on US aid on any case. We are strong enough to protect our interest. US can go 2 hell same is your arab masters.
Also what is your point in above post i didn't get ??
RE:Hindus thinking
by Annu Malik on Jun 25, 2008 12:00 PM Permalink
MTFKR dotn dare say a word against arabs or I will put a big bamboo down your azzz got it peanutbrain ?
RE:Hindus thinking
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 12:05 PM Permalink
Abe MCBC ,I know your asssh is floating on the name of arab but we hindu dont believe in this culture. I will put bamboo in your azzz and your arab masters axzzz bossMariK.
RE:Hindus thinking
by Annu Malik on Jun 25, 2008 12:08 PM Permalink
ch000tiyon, bench000don , bskdikey, baihen keyy lauddddon ARAB key baarey main nahi bolney ka, kya ? samjha ???
RE:Hindus thinking
by Annu Malik on Jun 25, 2008 12:16 PM Permalink
i agree to disagree, bloody MFKR learn some english first, I think rediff is an english website.
I bet you are a bloody hindi medium educated MORON
RE:Hindus thinking
by nash on Jun 25, 2008 12:13 PM Permalink
abe phir se bola cactus daal dunga tere mein aur tere un arab ke andar loha garam karke ulta daal dunga nikal bhi nahi payenge. ha...haa.. i am too good
RE:Hindus thinking
by Manoj M on Jun 25, 2008 12:02 PM Permalink
What is wrong to get used as long as it benefits you? Let US use us against China like they used Pakistan against Soviet Union. Pakistan is still surviving on those doles. They have understood their core competence is in fields like terrorism & double-speak. They are still surviving doing that. In our case, US is using India economically as a counter to China. They want to build factories & software shops here to counter the influence of China, which is a good thing for us.
RE:Hindus thinking
by Dipak Bose on Jun 25, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
USA will not support India against China either. China holds more than $500 Billion US Treasury Bonds, which if China sell to the world, the economy of USA will collapse. All American companies have their manufacturing bases in China. Those who are thinking USA will defend India against China are the worse kind of stupid.
RE:RE:Hindus thinking
by nash on Jun 25, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
abe ek aur pakhani tere andar to kathal dalunga zindagi beet jayegi nikal bhi nahi payega.
When Terrorist attacked US on 9/11 , one of my Hindu colleagues was jump with joy he told me that US will not leave Pakistan & Afghanistan now. I was told him that US will never attack Pakistan, then he said to me because I am Muslim I am support Muslims countries. When I ask now to him what about US attack to Pakistan, He agreed that I was correct. US will act only where ever Jews have interest. Many Hindus in India they think that US will support India against Pakistan, answer is US will never support India against Pakistan. Yes US want to use India against China. May be many Hindus will not support my view but this is true.
American "economic" aid is clandestinely passed on to the Taliban by the Pak authorities. Saudi Arabia is also doing the smae thing. Americans were shocked to find 10000 regular Pak troops in uniform, fighting the American forces in Afghanistan, shoulder to shoulder with Talibans.But US being a shameless country, stiil lives in fools' paradise with a false notion that Pak is "sincere" in "fighting" extremism. They also know that Osama Bin Laden is a State guest of Pakistan, enjoying its hospitality,and is comfortably living in a secret place on the Pak-Afghan boeder, but indisde Pak territory. But the Pak lobby in US always prevails uopn the US admn that their country stands for "fighting" terorism.
RE:US funds for Pak
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 11:33 AM Permalink
Dear US is not fool as you feel. They have other interests from pak also. They want to settle there feet in south asia and for them pak is totally safe place. They are in totally clutch of US. Their government is dancing on US tune only.
RE:US funds for Pak
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 11:45 AM Permalink
C you and C your father arab, you are SLAVE of arab and telling them father but they are not giving you citizenship to enter in their holy land. You always depends on your arab fathers oil money and gives your life and everything to their service. May almighty give you some salvation to stand on own feet. Funny thing is you teach to serve arab in your educational sillabus only. This is very funny.
We hindu are more strong than arab and near to you. Serve for us and you will get so many thing.
RE:US funds for Pak
by Guest on Jun 25, 2008 11:44 AM Permalink
Mr Inventor of F.. I understand ur frustration... And everybody in this world knows how far INDIA and pakistan have progressed. Cool buddy...Take a chill pill..
RE:RE:US funds for Pak
by nash on Jun 25, 2008 11:47 AM Permalink
abe pakhani jaake pakhana saanf kar tumhare liye bus ye hi job bachi hai duniya mein calculation tere bus ki baat nahi
RE:US funds for Pak
by Guest on Jun 25, 2008 11:50 AM Permalink
Mr Inventeor of F..U need to understand that i am just saying we are atleast leading better life than u...
The US has already grounded itself in Iraq and now plans to attach Iran are complete.They are waiting for an incident to trigger the attack. Then next is Syria and Lebanon. Finally to get control of all the oil rich countries in Asia. The Afghanistan already in control of Asia and Pakistan is already bought by the US. India is a country worried about economic growth, the country is now heavily dependent on the US for driving its economy as the growth across all sectors is due to US outsourcing to India. Moreover India has never been a big challenge to tackle. Ultimately US will control the whole of west Asia, PAK, Afgan and India (through economic ways) and stand at the doorstep of their biggest threat, China. This is all about global supremacy.
usa is playing a double game... its major competitors are now china and india.. to control growth of china, its openly supporting india and to control india its indirectly funding pakistan to launch the proxy war against india.. wht u think are the americans such a fool that they just give money and forget it. they r damn professionals and everything that they do have a ulterior motto.. here american is equally to blame...
RE:missing funds
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 11:28 AM Permalink
We are doing hard work and earn money but you are selling everything to get money from white US.
RE:missing funds
by abcl on Jun 25, 2008 11:35 AM Permalink
Dont see in past, think about present situation. You will get shoke to see that how much gora is serving for indian company. Economically today we conquer the world. Last but least we are not begging again any one.
RE:missing funds
by Annu Malik on Jun 25, 2008 11:37 AM Permalink
wehre the F do you see gora serving indian company ???? there are 3 million brown trash serving white trash in USA, how many americans in India ???? Millions of gora americans on the other hand come to study in pakistan to study islam, it is a global hub .
RE:missing funds
by raj r on Jun 25, 2008 11:29 AM Permalink
Exactly. Pakistan, Bengladesh are just channels for United states and their target is upcoming growing economy of India. Terrorist groups are heavily funded by USA.
RE:missing funds
by chandra singh on Jun 25, 2008 11:49 AM Permalink
Annu Malik, see you have borrowed an Indian name also. So who is the beggar. More so we take loans and we pay it. It is done by most of the countries. But you Pakis take grants which is begging. Further, come to Indian companies and you will find number of Goras working here. Then you said that Americans are coming to Pak to study about ISLAM. They just hate Islam and those who come they are muslims only not christians.
